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Northern Davincia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
So if we regulate the little guy suffers and if we don’t the big companies will treat them nice?

The point is that we shouldn't moralize economics excessively. The big companies can survive regulations that the small business cannot.

No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:The point is that we shouldn't moralize economics excessively. The big companies can survive regulations that the small business cannot.

No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

He obviously assumes he will be an owner of such a company.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:The point is that we shouldn't moralize economics excessively. The big companies can survive regulations that the small business cannot.

No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

If the Invisible Hand moves in that direction, so be it. I will not interfere.

Gormwood wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

He obviously assumes he will be an owner of such a company.

Goodness, I don't have the personality to run a business. That's an extrovert's job, not mine.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:I see nothing wrong with this.

That’s fine. We can establish departure taxes.

I will root for businesses to get creative in how they dodge it.

Northern Davincia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

If the Invisible Hand moves in that direction, so be it. I will not interfere.

Longing to live in Dickensian England or the Gilded Age I see.

Gormwood wrote:He obviously assumes he will be an owner of such a company.

Goodness, I don't have the personality to run a business. That's an extrovert's job, not mine.

Or a majority shareholder, some rationale for being pro laissez-faire with no obvious benefit for you doing so.

The Black Forrest wrote:That’s fine. We can establish departure taxes.

I will root for businesses to get creative in how they dodge it.

Rooting for Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud. Nice.

Northern Davincia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
No regulations are not the answer. You say you want to turn it over to the companies and they will eat the little guys quick.

If the Invisible Hand moves in that direction, so be it. I will not interfere.

Gormwood wrote:He obviously assumes he will be an owner of such a company.

Goodness, I don't have the personality to run a business. That's an extrovert's job, not mine.

The Black Forrest wrote:
That’s fine. We can establish departure taxes.

I will root for businesses to get creative in how they dodge it.

That’s ok. People who think like you are small in number. Your dream unfortunately will never happen.

Gormwood wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:If the Invisible Hand moves in that direction, so be it. I will not interfere.

Longing to live in Dickensian England or the Gilded Age I see.

Goodness, I don't have the personality to run a business. That's an extrovert's job, not mine.

Or a majority shareholder, some rationale for being pro laissez-faire with no obvious benefit for you doing so.

I will root for businesses to get creative in how they dodge it.

Rooting for Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud. Nice.

People have a very wrong perception of the Gilded Age. I miss the old Titans of Industry. As for tax evasion/fraud, there is nothing wrong with it from a libertarian viewpoint.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:If the Invisible Hand moves in that direction, so be it. I will not interfere.

Goodness, I don't have the personality to run a business. That's an extrovert's job, not mine.

I will root for businesses to get creative in how they dodge it.

That’s ok. People who think like you are small in number. Your dream unfortunately will never happen.

You say this with such certainty. I do not have to see my dream in my lifetime.

Northern Davincia wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Longing to live in Dickensian England or the Gilded Age I see.


Or a majority shareholder, some rationale for being pro laissez-faire with no obvious benefit for you doing so.


Rooting for Tax Evasion and Tax Fraud. Nice.

People have a very wrong perception of the Gilded Age. I miss the old Titans of Industry. As for tax evasion/fraud, there is nothing wrong with it from a libertarian viewpoint.

The Black Forrest wrote:
That’s ok. People who think like you are small in number. Your dream unfortunately will never happen.

You say this with such certainty. I do not have to see my dream in my lifetime.

Ok. You will never see your dream of a completely free market.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:People have a very wrong perception of the Gilded Age. I miss the old Titans of Industry. As for tax evasion/fraud, there is nothing wrong with it from a libertarian viewpoint.

You say this with such certainty. I do not have to see my dream in my lifetime.

Ok. You will never see your dream of a completely free market.

And? Your argument does not dissuade communists in the present, and it did not sway early liberals or abolitionists.
Saying "you won't get what you want" changes absolutely nothing.

Northern Davincia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ok. You will never see your dream of a completely free market.

And? Your argument does not dissuade communists in the present, and it did not sway early liberals or abolitionists.
Saying "you won't get what you want" changes absolutely nothing.

*shrugs* I am not the one trying to interject free market into every thread.

Besides. Unless you can tie this back to Trump; it’s kind of a tangent.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:People have a very wrong perception of the Gilded Age. I miss the old Titans of Industry. As for tax evasion/fraud, there is nothing wrong with it from a libertarian viewpoint.

You say this with such certainty. I do not have to see my dream in my lifetime.

Ok. You will never see your dream of a completely free market.

The only thing worse than people rooting for a disproportionate system that benefits them directly are people who do not benefit from a disproportionate system at all but still root for it anyways.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:And? Your argument does not dissuade communists in the present, and it did not sway early liberals or abolitionists.
Saying "you won't get what you want" changes absolutely nothing.

*shrugs* I am not the one trying to interject free market into every thread.

Besides. Unless you can tie this back to Trump; it’s kind of a tangent.

I strongly disagree with individuals who posit either Reagan or Trump as free-market icons when clearly they aren't.

Gormwood wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ok. You will never see your dream of a completely free market.

The only thing worse than people rooting for a disproportionate system that benefits them directly are people who do not benefit from a disproportionate system at all but still root for it anyways.

Somehow rich people still aren't libertarians. I guess it doesn't benefit them after all.

I for one am totally for regularly reminding the noveau riches of their subordination to the nation.

Northern Davincia wrote:

Gormwood wrote:The only thing worse than people rooting for a disproportionate system that benefits them directly are people who do not benefit from a disproportionate system at all but still root for it anyways.

Somehow rich people still aren't libertarians. I guess it doesn't benefit them after all.

You must be one of those Temporarily Embarassed Millionaires I keep hearing about.

Gormwood wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:Somehow rich people still aren't libertarians. I guess it doesn't benefit them after all.

You must be one of those Temporarily Embarassed Millionaires I keep hearing about.

I'm sure you'll come up with an original jab someday.

Northern Davincia wrote:

Gormwood wrote:You must be one of those Temporarily Embarassed Millionaires I keep hearing about.

I'm sure you'll come up with an original jab someday.

You pushing for laissez-faire without being wealthy just gives off a strong Kanye vibe.

Gormwood wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:I'm sure you'll come up with an original jab someday.

You pushing for laissez-faire without being wealthy just gives off a strong Kanye vibe.

I have reason to admire Kanye, considering he is a self-made millionaire. I recognize that I do not need to be on top in order to push for what I think is the right way of doing things.
Most people who believe in presidential democracy will never be president. Isn't that amusing?

So it turns out we don't even need to saw holes in the Trump Wall. The weather does a pretty good job of destroying it on its own. (CW: Autoplaying video)

Vassenor wrote:So it turns out we don't even need to saw holes in the Trump Wall. The weather does a pretty good job of destroying it on its own. (CW: Autoplaying video)

Good, it was a fucking waste of tax payer dollars anyhow.

Vassenor wrote:So it turns out we don't even need to saw holes in the Trump Wall. The weather does a pretty good job of destroying it on its own. (CW: Autoplaying video)

"That nasty, nasty woman Mother Nature wants this country swarmed by millions and millions of illegals!" - Donald Trump

Maybe next time he can build an actual wall. Make it proper out of stone, Cover it in awesome statues, maybe some giant cannons for show. And big gates that leads to a tunnel covered with murals deifying the founding fathers leading into a courtyard with a McDonalds, a Starbucks, and a Gun store. With a small platform in the center where there are regularly scheduled debates to entertain/educate new arrivals on US issues.

That should be the standard entryway to America.

The Emerald Legion wrote:Maybe next time he can build an actual wall. Make it proper out of stone, Cover it in awesome statues, maybe some giant cannons for show. And big gates that leads to a tunnel covered with murals deifying the founding fathers leading into a courtyard with a McDonalds, a Starbucks, and a Gun store. With a small platform in the center where there are regularly scheduled debates to entertain/educate new arrivals on US issues.

That should be the standard entryway to America.

Was the biggest objection to the wall not.that 90 percent of the illegal.immigrants does not enter the USA by crossing the border on land ?

So who would see the awesome entrance ?

The Alma Mater wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:Maybe next time he can build an actual wall. Make it proper out of stone, Cover it in awesome statues, maybe some giant cannons for show. And big gates that leads to a tunnel covered with murals deifying the founding fathers leading into a courtyard with a McDonalds, a Starbucks, and a Gun store. With a small platform in the center where there are regularly scheduled debates to entertain/educate new arrivals on US issues.

That should be the standard entryway to America.

Was the biggest objection to the wall not.that 90 percent of the illegal.immigrants does not enter the USA by crossing the border on land ?

So who would see the awesome entrance ?

Tourists from the Patriot Movement militias patrolling the borders for Dem Illeeguls.

The Alma Mater wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:Maybe next time he can build an actual wall. Make it proper out of stone, Cover it in awesome statues, maybe some giant cannons for show. And big gates that leads to a tunnel covered with murals deifying the founding fathers leading into a courtyard with a McDonalds, a Starbucks, and a Gun store. With a small platform in the center where there are regularly scheduled debates to entertain/educate new arrivals on US issues.

That should be the standard entryway to America.

Was the biggest objection to the wall not.that 90 percent of the illegal.immigrants does not enter the USA by crossing the border on land ?

So who would see the awesome entrance ?

That was an objection yes. It was an incorrect Objection.

Also, everyone. We'd build more around Airports so that foreigners get the full experience.

It should be like a country sized Amusement Park Entrance.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Was the biggest objection to the wall not.that 90 percent of the illegal.immigrants does not enter the USA by crossing the border on land ?

So who would see the awesome entrance ?

That was an objection yes. It was an incorrect Objection.

Also, everyone. We'd build more around Airports so that foreigners get the full experience.

It should be like a country sized Amusement Park Entrance.

We should put a 3-meter concrete dome around the United States so we can finally be free of the blight of people being born in the Wrong Place^TM

EDIT: On a serious note, incorrect objection?

Valrifell wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
That was an objection yes. It was an incorrect Objection.

Also, everyone. We'd build more around Airports so that foreigners get the full experience.

It should be like a country sized Amusement Park Entrance.

We should put a 3-meter concrete dome around the United States so we can finally be free of the blight of people being born in the Wrong Place^TM

But if we did that, noone would ever see our gaudy tourist trap of a wall.