MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Valrifell]

Trump is pretty much just the Reagan of the 21st century tho-

I am not exactly familiar with Reagan but I am pretty sure he would find that very insulting.

Let's compare:

	Trump	Reagan
Little Political Experience Upon Taking Office	X	X
Elected in a wave of right-populism	X	X
Succeeded an incumbent loved by liberals, "ok" to others	X	X
"Make America Great"	X	X
Shitty & StupidTM foreign policy	X	X
Known as a media presence before politics	X	X
Traitors to the country	X	X
Decent hair		X
Orange	X
Popular vote		X
"What the fuck were we thinking?!"	X	X
Recession and bad economics	X	X
Racist but keeps the quiet parts quiet		X
Racist but less quiet	X
Would like you to think they're StrongmenTM	X	X

Yep. Pretty much the same.

EDIT: Also making a table on this site is gross and nobody should ever do it.

[Rojava Free State]

Good. I dont think Ronald Reagan was Trump but he was a shitty enough president to deserve that insult.

Reagan wasn't a self-pitying crybaby who aired his grievances like every day was Festivus. But he died of Alzheimer's and so did Fred Trump Sr. Which just means it'll be a mess in the future.

Self pitying he was not. But he was an anti poor crusader and he armed terroristic jihadi nuts in Afghanistan. Also he was one of the architects of the war on drugs. As I said, not good.

[Gormwood]

Reagan wasn't a self-pitying crybaby who aired his grievances like every day was Festivus. But he died of Alzheimer's and so did Fred Trump Sr. Which just means it'll be a mess in the future.

Self pitying he was not. But he was an anti poor crusader and he armed terroristic jihadi nuts in Afghanistan. Also he was one of the architects of the war on drugs. As I said, not good.

Is it just me, or do some of the biggest assholes in history that make it to old age tend to have their brains eaten by Alzheimer's?

[Farnhamia]

Self pitying he was not. But he was an anti poor crusader and he armed terroristic jihadi nuts in Afghanistan. Also he was one of the architects of the war on drugs. As I said, not good.

Is it just me, or do some of the biggest assholes in history that make it to old age tend to have their brains eaten by Alzheimer's?

I think it's a function of age and not assholery.

Then again, Olivia de Havilland, who just died at 104, was still sharp as a tack.

[Rojava Free State]

Self pitying he was not. But he was an anti poor crusader and he armed terroristic jihadi nuts in Afghanistan. Also he was one of the architects of the war on drugs. As I said, not good.

Is it just me, or do some of the biggest assholes in history that make it to old age tend to have their brains eaten by Alzheimer's?

I guess all that hate causes the body to decay faster.

[Gormwood]

Is it just me, or do some of the biggest assholes in history that make it to old age tend to have their brains eaten by Alzheimer's?

I think it's a function of age and not assholery.

Then again, Olivia de Havilland, who just died at 104, was still sharp as a tack.

Was she a major asshole though?

[Rojava Free State]

Speaking of alzheimers, it would be hella ironic if Trump came down with it during the election, considering it's been his main plan of attack against Biden.

[Gormwood]

Speaking of alzheimers, it would be hella ironic if Trump came down with it during the election, considering it's been his main plan of attack against Biden.

He has a gift for projecting years into the future. And it runs in his family. Two strikes there.

[Farnhamia]

I think it's a function of age and not assholery.

Then again, Olivia de Havilland, who just died at 104, was still sharp as a tack.

Was she a major asshole though?

Jack Warner probably thought she was a fucking bitch.

[Northern Davincia]

I am not exactly familiar with Reagan but I am pretty sure he would find that very insulting.

Let's compare:

	Trump	Reagan
Little Political Experience Upon Taking Office	X	X
Elected in a wave of right-populism	X	X
Succeeded an incumbent loved by liberals, "ok" to others	X	X
"Make America Great"	X	X
Shitty & StupidTM foreign policy	X	X
Known as a media presence before politics	X	X
Traitors to the country	X	X
Decent hair		X
Orange	X
Popular vote		X
"What the fuck were we thinking?!"	X	X
Recession and bad economics	X	X
Racist but keeps the quiet parts quiet		X
Racist but less quiet	X
Would like you to think they're StrongmenTM	X	X

Yep. Pretty much the same.

EDIT: Also making a table on this site is gross and nobody should ever do it.

Not exactly an accurate comparison but I suppose revisionism has its uses.

[Valrifell]

Let's compare:

	Trump	Reagan
Little Political Experience Upon Taking Office	X	X
Elected in a wave of right-populism	X	X
Succeeded an incumbent loved by liberals, "ok" to others	X	X
"Make America Great"	X	X
Shitty & StupidTM foreign policy	X	X
Known as a media presence before politics	X	X
Traitors to the country	X	X
Decent hair		X
Orange	X
Popular vote		X
"What the fuck were we thinking?!"	X	X
Recession and bad economics	X	X
Racist but keeps the quiet parts quiet		X
Racist but less quiet	X
Would like you to think they're StrongmenTM	X	X

Yep. Pretty much the same.

EDIT: Also making a table on this site is gross and nobody should ever do it.

Not exactly an accurate comparison but I suppose revisionism has its uses.

It makes efforts to undo Reagan's policy more mainstream and popular if I compare him to current very unpopular President Trump. Together, we can reverse the image of Saint Reagan and cast him out of the canon of Good Presidents.

[Cisairse]

Let's compare:

	Trump	Reagan
Little Political Experience Upon Taking Office	X	X
Elected in a wave of right-populism	X	X
Succeeded an incumbent loved by liberals, "ok" to others	X	X
"Make America Great"	X	X
Shitty & StupidTM foreign policy	X	X
Known as a media presence before politics	X	X
Traitors to the country	X	X
Decent hair		X
Orange	X
Popular vote		X
"What the fuck were we thinking?!"	X	X
Recession and bad economics	X	X
Racist but keeps the quiet parts quiet		X
Racist but less quiet	X
Would like you to think they're StrongmenTM	X	X

Yep. Pretty much the same.

EDIT: Also making a table on this site is gross and nobody should ever do it.

Not exactly an accurate comparison but I suppose revisionism has its uses.

It's pretty accurate, actually.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not exactly an accurate comparison but I suppose revisionism has its uses.

It makes efforts to undo Reagan's policy more mainstream and popular if I compare him to current very unpopular President Trump. Together, we can reverse the image of Saint Reagan and cast him out of the canon of Good Presidents.

I mean. He's not that unpopular. To be honest, most of the people who don't like him know literally nothing about him.

[Northern Davincia]

Not exactly an accurate comparison but I suppose revisionism has its uses.

It's pretty accurate, actually.

Only if one assumed the worst interpretation of Reagan by liberals were true. It's almost as absurd as holding Reagan to be sinless.

[Cisairse]

It's pretty accurate, actually.

Only if one assumed the worst interpretation of Reagan by liberals were true. It's almost as absurd as holding Reagan to be sinless.

It's pretty objective that Reagan destroyed the economy and sacrificed a generation of working-class Americans while engaging in rampant corruption and committing war crimes

[Northern Davincia]

Only if one assumed the worst interpretation of Reagan by liberals were true. It's almost as absurd as holding Reagan to be sinless.

It's pretty objective that Reagan destroyed the economy and sacrificed a generation of working-class Americans while engaging in rampant corruption and committing war crimes

Reagan did not destroy the economy. As for corruption, I can't really complain about Iran-Contra.
War crimes are a standard feature of the modern imperial presidency.

[Rojava Free State]

It makes efforts to undo Reagan's policy more mainstream and popular if I compare him to current very unpopular President Trump. Together, we can reverse the image of Saint Reagan and cast him out of the canon of Good Presidents.

I mean. He's not that unpopular. To be honest, most of the people who don't like him know literally nothing about him.

Don't know much about him? I feel like the people who like him are the ones who don't know him.

[Rojava Free State]

It's pretty objective that Reagan destroyed the economy and sacrificed a generation of working-class Americans while engaging in rampant corruption and committing war crimes

Reagan did not destroy the economy. As for corruption, I can't really complain about Iran-Contra.
War crimes are a standard feature of the modern imperial presidency.

That just means he wasn't alone in being shitty.

[Valrifell]

It makes efforts to undo Reagan's policy more mainstream and popular if I compare him to current very unpopular President Trump. Together, we can reverse the image of Saint Reagan and cast him out of the canon of Good Presidents.

I mean. He's not that unpopular.

I know. Did you read the post you resonded to? I take issue with the undue praise Reagan receives, but for that to be true he would have to be praised a lot. IE be popular.

be honest, most of the people who don't like him know literally nothing about him.

If people knew nothing they'd adopt a neutral "idgaf" attitude, which is what I observe in most people. Nobody is really talking about the sins of Reagan. Anyone who is knows at least quite a bit more than "nothing". But, I digress.

[Cisairse]

Reagan did not destroy the economy.

Uh, have you been asleep since 1983?

[The Black Forrest]

It makes efforts to undo Reagan's policy more mainstream and popular if I compare him to current very unpopular President Trump. Together, we can reverse the image of Saint Reagan and cast him out of the canon of Good Presidents.

I mean. He's not that unpopular. To be honest, most of the people who don't like him know literally nothing about him.

Nice sweeping generalization. Seriously; how could anybody who dealt with AIDs or downsized would think ill of him.

Anyway. If Reagan was around today; the trumpests would turn on him the moment he said anything about Trump violating his 11th commandment.

[Northern Davincia]

Reagan did not destroy the economy.

Uh, have you been asleep since 1983?

I wish, but I find the notion that Reagan destroyed the economy to be absurd. It would require us to ignore Congress and the previous administration. The recession at the start of his presidency can be directly attributed to the stagflation period. I think Reagan managed it fairly well, as the economy was in decent shape when he left office.

In other news, presidents are unfairly blamed for the economy far too often.

[Gravlen]

But you're unable to articulate why. Got it.

I can - the combination of the 1st and 14th amendment makes it extremely suspicious for churches to be under greater restrictions than casinos, bowling alleys, gyms, etc.

I'm not saying there weren't legitimate arguments on the other side, but I was bored and tried to get more of an answer than "I support Trump, let's respect all opinions, Republicans I've talked to agree with me" on the question of why he wanted Roberts to join the "Republican" justices.

[Cisairse]

Uh, have you been asleep since 1983?

I wish, but I find the notion that Reagan destroyed the economy to be absurd. It would require us to ignore Congress and the previous administration. The recession at the start of his presidency can be directly attributed to the stagflation period. I think Reagan managed it fairly well, as the economy was in decent shape when he left office.

In other news, presidents are unfairly blamed for the economy far too often.

Reaganomics, a policy that literally is named after Ronald Reagan, is what caused the stock market crash of '87 as well as being the reason why wages have remained flat since the 1980s. It's also a big part of the '08 economic meltdown.

[Fahran]

Reagan is still remembered very fondly by a lot of people, largely because he was probably one of our last great orators and presided over a period when we remained dominant and had a clear foreign policy aim. He was also a good deal more moderate than a lot of folks make him out to be and won reelection in one of the largest landslides in history in terms of the Electoral College vote. And, in spite of his flaws, he had the luxury of succeeding the inept Carter and preceding the unpopular Bush Sr.