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Postby Picairn » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:05 am

Aclion wrote:literally in your source it says fauci opposed travel bans, and their source is fauci :eyebrow:

Dude, seriously? Re-read the source: By January 30, all of the top public health officials (which definitely includes Fauci) supported a travel ban. Meanwhile Peter Navarro claimed that Fauci was still against travel bans by "late January". First paragraph and it's already a contradiction.

Edit: The source also says Fauci and others convinced Trump first, who was initially skeptical of the idea. If Fauci was against travel bans in the first place, why did he convinced Trump to do so by January 30?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:20 am

Gravlen wrote:So what has Dan Scavino Jr., White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications and Director of Social Media, posted today I wonder...

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Oh. Oh no.

Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:So what has Dan Scavino Jr., White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications and Director of Social Media, posted today I wonder...

(Image)

Oh. Oh no.

Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?

That Trump-wing spook story that Bill Gates wants to implant microchips inside everyone through vaccinations.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 am

Ifreann wrote:Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?

Must be one of those conspiracy theories that Fauci is paid by Bill Gates through the Gates Foundation, in a greater scheme to inject Americans with microchip-installed vaccine, or so I've heard. The fact that 28% of American adults even believe in this is unsettling. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ories.html
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:48 am

Picairn wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?

Must be one of those conspiracy theories that Fauci is paid by Bill Gates through the Gates Foundation, in a greater scheme to inject Americans with microchip-installed vaccine, or so I've heard. The fact that 28% of American adults even believed in this is unsettling. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ories.html

If only someone would listen to little cartoon Rand Paul :(
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:09 am

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Ifreann wrote:Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?

Must be one of those conspiracy theories that Fauci is paid by Bill Gates through the Gates Foundation, in a greater scheme to inject Americans with microchip-installed vaccine, or so I've heard. The fact that 28% of American adults even believe in this is unsettling. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ories.html


This is why we're the backwater of the western world these days. Smh.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:12 am

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Ifreann wrote:Ben Garrison cartoons are always wild. Like, "Gates Foundation"? What?

Must be one of those conspiracy theories that Fauci is paid by Bill Gates through the Gates Foundation, in a greater scheme to inject Americans with microchip-installed vaccine, or so I've heard. The fact that 28% of American adults even believe in this is unsettling. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ories.html

Doesn't a similar number of supposed adults in the States believe earnestly that the world was created in 4004 BCE? <.>
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Postby No State Here » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:21 am

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Fahran wrote:I'm increasingly leaning towards accelerationism on my less optimistic days. :^)


My optimism is a strange thing. I was thinking about it earlier when I was thinking of this girl who I'm attracted to. I'm someone who often has a pessimistic view of things but once in a while I feel a spark of hope. Sometimes whatever I'm hoping for comes true but even when it doesn't, I guess it's better to dream sometimes than live 100% of your life in suffering and anguish.

I like to think that things such as climate change and the current vicious political scene in America can and will be solved. Idk if that's how it will go but it's better to lie to yourself than to lose hope. Gotta keep that optimism going so you can survive these times.

If only we elected Ron Paul… :p
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:23 am

No State Here wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
My optimism is a strange thing. I was thinking about it earlier when I was thinking of this girl who I'm attracted to. I'm someone who often has a pessimistic view of things but once in a while I feel a spark of hope. Sometimes whatever I'm hoping for comes true but even when it doesn't, I guess it's better to dream sometimes than live 100% of your life in suffering and anguish.

I like to think that things such as climate change and the current vicious political scene in America can and will be solved. Idk if that's how it will go but it's better to lie to yourself than to lose hope. Gotta keep that optimism going so you can survive these times.

If only we elected Ron Paul… :p


If we elected Jeb Bush, we would be sending rockets to the Alpha Centauri system by now.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:25 am

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No State Here wrote:If only we elected Ron Paul… :p


If we elected Jeb Bush, we would be sending rockets to the Alpha Centauri system by now.

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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:31 am

No State Here wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
My optimism is a strange thing. I was thinking about it earlier when I was thinking of this girl who I'm attracted to. I'm someone who often has a pessimistic view of things but once in a while I feel a spark of hope. Sometimes whatever I'm hoping for comes true but even when it doesn't, I guess it's better to dream sometimes than live 100% of your life in suffering and anguish.

I like to think that things such as climate change and the current vicious political scene in America can and will be solved. Idk if that's how it will go but it's better to lie to yourself than to lose hope. Gotta keep that optimism going so you can survive these times.

If only we elected Ron Paul… :p

Does he agree with Rand Paul's position of not listening to experts?
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:34 am

Image

I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:45 am

Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

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but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.


I looked her site over. It’s rather basic and I am sure she got a ton of money to set that up.

She will get punished for violating the product endorsement rules........never.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:56 am

The White House is telling hospitals to bypass the CDC on COVID-19 data reporting.

They want them to send data to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) instead. In particular, they don't want hospitals reporting to the CDC's National Healthcare Safety Network, which the agency describes as the nation’s most widely used health care-associated infection tracking system. The move comes as Trump and his officials have been sidelining the CDC, attacking Fauci, and the fact COVID-19 is getting worst.

Talk about sidelining literally the most important agency that handles such issues. I smell a Bolsonaro type move here.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:14 am

Gravlen wrote:Trump thinks it is bad if the media can accurately tell the public how many people are infected.

Trump said that while coronavirus testing “is a good thing,” it has also served as “fodder for the fake news to report cases.” He said that if the U.S. didn’t test people for Covid-19, then you wouldn’t have “all the headlines” because the nation has one of the lowest mortality rate.

“When I turn on the news I see cases, cases, cases,” Trump said.

Geesh, I study media for a living and even I'm not as unhealthily obsessed with optics and media as he is.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:15 am

Zurkerx wrote:The White House is telling hospitals to bypass the CDC on COVID-19 data reporting.

They want them to send data to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) instead. In particular, they don't want hospitals reporting to the CDC's National Healthcare Safety Network, which the agency describes as the nation’s most widely used health care-associated infection tracking system. The move comes as Trump and his officials have been sidelining the CDC, attacking Fauci, and the fact COVID-19 is getting worst.

Talk about sidelining literally the most important agency that handles such issues. I smell a Bolsonaro type move here.

Adding "America lied, people died" to my sig in a few weeks once these moves keep making everything worse.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 am

Liriena wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Trump thinks it is bad if the media can accurately tell the public how many people are infected.

Trump said that while coronavirus testing “is a good thing,” it has also served as “fodder for the fake news to report cases.” He said that if the U.S. didn’t test people for Covid-19, then you wouldn’t have “all the headlines” because the nation has one of the lowest mortality rate.

“When I turn on the news I see cases, cases, cases,” Trump said.

Geesh, I study media for a living and even I'm not as unhealthily obsessed with optics and media as he is.

Because of the Leftists Democrats Politics against him. Any President would under the Political circumstances. I would if I were President or leader of any nation, I think you would and we all would if we were President or leader of any nation under the political circumstances.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:49 am

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Liriena wrote:Geesh, I study media for a living and even I'm not as unhealthily obsessed with optics and media as he is.

Because of the Leftists Democrats Politics against him. Any President would under the Political circumstances. I would if I were President or leader of any nation, I think you would and we all would if we were President or leader of any nation under the political circumstances.


Well maybe he should be fixing the problems so they have nothing to complain about.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:54 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:Because of the Leftists Democrats Politics against him. Any President would under the Political circumstances. I would if I were President or leader of any nation, I think you would and we all would if we were President or leader of any nation under the political circumstances.


Well maybe he should be fixing the problems so they have nothing to complain about.

What do you want him to do, the USA has done what all nations of the world have done?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:56 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Well maybe he should be fixing the problems so they have nothing to complain about.

What do you want him to do, the USA has done what all nations of the world have done?


I don't see other nations trying to discourage masks. Or stripping back their own ability to respond to major outbreaks. Or insist that the outbreak isn't real. Or prevent hospitals from sending outbreak data to the body meant to coordinate responses.
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No State Here wrote:If only we elected Ron Paul… :p


If we elected Jeb Bush, we would be sending rockets to the Alpha Centauri system by now.

I unironically think the world would be infinitely better had Ron Paul been elected
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:What do you want him to do, the USA has done what all nations of the world have done?


I don't see other nations trying to discourage masks. Or stripping back their own ability to respond to major outbreaks. Or insist that the outbreak isn't real. Or prevent hospitals from sending outbreak data to the body meant to coordinate responses.

Trump held news conferences you and I saw and we all saw urging people to wear the masks and social distance. Businesses by government laws and their own rules and regulations are requiring workers and customers to wear masks and social distance, hospitals and doctors are dealing with the virus crisis, they cant do more. But Trump gets blamed for all of it by the leftist Democrats for political reasons against him, not because they care.
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Rojava Free State wrote:
If we elected Jeb Bush, we would be sending rockets to the Alpha Centauri system by now.

I unironically think the world would be infinitely better had Ron Paul been elected

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:14 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I don't see other nations trying to discourage masks. Or stripping back their own ability to respond to major outbreaks. Or insist that the outbreak isn't real. Or prevent hospitals from sending outbreak data to the body meant to coordinate responses.

Trump held news conferences you and I saw and we all saw urging people to wear the masks and social distance. Businesses by government laws and their own rules and regulations are requiring workers and customers to wear masks and social distance, hospitals and doctors are dealing with the virus crisis, they cant do more. But Trump gets blamed for all of it by the leftist Democrats for political reasons against him, not because they care.


Meanwhile, in reality...
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:15 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Trump held news conferences you and I saw and we all saw urging people to wear the masks and social distance. Businesses by government laws and their own rules and regulations are requiring workers and customers to wear masks and social distance, hospitals and doctors are dealing with the virus crisis, they cant do more. But Trump gets blamed for all of it by the leftist Democrats for political reasons against him, not because they care.


Meanwhile, in reality...

Meanwhile, I reality my post is a Fact.
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