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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:50 am

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Not really no. Right now Trump is likely to win.

are you sure about that buddy

cuz every poll, prediction, model, and even random people putting their money on the line 100% disagree with you.


I'd give it a 60/40 Biden split, personally.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:23 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cisairse wrote:are you sure about that buddy

cuz every poll, prediction, model, and even random people putting their money on the line 100% disagree with you.


I'd give it a 60/40 Biden split, personally.


I agree with this split.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:31 am

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:And that is bad because...


Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Made a Good Point

Do you really think the man who's so deep into PRC'ian money he shits "People's Currency" will do the right thing about PRC?
Honestly guys? I don't think this is a Trump move. I think this is a Pompeo move.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:33 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Made a Good Point

Do you really think the man who's so deep into PRC'ian money he shits "People's Currency" will do the right thing about PRC?
Honestly guys? I don't think this is a Trump move. I think this is a Pompeo move.


It doesn't matter, giving him or his administration credit on a handful of points will not make me reconsider my voting against him.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:41 am

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Cisairse wrote:Well, let's hope he doesn't win re-election, then.

Remember, starting an end-of-term war only really works to help win re-election (historically) if you can use it to disparage your opponent. Bush didn't win in 2004 because he started a war, he won because he started a war and John Kerry had no substantial alternative plan to Bush's for the future of that war, and, more specifically, because Kerry's wartime ideas were overall lackluster and Bush tore him apart for not having military credentials.
Joe Biden is not John Kerry and Donald Trump is not George Bush. The strategy wouldn't work.

Trump needs something drastic to overcome Joe Biden's rock-solid 9-point lead over him nationally, but this ain't it.


Not really no. Right now Trump is likely to win.

maybe in another universe.



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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:43 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:something something 2016 the last thing to happen is the thing that will always happen lack of understanding of polls and probability etc. blah blah blah unprompted sideswipe at Clinton laugh at own joke...I think I've covered the auto-response.

The Time Lords put a Time Lock on America and we're trapped in Eternal 2016.

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Postby Picairn » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:46 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:maybe in another universe.

That moment when August 2017 had a higher disapproval, as well as a lower approval, rate than in 2020. What happened?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:47 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:maybe in another universe.

That moment when August 2017 had a higher disapproval, as well as a lower approval, rate than in 2020. What happened?

He played chicken with the debt ceiling thinking "this time for sure..."
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Postby No State Here » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:48 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:maybe in another universe.

That moment when August 2017 had a higher disapproval, as well as a lower approval, rate than in 2020. What happened?

I would assume, with a new president, people who are angry would be more inclined to answer polls
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:49 am

No State Here wrote:
Picairn wrote:That moment when August 2017 had a higher disapproval, as well as a lower approval, rate than in 2020. What happened?

I would assume, with a new president, people who are angry would be more inclined to answer polls

New presidents generally have a 'honeymoon' period. Trumps lasted mere moments before he was underwater where he has stayed for the duration of his presidency.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
No State Here wrote:I would assume, with a new president, people who are angry would be more inclined to answer polls

New presidents generally have a 'honeymoon' period. Trumps lasted mere moments before he was underwater where he has stayed for the duration of his presidency.

To be fair candidate Trump was far more appealing to the average American than president Trump, I guess that was his honeymoon period. He was also constantly attacked by the mainstream media, which made him look anti establishment
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:51 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
No State Here wrote:I would assume, with a new president, people who are angry would be more inclined to answer polls

New presidents generally have a 'honeymoon' period. Trumps lasted mere moments before he was underwater where he has stayed for the duration of his presidency.


You can see it in aggregators. His high mark was, I think, about two or three weeks after inauguration. After that it promptly plunges.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:51 am

No State Here wrote:
Picairn wrote:That moment when August 2017 had a higher disapproval, as well as a lower approval, rate than in 2020. What happened?

I would assume, with a new president, people who are angry would be more inclined to answer polls


Most people thought he would mature and make sensible decisions back in 2017. They where quickly proven wrong.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:51 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:New presidents generally have a 'honeymoon' period. Trumps lasted mere moments before he was underwater where he has stayed for the duration of his presidency.

To be fair candidate Trump was far more appealing to the average American than president Trump, I guess that was his honeymoon period. He was also constantly attacked by the mainstream media, which made him look anti establishment


The only thing that made the Trump campaign look anti-establishment was the Trump campaign.
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Postby Picairn » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:57 am

Found it! August 2017 was when Mueller called in a grand jury for the investigation into Russian interference, as well as when the "Unite the Right" rally happened in Charlottesville. Probably why his approval rating dropped. https://www.infoplease.com/current-even ... s-us-news#

All of this feels like an eternity ago...
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:01 am

No State Here wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:New presidents generally have a 'honeymoon' period. Trumps lasted mere moments before he was underwater where he has stayed for the duration of his presidency.

To be fair candidate Trump was far more appealing to the average American than president Trump, I guess that was his honeymoon period. He was also constantly attacked by the mainstream media, which made him look anti establishment


Candidate Trump seemed like a social Democrat. A bigotted social Democrat that hates Muslims and black people and Mexican immigrants but a social Democrat nonetheless.

President Trump is a classic Republican who gives his cronies endless tax breaks, and he still hasn't built the wall nor does he probably plan to. Trump is loyal to himself and money. America isn't a concern for him.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:01 am

Picairn wrote:Found it! August 2017 was when Mueller called in a grand jury for the investigation into Russian interference, as well as when the "Unite the Right" rally happened in Charlottesville. Probably why his approval rating dropped. https://www.infoplease.com/current-even ... s-us-news#

All of this feels like an eternity ago...


Man it's been three years since Unite the Right?
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Postby Picairn » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:04 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Man it's been three years since Unite the Right?

I still remember when I watched Trump on CNN saying "There were very fine people on both sides".
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:05 am

Picairn wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Man it's been three years since Unite the Right?

I still remember when I watched Trump on CNN saying "There were very fine people on both sides".


You arent a fine person if you show up to defend a statue, see Klansmen, Nazis, proudboys and militias and say "guess I'll stay." But Trump begs to differ.

Like if I showed up to a protest for George Floyd and some black folks got anti white signs and one says to me "yo you ready to kill some white folks tonight?" Best believe I'm sneaking out of there. At day's end, no one on the right wing side in that battle was a fine person.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:26 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Time Lords put a Time Lock on America and we're trapped in Eternal 2016.

Oh no, Gauth found out!

Yes, yes, you admire him and wish more like him were in government. We get it.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:56 am

Gormwood wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Oh no, Gauth found out!

Yes, yes, you admire him and wish more like him were in government. We get it.

What?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:03 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Yes, yes, you admire him and wish more like him were in government. We get it.

What?

What indeed...

Aureumterra wrote:What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

Aureumterra wrote:I’m personally a Trump Supporter, so I don’t see a problem with that.

Oh… Fake News, now I get your post

Aureumterra wrote:I don’t know if it’s too early to decide, but I think Donald Trump is one of the best. Only now, the stocks are falling…

Are you trying to find a lifeboat off the Trumptanic now?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:08 am

Aureumterra wrote:What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.


That really didn't strengthen relations with Israel. With or without this Israel American relations would be about the same.

It was pure virtue signalling and changed nothing.

If America really did care about it's allies it wouldn't have stolen all those 3M masks heading for Canada.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:16 am

Yes the hermit Neo-Confucian Kingdom of the DPRK, a well-known ally of America unlike the American colony of Japan.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am

Gormwood wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:What?

What indeed...

Aureumterra wrote:What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

Aureumterra wrote:I’m personally a Trump Supporter, so I don’t see a problem with that.

Oh… Fake News, now I get your post

Aureumterra wrote:I don’t know if it’s too early to decide, but I think Donald Trump is one of the best. Only now, the stocks are falling…

Are you trying to find a lifeboat off the Trumptanic now?

#CancelAureumterra

He made pro-Trump posts in 2017 and 2018!
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