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Neanderthaland wrote:

Gormwood wrote:New York Times: Trump considered selling Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria, former acting Homeland Security chief says

No wonder the GOP doesn't want Puerto Rico statehood.

Trade it for Greenland?

Sells Puerto Rico so he can make money to buy Greenland.

Then we can watch on live TV as he goes there, looks around and says "what the fuck? We were gonna give our beautiful farmers nice new land and this shithole is a barren tundra! Why isn't it green? They said it was Greenland! All there is here is some polar bears, snow, Igloos and Eskimos! Denmark you really did me wrong!"

Rojava Free State wrote:

Jerzylvania wrote:
Factually, I'd say more than half these decedents were receiving SSI.

That and/or pensions.

Let's not kid ourselves here folks. I know we're trying to be inclusive but this virus doesn't usually kill healthy young people. This thing primarily targets the old and the unhealthy. And while you can probably point to one case where some 25 year old with stage 3 asthma got covid and died, for the most part the average age of covid fatalities is well into the senior years. Many of the people this thing killed probably didn't work anymore so it didn't kill 130,000 workers. I'm not downplaying how bad this situation is. I'm just saying Jerzy is probably right.

…The average age for a COVID death in the US is 48.

Rojava Free State wrote:Let's not kid ourselves here folks. I know we're trying to be inclusive but this virus doesn't usually kill healthy young people. This thing primarily targets the old and the unhealthy. And while you can probably point to one case where some 25 year old with stage 3 asthma got covid and died, for the most part the average age of covid fatalities is well into the senior years. Many of the people this thing killed probably didn't work anymore so it didn't kill 130,000 workers. I'm not downplaying how bad this situation is. I'm just saying Jerzy is probably right.

Well, you are right that it mostly kills the elderly, but it is slightly more than "one 25 year old".
The number of people under 65 who died from Covid is about 22k in the USA currently, and rising.
Of those, about 1000 were under 35.

Slightly more than 1.

The Alma Mater wrote:

Rojava Free State wrote:Let's not kid ourselves here folks. I know we're trying to be inclusive but this virus doesn't usually kill healthy young people. This thing primarily targets the old and the unhealthy. And while you can probably point to one case where some 25 year old with stage 3 asthma got covid and died, for the most part the average age of covid fatalities is well into the senior years. Many of the people this thing killed probably didn't work anymore so it didn't kill 130,000 workers. I'm not downplaying how bad this situation is. I'm just saying Jerzy is probably right.

Well, you are right that it mostly kills the elderly, but it is slightly more than "one 25 year old".
The number of people under 65 who died from Covid is about 22k in the USA currently, and rising.
Of those, about 1000 were under 35.

Slightly more than 1.

My point is that alot of the people killed were probably not working anymore. It isnt 130,000 workers who died. Many workers probably did die, but not 130,000. It's still an economic blow though since I'm sure almost all those people were consumers.

Rojava Free State wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Well, you are right that it mostly kills the elderly, but it is slightly more than "one 25 year old".
The number of people under 65 who died from Covid is about 22k in the USA currently, and rising.
Of those, about 1000 were under 35.

Slightly more than 1.

My point is that alot of the people killed were probably not working anymore. It isnt 130,000 workers who died. Many workers probably did die, but not 130,000. It's still an economic blow though since I'm sure almost all those people were consumers.

Consumers?

Rojava Free State wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Well, you are right that it mostly kills the elderly, but it is slightly more than "one 25 year old".
The number of people under 65 who died from Covid is about 22k in the USA currently, and rising.
Of those, about 1000 were under 35.

Slightly more than 1.

My point is that alot of the people killed were probably not working anymore. It isnt 130,000 workers who died. Many workers probably did die, but not 130,000. It's still an economic blow though since I'm sure almost all those people were consumers.

Dan Patrick, is that you?

Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:I caught a whiff of this working its way through the machine when a dude on a friend's facebook post was gung ho to open schools on the premise that it would be slightly less lethal than it might have been a month ago. I pointed out that Fauci wasn't as enamored by that stat as a passing reference and he was apparently loaded for Fauci bear. I didn't base my argument on Fauci but that didn't stop him.

Well, Dr. Fauci has a medical kind of authority and could be a reverse Jim Comey if he felt like it. That's bad for Donny. I am sure this has entered the mini minds inside the WH. The Doc could put out a telling public letter in late October. A move the needle a couple points kinda thing. Trump should be handling him with kid gloves but he hasn't the ability to be anything other than adversarial. The fools running Trump' campaign should be scared shitless of a scenario like this. Just sayin.

Fauci also has the advantage in that he can't be fired by Trump.

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

I mean rejecting PRC'ian Imperialist claims in places they never had a real claim to is a good thing?

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

I mean rejecting PRC'ian Imperialist claims in places they never had a real claim to is a good thing?

Would he even bother doing so if he was leading comfortably in the polls?

Neutraligon wrote:

Jerzylvania wrote:
Well, Dr. Fauci has a medical kind of authority and could be a reverse Jim Comey if he felt like it. That's bad for Donny. I am sure this has entered the mini minds inside the WH. The Doc could put out a telling public letter in late October. A move the needle a couple points kinda thing. Trump should be handling him with kid gloves but he hasn't the ability to be anything other than adversarial. The fools running Trump' campaign should be scared shitless of a scenario like this. Just sayin.

Fauci also has the advantage in that he can't be fired by Trump.

Explains why he wasn't replaced by an attractive female doctor that wouldn't look out of place in a UK comedy sketch.

Vassenor wrote:So ICE is now offering training to ordinary civilians on how to arrest immigrants.

Uh... why?

Wasn't this the plot to Machete?

Vassenor wrote:So ICE is now offering training to ordinary civilians on how to arrest immigrants.

Uh... why?

You know the only people willing to take that course are more likely to shoot and kill immigrants than take them alive.

Maybe ICE's next course is "how to get away with murder." Fucking pricks.

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

I’m confused, am I supposed to dislike this because Trump did it?

No State Here wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

I’m confused, am I supposed to dislike this because Trump did it?

Trump trying to provoke military conflict with China to give himself a War President boost in November, helloo?

Gormwood wrote:

No State Here wrote:I’m confused, am I supposed to dislike this because Trump did it?

Trump trying to provoke military conflict with China to give himself a War President boost in November, helloo?

If his management of the COVID crisis is any indicator, Trump would be an absolute shit war president that would probably end up making us lose due to piss poor brain dead decision making.

Gormwood wrote:

No State Here wrote:I’m confused, am I supposed to dislike this because Trump did it?

Trump trying to provoke military conflict with China to give himself a War President boost in November, helloo?

You do know we’ve been sailing ships into what China claims is their waters for a while right?

Loben The 2nd wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Trump trying to provoke military conflict with China to give himself a War President boost in November, helloo?

You do know we’ve been sailing ships into what China claims is their waters for a while right?

This is slightly different, it's openly calling China's territorial claims as illegal, it's also the first time for a long long while two aircraft carriers are operating in the region.

It's funny, most people here think Trump is a moron however.. however they are somewhat inclined to want him in power because he might just be moronic enough to start a conflict here and hopefully give China a smack on the nose.

The danger is Biden comes in and reaches out to restore relations with China, where history has shown China will take that and reply with nice words yet continue to do what it does.

Bombadil wrote:

Loben The 2nd wrote:
You do know we’ve been sailing ships into what China claims is their waters for a while right?

This is slightly different, it's openly calling China's territorial claims as illegal, it's also the first time for a long long while two aircraft carriers are operating in the region.

It's funny, most people here think Trump is a moron however.. however they are somewhat inclined to want him in power because he might just be moronic enough to start a conflict here and hopefully give China a smack on the nose.

The danger is Biden comes in and reaches out to restore relations with China, where history has shown China will take that and reply with nice words yet continue to do what it does.

The way Trump taught the Iranians a lesson in the Persian Gulf? The way Trump got Kim Jong-un to dismantle his nuclear program? The way Trump stood up to the Russians over ... well, everything? He couldn't even get the Mexicans to pay for his Wall.

Farnhamia wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
This is slightly different, it's openly calling China's territorial claims as illegal, it's also the first time for a long long while two aircraft carriers are operating in the region.

It's funny, most people here think Trump is a moron however.. however they are somewhat inclined to want him in power because he might just be moronic enough to start a conflict here and hopefully give China a smack on the nose.

The danger is Biden comes in and reaches out to restore relations with China, where history has shown China will take that and reply with nice words yet continue to do what it does.

The way Trump taught the Iranians a lesson in the Persian Gulf? The way Trump got Kim Jong-un to dismantle his nuclear program? The way Trump stood up to the Russians over ... well, everything? He couldn't even get the Mexicans to pay for his Wall.

Well Trump couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag but he may see his only hope for re-election is to take on China militarily, a conflict in the South China Sea, just noting that over here we wouldn't mind that.

It's encouraging that the world is beginning to stand up to China, the danger is for anti-Trump reasons a new president comes in and decides to go back to allowing China to literally get away with murder.

Bombadil wrote:

Farnhamia wrote:The way Trump taught the Iranians a lesson in the Persian Gulf? The way Trump got Kim Jong-un to dismantle his nuclear program? The way Trump stood up to the Russians over ... well, everything? He couldn't even get the Mexicans to pay for his Wall.

Well Trump couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag but he may see his only hope for re-election is to take on China militarily, a conflict in the South China Sea, just noting that over here we wouldn't mind that.

It's encouraging that the world is beginning to stand up to China, the danger is for anti-Trump reasons a new president comes in and decides to go back to allowing China to literally get away with murder.

Maybe, maybe not. Biden has some decent foreign policy chops and, unlike Trump, he'll actually look at what his predecessor's done and not reject everything just because Trump.

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

And that is bad because...

Aureumterra wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Somebody's thirsting for that War President electoral bonus...

US rejects nearly all Chinese claims in South China Sea

Now watch China make it personal by revoking all of Ivanka's trademark patents in response.

And that is bad because...

The right thing done by the wrong person can sometimes be worse than doing nothing.

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Aureumterra wrote:And that is bad because...

The right thing done by the wrong person can sometimes be worse than doing nothing.

Not really.

Loben The 2nd wrote:

Gormwood wrote:Trump trying to provoke military conflict with China to give himself a War President boost in November, helloo?

You do know we’ve been sailing ships into what China claims is their waters for a while right?

China claims many things are theirs.