MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Ouch.

I mean you guys got one nation and you had the cronulla riots, and the history of the white Australia policy and anti Italian racism up into the 1970s.

The Cronulla riots were instigated by one man with a microphone, who should have done jail time but didn't even lose his job.
It's really annoying to have it brought up (you're not the first) because it's a massive outlier. Australians are actually quite violent, but they almost never riot.

Other "riots" in our history tended to be against police. Or Americans.

[New Bremerton]

Hope it isn't too late to wish all Americans a very happy Independence Day. This is an occasion we in HK will never get to celebrate, what with our freedoms, history, culture, language, and identity rapidly being eroded by a handful of vindictive, power-hungry bastards in Beijing. Celebrate your national heritage and your Founding Fathers and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Donald Trump is absolutely right. Leftist, cancel culture snowflakes are attempting to wage a Maoist-style cultural revolution to erase American culture, traditions, and history. Never take your freedoms and history for granted. The American flag stands for freedom and democracy for so many people around the world where freedom is nothing more than a pipe dream, including Hong Kong. Always remember that.

[Kowani]

Hope it isn't too late to wish all Americans a very happy Independence Day. This is an occasion we in HK will never get to celebrate, what with our freedoms, history, culture, language, and identity rapidly being eroded by a handful of vindictive, power-hungry bastards in Beijing. Celebrate your national heritage and your Founding Fathers and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Donald Trump is absolutely right. Leftist, cancel culture snowflakes are attempting to wage a Maoist-style cultural revolution to erase American culture, traditions, and history. Never take your freedoms and history for granted. The American flag stands for freedom and democracy for so many people around the world where freedom is nothing more than a pipe dream, including Hong Kong. Always remember that.

>America
>Democracy


These two things are slightly incompatible.

[Proctopeo]

Actually that didn’t come up. Interesting question though. Next time I see him.

Oh I did forget he did mention he was getting more “Chingchongchingchongchingchong” after he walks by people.....

This is why I roll my eyes when people say there is no racism in America. To the contrary I think America is the most racist western nation, and maybe Australia is a close second.

Antiziganism complicates this; Europeans really do not like the Romani. People hate them more than they do Muslims across Europe, and the least racist country against them in the EU, Germany, still has 37% of the population disliking them.

[Vassenor]

Hope it isn't too late to wish all Americans a very happy Independence Day. This is an occasion we in HK will never get to celebrate, what with our freedoms, history, culture, language, and identity rapidly being eroded by a handful of vindictive, power-hungry bastards in Beijing. Celebrate your national heritage and your Founding Fathers and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Donald Trump is absolutely right. Leftist, cancel culture snowflakes are attempting to wage a Maoist-style cultural revolution to erase American culture, traditions, and history. Never take your freedoms and history for granted. The American flag stands for freedom and democracy for so many people around the world where freedom is nothing more than a pipe dream, including Hong Kong. Always remember that.

If Democracy mattered to America Trump would not be president.

[WayNeacTia]

Well now.

I just learned a friend of mine no longer wants to go out in public by himself. He will if his wife goes with him. He is a bit of a germ phoebe and she was thinking “oh god.”

It turns out he has been getting accosted by people. Go back to China! Stop eating bats! If it was a person he would normally ignore it. However, he said it was multiple instances each day he was out.

Did I mention he is Chinese-American and was born here. Tech professional working at VMware.

Did I also mention this was in the Bay Area which is supposed to be a liberal sanctuary.

Trump is truly Making America Hate Again.

Hate buys votes. Very much like walls apparently buy votes.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Donald Trump is absolutely right. Leftist, cancel culture snowflakes are attempting to wage a Maoist-style cultural revolution to erase American culture, traditions, and history.

I would say something about the Confederate monuments being monuments to treason as defined by the very Constitution of the United States but it's bloody 7 am and I cba to educate people.
Also:

So the country's on fire, police is running rampant and shooting/beating/gassing anybody who looks at them the wrong way, COVID19 has taken over... and the Chief Executive is rambling on about his imagined enemies of the state and defending monuments to treason...

Go watch Independence Day IDFKN... instead of going on NSG and spouting divisive nonsense on a Saturday evening.

[New Bremerton]

Donald Trump is absolutely right. Leftist, cancel culture snowflakes are attempting to wage a Maoist-style cultural revolution to erase American culture, traditions, and history.

I would say something about the Confederate monuments being monuments to treason as defined by the very Constitution of the United States but it's 7 am and I cba to educate people.
Also:

So the country's on fire, police is running rampant and shooting/beating/gassing anybody who looks at them the wrong way, COVID19 has taken over... and the Chief Executive is rambling on about his imagined enemies of the state and defending monuments to treason...

1. Monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are far from treasonous. By contemporary standards, the Founding Fathers were extremely liberal and progressive. How would we like it if statues of MLK Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela were toppled by our 100x more progressive descendants 200 years from now because our moral standards are not as refined as theirs?

2. Donald Trump's shameful dismissal of the coronavirus pandemic and the complete absence of any social distancing at his rally at Mount Rushmore should be deplored. But that, and rampant police brutality, are separate issues.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If Jefferson Davis shows up at this Garden of Heroes thing by Donald I'm going to probably laugh sarcastically.

[Vassenor]

I would say something about the Confederate monuments being monuments to treason as defined by the very Constitution of the United States but it's 7 am and I cba to educate people.
Also:

1. Monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are far from treasonous. By contemporary standards, the Founding Fathers were extremely liberal and progressive. How would we like it if statues of MLK Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela were toppled by our 100x more progressive descendants 200 years from now because our moral standards are not as refined as theirs?

2. Donald Trump's shameful dismissal of the coronavirus pandemic and the complete absence of any social distancing at his rally at Mount Rushmore should be deplored. But that, and rampant police brutality, are separate issues.

Jefferson was notorious for raping one of his slaves. What's liberal and progressive about that?

[The Alma Mater]

I would say something about the Confederate monuments being monuments to treason as defined by the very Constitution of the United States but it's 7 am and I cba to educate people.
Also:

1. Monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are far from treasonous. By contemporary standards, the Founding Fathers were extremely liberal and progressive. How would we like it if statues of MLK Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela were toppled by our 100x more progressive descendants 200 years from now because our moral standards are not as refined as theirs?

They are already being toppled NOW. Remember, Gandhi was a racist who advocated white supremacy in South Africa

But yes, as mentioned earlier, in 200 years people will probably consider meat-eaters to be amoral filth and topple those status.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

1. Monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are far from treasonous. By contemporary standards, the Founding Fathers were extremely liberal and progressive. How would we like it if statues of MLK Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela were toppled by our 100x more progressive descendants 200 years from now because our moral standards are not as refined as theirs?

2. Donald Trump's shameful dismissal of the coronavirus pandemic and the complete absence of any social distancing at his rally at Mount Rushmore should be deplored. But that, and rampant police brutality, are separate issues.

Jefferson was notorious for raping one of his slaves. What's liberal and progressive about that?

We could always put new statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in after the mob has done what over 100 years of Southern politicians has consistently failed to do: Dump the monuments to slavery and treason in the dustbin of history.

[New Bremerton]

Go watch Independence Day IDFKN... instead of going on NSG and spouting divisive nonsense on a Saturday evening.

Wishing Americans a Happy Independence Day is "divisive". Toppling statues of Founding Fathers and whining endlessly about some racist shit that happened in the distant past instead of being grateful for the fact that America has improved by leaps and bounds since then totally isn't.

I have every right to post here unless a mod tells me otherwise.

[Vassenor]

Go watch Independence Day IDFKN... instead of going on NSG and spouting divisive nonsense on a Saturday evening.

Wishing Americans a Happy Independence Day is "divisive". Toppling statues of Founding Fathers and whining endlessly about some racist shit that happened in the distant past instead of being grateful for the fact that America has improved by leaps and bounds since then totally isn't.

I have every right to post here unless a mod tells me otherwise.

And we have every right to point out when you're spouting bullshit.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Go watch Independence Day IDFKN... instead of going on NSG and spouting divisive nonsense on a Saturday evening.

Wishing Americans a Happy Independence Day is "divisive". Toppling statues of Founding Fathers and whining endlessly about some racist shit that happened in the distant past instead of being grateful for the fact that America has improved by leaps and bounds since then totally isn't. :roll:

I have every right to post here unless a mod tells me otherwise.

You could probably acknowledge the fact that most of this monuments bullshit has been over Confederate monuments to idk... treason and slavery? And that the Chief Executive of the country defending those very same Confederate monuments is... divisive at the very least?

[Minskiev]

I, for one, am for removing statues of people like Jefferson Davis and the like, as there’s nothing someone can celebrate him for without it being something racist.

However, taking down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues? That’s a little far. For the time period, they were liberal as hell. In a few hundred years, Joe Biden for example may be thought of as right-wing. It’s all about context.

Therefore, I highly suggest you stop complaining about our Founding Fathers, who, by the way, were thought of as liberal, being too conservative, and be glad your marriage isn’t arranged. In the future, you may be thought of as far-right if you accidentally say ‘Hey guys’ instead of ‘Hey everybody’. Even then, maybe that’s exclusive to those without bodies, such as AI. It’s all about context.

[Vassenor]

I, for one, am for removing statues of people like Jefferson Davis and the like, as there’s nothing someone can celebrate him for without it being something racist.

However, taking down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues? That’s a little far. For the time period, they were liberal as hell. In a few hundred years, Joe Biden for example may be thought of as right-wing. It’s all about context.

Therefore, I highly suggest you stop complaining about our Founding Fathers, who, by the way, were thought of as liberal, being too conservative, and be glad your marriage isn’t arranged. In the future, you may be thought of as far-right if you accidentally say ‘Hey guys’ instead of ‘Hey everybody’. Even then, maybe that’s exclusive to those without bodies, such as AI. It’s all about context.

So what's comparatively liberal about raping your slaves?

[Gormwood]

I, for one, am for removing statues of people like Jefferson Davis and the like, as there’s nothing someone can celebrate him for without it being something racist.

However, taking down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues? That’s a little far. For the time period, they were liberal as hell. In a few hundred years, Joe Biden for example may be thought of as right-wing. It’s all about context.

Therefore, I highly suggest you stop complaining about our Founding Fathers, who, by the way, were thought of as liberal, being too conservative, and be glad your marriage isn’t arranged. In the future, you may be thought of as far-right if you accidentally say ‘Hey guys’ instead of ‘Hey everybody’. Even then, maybe that’s exclusive to those without bodies, such as AI. It’s all about context.

So what's comparatively liberal about raping your slaves?

So the Declaration of Independence should be null and void then?

[Minskiev]

Not to say raping your slaves is okay, because there are far too many things wrong with that, however the rape of slaves was a common occurrence among slave owners, which, by the way, was a good amount of white men, so creating a constitution instead of creating an autocracy definitely makes you liberal in comparison to others at the time.

It’s all about context, for the last time.


Also, raping your slaves isn’t liberal. The person is.

What’s that? America is named after a man? Cancel it immediately.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I, for one, am for removing statues of people like Jefferson Davis and the like, as there’s nothing someone can celebrate him for without it being something racist.

However, taking down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues? That’s a little far. For the time period, they were liberal as hell. In a few hundred years, Joe Biden for example may be thought of as right-wing. It’s all about context.

Therefore, I highly suggest you stop complaining about our Founding Fathers, who, by the way, were thought of as liberal, being too conservative, and be glad your marriage isn’t arranged. In the future, you may be thought of as far-right if you accidentally say ‘Hey guys’ instead of ‘Hey everybody’. Even then, maybe that’s exclusive to those without bodies, such as AI. It’s all about context.

It's really unfortunate about the monuments to George Washington et al., but to be quite brutally honest this whole shit wouldn't have happened if the previous century of oppression of people the ruling class thought of as subhumans wasn't there, and people weren't taking their effort to mark their "superiority" with monuments of their own greatest heroes.

[Picairn]

So what's comparatively liberal about raping your slaves?

So his achievements in writing the Declaration of Independence and helping in the draft of the Constitution aren't liberal enough for your taste?

Edit: Raping your slaves isn't liberal or conservative. It's only right or wrong. Therefore, the term "liberal" only serve as a non-sequitur.

[The Alma Mater]

I, for one, am for removing statues of people like Jefferson Davis and the like, as there’s nothing someone can celebrate him for without it being something racist.

However, taking down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson statues? That’s a little far. For the time period, they were liberal as hell. In a few hundred years, Joe Biden for example may be thought of as right-wing. It’s all about context.

Therefore, I highly suggest you stop complaining about our Founding Fathers, who, by the way, were thought of as liberal, being too conservative, and be glad your marriage isn’t arranged. In the future, you may be thought of as far-right if you accidentally say ‘Hey guys’ instead of ‘Hey everybody’. Even then, maybe that’s exclusive to those without bodies, such as AI. It’s all about context.

It's really unfortunate about the monuments to George Washington et al., but to be quite brutally honest this whole shit wouldn't have happened if the previous century of oppression of people the ruling class thought of as subhumans wasn't there, and people weren't taking their effort to mark their "superiority" with monuments of their own greatest heroes.

Exactly. The only reason people are upset about statues being torn down is because they do not want to think about WHY they are being torn down - and if they themselves are not at least partly to blame for supporting the system.

[Minskiev]

Well, there are some statues that are undoubtedly just. For example, the Statue of Liberty, or the proposed statue of Dolly Parton. She’s constantly set up programs for kids to have free books to read.

Instead of dismissing an entire idea because of a few racists, instead simply replace the statues that don’t deserve to be such with those who rightfully should be commended with a statue.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So what's comparatively liberal about raping your slaves?

So his achievements in writing the Declaration of Independence and helping in the draft of the Constitution aren't liberal enough for your taste?

Being a hypocrit actually plays quite well in history. The people who hate you think only of the bad thing you did, but they sure don't forget your name.

[Minskiev]

What’s that? Mustache man was white? Cancel all the whites.