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by Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:53 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:57 pm
Fahran wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:I have a feeling he'll be using his last flight on Airforce One to get to a non-extradition country.
I doubt the end of his political life'll be as dramatic as that. He'll either win another term and then bank on that to sell his hotels and casinos or he'll lose, rant a bit, whine to Alex Jones, and then become a semi-persistent nuissance.
by Bear Stearns » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:57 pm
by The Alma Mater » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:02 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Holy shit what the fuck did Trump just say?!? He is out of his mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
by Tombradyonia » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:18 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:Holy shit what the fuck did Trump just say?!? He is out of his mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Oh come.on, is it really a surprise that he loves antifa after all that effort he made to make them look badass instead of pathetic ?
by Fartsniffage » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:23 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:Holy shit what the fuck did Trump just say?!? He is out of his mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Oh come.on, is it really a surprise that he loves antifa after all that effort he made to make them look badass instead of pathetic ?
by Zurkerx » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Here's where I'm stuck with the whole Bolton thing:
First, how many tell all books are we at now with former staffers? One thing I will say is that they're all painting a pretty consistent picture of a thin skinned moron who has no idea what his job is. But has any of them made a difference at this point? Most of us assumed this to be the case and those who did not have become experts at deciding when and who to listen to. At this point I'm just inclined to believe the 'Trump Library' will actually just be a building of tell all books about the presidency written by former sycophants trying to buy their souls back.
Second, Bolton is still a sack of shit. His beef with Trump has never been that he's an incompetent boob but that he was too much of an incompetent boob to do the extra shitty things that Bolton wanted to do. After being the recess appointment of two unpopular presidents he's cashing out with a 'this fucking idiot' book I worry that the thrust of the 'this fucking idiot' book is ultimately 'and he didn't even want to occupy Iran' or some shit.
Though I don't want this to be confused with the hackneyed obfuscation that you always see of 'oh now liberals are okay with Bolton I thought he was a war criminal in waiting lol'. I don't think anyone is 'suddenly okay' with Bolton and there is a quality to the vipers in the viper pit eating each other.
Finally, the decision to not testify means he wasn't willing to put any of this to the test by saying it under oath. There are plenty of reasons to do this, but I like none of them.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:36 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Oh come.on, is it really a surprise that he loves antifa after all that effort he made to make them look badass instead of pathetic ?
I was more surprised when he admitted his deep and smouldering love for Obama. Not that I didn't see the sexual tension before, more that he managed to say "smouldering" without fucking it up.
by Galloism » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:37 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
I was more surprised when he admitted his deep and smouldering love for Obama. Not that I didn't see the sexual tension before, more that he managed to say "smouldering" without fucking it up.
You all should spend time thinking about what you have done.
by Bear Stearns » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:39 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:snip
Tombradyonia wrote:snip
Fartsniffage wrote:snip
Cannot think of a name wrote:You all should spend time thinking about what you have done.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:39 pm
Zurkerx wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Here's where I'm stuck with the whole Bolton thing:
First, how many tell all books are we at now with former staffers? One thing I will say is that they're all painting a pretty consistent picture of a thin skinned moron who has no idea what his job is. But has any of them made a difference at this point? Most of us assumed this to be the case and those who did not have become experts at deciding when and who to listen to. At this point I'm just inclined to believe the 'Trump Library' will actually just be a building of tell all books about the presidency written by former sycophants trying to buy their souls back.
Second, Bolton is still a sack of shit. His beef with Trump has never been that he's an incompetent boob but that he was too much of an incompetent boob to do the extra shitty things that Bolton wanted to do. After being the recess appointment of two unpopular presidents he's cashing out with a 'this fucking idiot' book I worry that the thrust of the 'this fucking idiot' book is ultimately 'and he didn't even want to occupy Iran' or some shit.
Though I don't want this to be confused with the hackneyed obfuscation that you always see of 'oh now liberals are okay with Bolton I thought he was a war criminal in waiting lol'. I don't think anyone is 'suddenly okay' with Bolton and there is a quality to the vipers in the viper pit eating each other.
Finally, the decision to not testify means he wasn't willing to put any of this to the test by saying it under oath. There are plenty of reasons to do this, but I like none of them.
That's a fair assessment in my view. Bolton I was never too keen on anyway, but I'll take his word over Trump's any day, even if Bolton is a Neocon that wants to invade Iran or North Korea. Yes, the oath part is a problem but I suspect this will further hardened both sides. Having said that, it's still quite concerning this is the leader of the United States: a thin-skin man that has no concept of management, or for that matter, leadership skills, or the basic facts or understanding on how the fucking world works.
by Outer Sparta » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:52 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
That's a fair assessment in my view. Bolton I was never too keen on anyway, but I'll take his word over Trump's any day, even if Bolton is a Neocon that wants to invade Iran or North Korea. Yes, the oath part is a problem but I suspect this will further hardened both sides. Having said that, it's still quite concerning this is the leader of the United States: a thin-skin man that has no concept of management, or for that matter, leadership skills, or the basic facts or understanding on how the fucking world works.
Well, certainly Bolton has been a sack of shit I don't know that he's been a lying sack of shit (I mean, maybe, I'm not a Bolton expert) and Trump is indeed a lying sack of shit.
It's just that if those things concerned you, you likely saw them in 2016, too. Because...well, he's not subtle.
by Fahran » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:25 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:You all should spend time thinking about what you have done.
by Zurkerx » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:51 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
That's a fair assessment in my view. Bolton I was never too keen on anyway, but I'll take his word over Trump's any day, even if Bolton is a Neocon that wants to invade Iran or North Korea. Yes, the oath part is a problem but I suspect this will further hardened both sides. Having said that, it's still quite concerning this is the leader of the United States: a thin-skin man that has no concept of management, or for that matter, leadership skills, or the basic facts or understanding on how the fucking world works.
Well, certainly Bolton has been a sack of shit I don't know that he's been a lying sack of shit (I mean, maybe, I'm not a Bolton expert) and Trump is indeed a lying sack of shit.
It's just that if those things concerned you, you likely saw them in 2016, too. Because...well, he's not subtle.
by Gravlen » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:52 pm
Zurkerx wrote:Gravlen wrote:Motherfucker.Xi had explained to Trump why he was basically building concentration camps in Xinjiang. According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do.
WSJ excerpt from the book (behind a paywall)
God damn it...
The National Security Council's top Asia staffer, Matthew Pottinger, told me that Trump said something similar during his November 2017 trip to China.
by Gormwood » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:54 pm
Gravlen wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
God damn it...
German word for the feeling when you know he's just the worst, but he still manages to be worse than you though.
And it does get worse.
The next sentence is as follows:The National Security Council's top Asia staffer, Matthew Pottinger, told me that Trump said something similar during his November 2017 trip to China.
So it's not an isolated thought. Trump is pro-concentration camps.
by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:57 pm
by Gravlen » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:58 pm
Gormwood wrote:Gravlen wrote:German word for the feeling when you know he's just the worst, but he still manages to be worse than you though.
And it does get worse.
The next sentence is as follows:The National Security Council's top Asia staffer, Matthew Pottinger, told me that Trump said something similar during his November 2017 trip to China.
So it's not an isolated thought. Trump is pro-concentration camps.
He probably wishes he could build a bunch in the U.S. hence his admiration for authoritarians like Kim and Xi.
by Aureumterra » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:59 pm
Gormwood wrote:Gravlen wrote:German word for the feeling when you know he's just the worst, but he still manages to be worse than you though.
And it does get worse.
The next sentence is as follows:The National Security Council's top Asia staffer, Matthew Pottinger, told me that Trump said something similar during his November 2017 trip to China.
So it's not an isolated thought. Trump is pro-concentration camps.
He probably wishes he could build a bunch in the U.S. hence his admiration for authoritarians like Kim and Xi.
by Gravlen » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:01 pm
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:On a scale of one to ten, how much should we believe from Bolton? He refused to testify any of this stuff under oath, for whatever reason
by Gormwood » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:02 pm
by Farnhamia » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:04 pm
by Gormwood » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:05 pm
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