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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
And yet 35 to 40% of Americans still want that dumb shit. The MAGA crowd is ironically anti American as hell.

I honestly can’t believe so many people are down with and support such an openly corrupt and mindlessly incompetent administration running their nation. To quote Ellen Ripley in Aliens “Did IQ’s drop sharply while I was away?”


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Postby Chan Island » Tue May 26, 2020 12:48 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
And yet 35 to 40% of Americans still want that dumb shit. The MAGA crowd is ironically anti American as hell.

I honestly can’t believe so many people are down with and support such an openly corrupt and mindlessly incompetent administration running their nation. To quote Ellen Ripley in Aliens “Did IQ’s drop sharply while I was away?”


No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 12:51 pm

Zurkerx wrote:An Analysis: Trump's anti-mask campaign picks up steam.

Due to the lack of moral leadership (we shouldn't be surprised at this point), it's not a surprise Trump's views of wearing a mask come off as weak, and undermines his message that the pandemic isn't as severe. This has led to the politicization of masks, leading to more and more people not wearing them due to them being convinced that if the President isn't worried, they won't be either. While certainly the summer weather will slow the spread of the virus, the fact we may see more and more people not donning masks means more people could die.

Oh, btw, on an emphasis on deregulation, back in 2017, The Trump Administration Killed a Rule Designed To Protect Health Workers From Pandemic Like COVID-19.

When President Trump took office in 2017, his team stopped work on new federal regulations that would have forced the healthcare industry to prepare for an airborne infectious disease pandemic like COVID-19. That decision is documented in federal records reviewed by NPR.

"If that rule had gone into effect, then every hospital, every nursing home would essentially have to have a plan where they made sure they had enough respirators and they were prepared for this sort of pandemic," said David Michaels, who at the time served as head of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

There are still no specific federal regulations protecting healthcare workers from deadly airborne pathogens like influenza, tuberculosis or the coronavirus. This fact hit home during the last respiratory pandemic, the H1N1 outbreak in 2009. Thousands of Americans died and dozens of healthcare workers got sick. At least four nurses died.

Studies conducted after H1N1 found voluntary federal safety guidelines designed to limit the spread of airborne pathogens in medical facilities often weren't being followed. There were also shortages of personal protective equipment (PPE).


The current head of OSHA Loren Sweatt has said there are enough rules already in place and the hospital industry opposes the measures (as do Republicans in power).

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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 26, 2020 12:52 pm

Chan Island wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I honestly can’t believe so many people are down with and support such an openly corrupt and mindlessly incompetent administration running their nation. To quote Ellen Ripley in Aliens “Did IQ’s drop sharply while I was away?”


No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 26, 2020 1:29 pm

Chan Island wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I honestly can’t believe so many people are down with and support such an openly corrupt and mindlessly incompetent administration running their nation. To quote Ellen Ripley in Aliens “Did IQ’s drop sharply while I was away?”


No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.


"Yeah Trump is a corrupt asshole, but he hates on brown people so it's all good"

-that one retard
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Chan Island » Tue May 26, 2020 1:32 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.


"Yeah Trump is a corrupt asshole, but he hates on brown people so it's all good"

-that one retard


I mean- yes? That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying and that is one of the groups.

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What, you think that one retard is in a hurry to vote democrat any time soon?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 26, 2020 1:45 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
"Yeah Trump is a corrupt asshole, but he hates on brown people so it's all good"

-that one retard


I mean- yes? That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying and that is one of the groups.

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What, you think that one retard is in a hurry to vote democrat any time soon?


I'm not sarcastically making fun of your statement. Thats actually reality, and there are people like that out there.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 1:47 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
I mean- yes? That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying and that is one of the groups.

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What, you think that one retard is in a hurry to vote democrat any time soon?


I'm not sarcastically making fun of your statement. Thats actually reality, and there are people like that out there.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 26, 2020 1:48 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I'm not sarcastically making fun of your statement. Thats actually reality, and there are people like that out there.

A MAGA cap on the hesd tends to be a warning sign, like bright coloration in nature.


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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 1:51 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:A MAGA cap on the hesd tends to be a warning sign, like bright coloration in nature.


MAGA

Make
America
Garbage
Again

MAGdA

Make
America
Great depressed
Again
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 26, 2020 2:45 pm

Chan Island wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I honestly can’t believe so many people are down with and support such an openly corrupt and mindlessly incompetent administration running their nation. To quote Ellen Ripley in Aliens “Did IQ’s drop sharply while I was away?”


No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.

I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 26, 2020 2:52 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.

I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


If you can't understand why being a single issue voter is a bad thing then I question if you have the requisite understanding of the responsibility that is inherent in the right to vote.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue May 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Chan Island wrote:No, the Republican party just found 5 or 6 categories of single issue voters and push them on those continuously. As long as their single issue is dealt with as they like, they won't touch the Democratic party next election.

I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


It can be a bad thing if the candidate you support is an absoute disaster for the country in all other respects.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 2:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


If you can't understand why being a single issue voter is a bad thing then I question if you have the requisite understanding of the responsibility that is inherent in the right to vote.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 2:56 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


It can be a bad thing if the candidate you support is an absoute disaster for the country in all other respects.

As is the case right now.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 26, 2020 3:00 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


It can be a bad thing if the candidate you support is an absoute disaster for the country in all other respects.

True, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should vote directly against their own interests. And to preempt the dull argument, no, it isn't a "fuck you got mine", it's "how much do I want to shoot myself, specifically, in the foot".

Fartsniffage wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I really don't see how being a single-issue voter is a bad thing. Or is it only a bad thing when the single issue is one you disagree with!? :eek:

Oh, and fwiw, I'm not a single-issue voter. I consider multiple ones, and that consideration has made me reject both the Republicans and the Democrats. Neither are worth my time.


If you can't understand why being a single issue voter is a bad thing then I question if you have the requisite understanding of the responsibility that is inherent in the right to vote.

This is a stupid take, but one I'll give the dignity of an actual response. I can completely empathize with people who only look for one policy position in a candidate, and only will change their tune if something major comes up. It may not be the brightest way to choose a candidate, but it's valid, and saying it's not comes off as a bit elitist. Again, I'm not a single-issue voter, I'm just capable of understanding why people are.

Gormwood wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
If you can't understand why being a single issue voter is a bad thing then I question if you have the requisite understanding of the responsibility that is inherent in the right to vote.

Muh Preshus!

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue May 26, 2020 3:02 pm

Twitter labels Trump’s tweets with a fact-check for the first time

Twitter on Tuesday slapped a fact-check label on President Trump’s tweets for the first time, a response to long-standing criticism that the company is too hands-off when it comes to policing misinformation and falsehoods from world leaders.

The move, which escalates tensions between Washington and Silicon Valley in an election year, was made in response to two Trump tweets over the past 24 hours. The tweets falsely claimed that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. Twitter’s label says, “Get the facts about mail-in ballots,” and redirects users to news articles about Trump’s unsubstantiated claim.

The tweets, said Twitter spokesperson Katie Rosborough, “contain potentially misleading information about voting processes and have been labeled to provide additional context around mail-in ballots.”

Twitter’s actions come on a day when Twitter was facing a barrage of criticism over another set of Trump tweets. Earlier on Tuesday the widower of a former staffer to or Joe Scarborough has asked Twitter chief executive officer Jack Dorsey to delete tweets by President Trump furthering a baseless conspiracy theory about his wife’s death.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 26, 2020 3:03 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
True, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should vote directly against their own interests. And to preempt the dull argument, no, it isn't a "fuck you got mine", it's "how much do I want to shoot myself, specifically, in the foot".


Being a single-issue voter tends to mean voting against your own interests in the slew of other politics that you like but won't vote on, and then you'd wonder why everything is so shitty all the time.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 26, 2020 3:12 pm

Proctopeo wrote:This is a stupid take, but one I'll give the dignity of an actual response. I can completely empathize with people who only look for one policy position in a candidate, and only will change their tune if something major comes up. It may not be the brightest way to choose a candidate, but it's valid, and saying it's not comes off as a bit elitist. Again, I'm not a single-issue voter, I'm just capable of understanding why people are.


I understand that educated comes off to Americans as eliteist. But I promise it isn't. It just means not considering one persons ignorance being the same as another persons knowledge.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 26, 2020 3:19 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Twitter labels Trump’s tweets with a fact-check for the first time

Twitter on Tuesday slapped a fact-check label on President Trump’s tweets for the first time, a response to long-standing criticism that the company is too hands-off when it comes to policing misinformation and falsehoods from world leaders.

The move, which escalates tensions between Washington and Silicon Valley in an election year, was made in response to two Trump tweets over the past 24 hours. The tweets falsely claimed that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. Twitter’s label says, “Get the facts about mail-in ballots,” and redirects users to news articles about Trump’s unsubstantiated claim.

The tweets, said Twitter spokesperson Katie Rosborough, “contain potentially misleading information about voting processes and have been labeled to provide additional context around mail-in ballots.”

Twitter’s actions come on a day when Twitter was facing a barrage of criticism over another set of Trump tweets. Earlier on Tuesday the widower of a former staffer to or Joe Scarborough has asked Twitter chief executive officer Jack Dorsey to delete tweets by President Trump furthering a baseless conspiracy theory about his wife’s death.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.


About damn time.


He's gonna be in an even madder mood.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 26, 2020 3:25 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:
True, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should vote directly against their own interests. And to preempt the dull argument, no, it isn't a "fuck you got mine", it's "how much do I want to shoot myself, specifically, in the foot".


Being a single-issue voter tends to mean voting against your own interests in the slew of other politics that you like but won't vote on, and then you'd wonder why everything is so shitty all the time.

Voting for a politician under basically any circumstance involves voting against some of your own interests. Focusing on one single issue that's of vital importance to you is a form of prioritization, and just an extreme form of what people often do (if they're not voting entirely on partisan lines, ofc).

Fartsniffage wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:This is a stupid take, but one I'll give the dignity of an actual response. I can completely empathize with people who only look for one policy position in a candidate, and only will change their tune if something major comes up. It may not be the brightest way to choose a candidate, but it's valid, and saying it's not comes off as a bit elitist. Again, I'm not a single-issue voter, I'm just capable of understanding why people are.


I understand that educated comes off to Americans as eliteist. But I promise it isn't. It just means not considering one persons ignorance being the same as another persons knowledge.

Calling people "ignorant" for voting using particular criteria that you don't agree with is pretty elitist, though.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 26, 2020 3:27 pm

Proctopeo wrote:Calling people "ignorant" for voting using particular criteria that you don't agree with is pretty elitist, though.


I didn't say that. You did.

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 26, 2020 3:28 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Calling people "ignorant" for voting using particular criteria that you don't agree with is pretty elitist, though.


I didn't say that. You did.

It was heavily implied by what you said, even if you didn't explicitly say it.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 26, 2020 3:30 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Twitter labels Trump’s tweets with a fact-check for the first time

Twitter on Tuesday slapped a fact-check label on President Trump’s tweets for the first time, a response to long-standing criticism that the company is too hands-off when it comes to policing misinformation and falsehoods from world leaders.

The move, which escalates tensions between Washington and Silicon Valley in an election year, was made in response to two Trump tweets over the past 24 hours. The tweets falsely claimed that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. Twitter’s label says, “Get the facts about mail-in ballots,” and redirects users to news articles about Trump’s unsubstantiated claim.

The tweets, said Twitter spokesperson Katie Rosborough, “contain potentially misleading information about voting processes and have been labeled to provide additional context around mail-in ballots.”

Twitter’s actions come on a day when Twitter was facing a barrage of criticism over another set of Trump tweets. Earlier on Tuesday the widower of a former staffer to or Joe Scarborough has asked Twitter chief executive officer Jack Dorsey to delete tweets by President Trump furthering a baseless conspiracy theory about his wife’s death.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.


About damn time.


He's gonna be in an even madder mood.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 26, 2020 3:32 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I didn't say that. You did.

It was heavily implied by what you said, even if you didn't explicitly say it.


No it wasn't. You just inferred it. Why is that?

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