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Eukaryotic Cells
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:55 pm

Officially, the Proud Boys are not a white nationalist group. There's a lot of cross-over between their group and white nationalist groups, however.

Many white nationalists engage in a rhetorical cryptofascist/dog whistling game to make their ideology more palatable or socially acceptable. They believe that it provides them with plausible deniability, and that it gives them a chance to infiltrate more "mainstream" circles of discourse.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:56 pm

Rusozak wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:You do know that there's blacks within BLM that hate whites. When you hate someone because of their skin color, that is the textbook definition of racism.


Sure there's a couple bad eggs, but that doesn't plaster the whole movement as racist.

Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:57 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Sure there's a couple bad eggs, but that doesn't plaster the whole movement as racist.

Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


So why aren't you screaming this at the Blue Lives Matter crowd?
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:57 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Sure there's a couple bad eggs, but that doesn't plaster the whole movement as racist.

Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


Says the person trying to deflect attention away from a serious problem a persecuted minority is facing. I don't think you understand what "All lives matter" means when it takes that context. Or maybe you do...
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:01 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Sure there's a couple bad eggs, but that doesn't plaster the whole movement as racist.

Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!
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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:13 pm

Estanglia wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!

The Left always say we shouldn't hate yet they have been hating on President Trump since before he was even elected. Hypocrisy at its best.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:15 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!

The Left always say we shouldn't hate yet they have been hating on President Trump since before he was even elected. Hypocrisy at its best.


That's not what people mean when they say "we shouldn't hate"

That doesn't mean we shouldn't experience strong dislike of everything, just not unjustified contempt of other groups of people. They're not hypocritical on that point for hating Trump, they'd be hypocritical on that point for hating Trump supporters as a group.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:17 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!

The Left always say we shouldn't hate yet they have been hating on President Trump since before he was even elected. Hypocrisy at its best.


Dislike of a politician for the things they do and say is just a bit different from actively hating a demographic just for existing.

Now are you going to explain what was stopping him from condemning white supremacists during the debate or not?
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:17 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!

The Left always say we shouldn't hate yet they have been hating on President Trump since before he was even elected. Hypocrisy at its best.


I don't care about the hypocrisy of some vague, broad, undefined group that just so conveniently has no coherent platform, no universally consistent beliefs, and no agreed-upon universal spokespeople so you can attribute some vague principle about "don't hate" to said group to call them hypocrites.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:49 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Would you look at that, something nobody since the start of your participation in this thread has denied or disputed.

Truly, it is something that must be said!

The Left always say we shouldn't hate yet they have been hating on President Trump since before he was even elected. Hypocrisy at its best.


American Pere Housh wrote:#BlueLivesMatter


Vassenor wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


So why aren't you screaming this at the Blue Lives Matter crowd?


I would also like to know.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:32 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Sure there's a couple bad eggs, but that doesn't plaster the whole movement as racist.

Just remember folks: ALL LIVES MATTER


Of course red lives matter!
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Postby Fahran » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:02 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Of course red lives matter!

Red lives? That's an interesting statement, sir. Let me ask you...

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

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Postby Diahon » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:04 pm

President Donald John Trump has caught the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

Apropos of nothing, shall I go in depth how I felt when Osama bin Laden was killed, a decade and thousands of lives too late?

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Postby Fahran » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:09 pm

Diahon wrote:President Donald John Trump has caught the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

Apropos of nothing, shall I go in depth how I felt when Osama bin Laden was killed, a decade and thousands of lives too late?

I think that'd be in bad taste given Trump isn't really on par with the leader of a terrorist cell and that he's still alive.

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Postby Diahon » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:18 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diahon wrote:President Donald John Trump has caught the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

Apropos of nothing, shall I go in depth how I felt when Osama bin Laden was killed, a decade and thousands of lives too late?

I think that'd be in bad taste given Trump isn't really on par with the leader of a terrorist cell and that he's still alive.


This ungodly king of the wastes, too, shall go his progress, though I did not expect it to be so soon. Let's see if his 239 pounds of what others assume is muscle will be able to bear this crown of spikes.

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Postby Diahon » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:27 pm

Apart from Donald, Melanija Trump neé Knavs and Hope Charlotte Hicks are confirmed to have had the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

The possibility that Jared Corey Kushner and Stephen Miller have also contracted the pathogen is correspondingly high, as well.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diahon wrote:President Donald John Trump has caught the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

Apropos of nothing, shall I go in depth how I felt when Osama bin Laden was killed, a decade and thousands of lives too late?

I think that'd be in bad taste given Trump isn't really on par with the leader of a terrorist cell and that he's still alive.


True, Trump killed much more people and caused far fod.misery and destruction than Bin Laden did. Comparing them is unfair.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:43 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:True, Trump killed much more people and caused far fod.misery and destruction than Bin Laden did. Comparing them is unfair.

Like I said, bad taste.

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Postby Alternamerica » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:46 pm

Trump just got tested positive for Covid. The memes are flowing
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:46 pm

And Trump and Melania test positive.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:48 pm

Fahran wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:True, Trump killed much more people and caused far fod.misery and destruction than Bin Laden did. Comparing them is unfair.

Like I said, bad taste.


Facts are facts. And they are not even alternative
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Postby Fahran » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:48 pm

Alternamerica wrote:Trump just got tested positive for Covid. The memes are flowing

Now, memes, even when in bad taste, are usually funny. Because they don't have malice or gloating behind them. Just the endless bulli.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 pm

Fahran wrote:
Alternamerica wrote:Trump just got tested positive for Covid. The memes are flowing

Now, memes, even when in bad taste, are usually funny. Because they don't have malice or gloating behind them. Just the endless bulli.

Well, Trump's responsible for 200,000 deaths, and I think that's in even worse taste, so...
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:55 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Fahran wrote:I think that'd be in bad taste given Trump isn't really on par with the leader of a terrorist cell and that he's still alive.


True, Trump killed much more people and caused far fod.misery and destruction than Bin Laden did. Comparing them is unfair.


President Trump shouldn't be compared to bin Laden at all, it's fatuous of you and you trying to make a serious point of it, is offensive.

Trump should be compared to other Presidents. They all kill a lot of people, except usually it's foreigners.
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