MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Cannot think of a name]

Isn't trump currently using the army to steal syrian oil? The guy literally has helped the MIC so much.

What is "MIC"?

What I rock when the beat drops.

[Sanghyeok]

The Liberal Democrats still pretend comfort women didn't happen.

Annnd you foresee a military confrontation between South Korea and Japan?

Historical revisionism and right-wing Japanese nationalism are a very scary mix. I don't want to see Showa Era Part II again. If you think right-wing in US and Trump is scary, please look at right-wing LDP. They would probably be best friends with AfD.

[Loben III]

Annnd you foresee a military confrontation between South Korea and Japan?

Historical revisionism and right-wing Japanese nationalism are a very scary mix. I don't want to see Showa Era Part II again. If you think right-wing in US and Trump is scary, please look at right-wing LDP. They would probably be best friends with AfD.

A strong Japan would be a very useful Japan imo.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Isn't trump currently using the army to steal syrian oil? The guy literally has helped the MIC so much.

What is "MIC"?

The military industrial complex. If you're in the business of selling guns, you don't profit during peace time as much as you do when there's violence, so you lobby congressional and presidential elections and support candidates who will bring about more wars, and in return for them giving you the conflicts they want, you give them campaign contributions for future elections.

Before Trump, their representatives in government were better at towing the line of "we're doing this (war crimes, bombings, entire cities destroyed, mass starvation and disease) for Freedom^TM." Trump isnt as good at lying on that front and basically admitted in his speech yesterday to it all being war for profit, but at day's end he hasn't pulled us out of the middle east like he said he would so they're cool with him.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Historical revisionism and right-wing Japanese nationalism are a very scary mix. I don't want to see Showa Era Part II again. If you think right-wing in US and Trump is scary, please look at right-wing LDP. They would probably be best friends with AfD.

A strong Japan would be a very useful Japan imo.

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

[Loben III]

A strong Japan would be a very useful Japan imo.

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

Cross that nuclear ground zero when we get there.

[Sanghyeok]

What is "MIC"?

The military industrial complex. If you're in the business of selling guns, you don't profit during peace time as much as you do when there's violence, so you lobby congressional and presidential elections and support candidates who will bring about more wars, and in return for them giving you the conflicts they want, you give them campaign contributions for future elections.

Before Trump, their representatives in government were better at towing the line of "we're doing this (war crimes, bombings, entire cities destroyed, mass starvation and disease) for Freedom^TM." Trump isnt as good at lying on that front and basically admitted in his speech yesterday to it all being war for profit, but at day's end he hasn't pulled us out of the middle east like he said he would so they're cool with him.

I see. Freedom has long been a favorite excuse of warmongers, this I know.

[Sanghyeok]

A strong Japan would be a very useful Japan imo.

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

I don't mind a non-revisionist, non-LDP Japan. But until they start writing in textbooks about the atrocities of WWII, I don't want JSDF to be any stronger than it is now.

[Loben III]

The military industrial complex. If you're in the business of selling guns, you don't profit during peace time as much as you do when there's violence, so you lobby congressional and presidential elections and support candidates who will bring about more wars, and in return for them giving you the conflicts they want, you give them campaign contributions for future elections.

Before Trump, their representatives in government were better at towing the line of "we're doing this (war crimes, bombings, entire cities destroyed, mass starvation and disease) for Freedom^TM." Trump isnt as good at lying on that front and basically admitted in his speech yesterday to it all being war for profit, but at day's end he hasn't pulled us out of the middle east like he said he would so they're cool with him.

I see. Freedom has long been a favorite excuse of warmongers, this I know.

Before that it was peacekeeping, hell a couple years back it was for minorities in the Middle East.

[Aureumterra]

A strong Japan would be a very useful Japan imo.

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

Japan’s weird pacifist state isn’t sustainable, they need to toughen up against China

[Sanghyeok]

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

Cross that nuclear ground zero when we get there.

I would prefer for Japan to not suffer a third nuclear strike, thank you very much!

[Loben III]

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

I don't mind a non-revisionist, non-LDP Japan. But until they start writing in textbooks about the atrocities of WWII, I don't want JSDF to be any stronger than it is now.

It was ages ago.

[Bear Stearns]

I don't mind a non-revisionist, non-LDP Japan. But until they start writing in textbooks about the atrocities of WWII, I don't want JSDF to be any stronger than it is now.

It was ages ago.

I look forward to the day when everyone from the World War II generation is gone and people can finally shut up about it. Maybe it will allow for more dispassionate and distant analysis of what really happened.

[The Black Forrest]

It was ages ago.

I look forward to the day when everyone from the World War II generation is gone and people can finally shut up about it. Maybe it will allow for more dispassionate and distant analysis of what really happened.

Interesting....So you can’t analyze if you had relatives in the war?

The problem with your dream is without the people who were actually there; myths happen much easier.

[Bear Stearns]

I look forward to the day when everyone from the World War II generation is gone and people can finally shut up about it. Maybe it will allow for more dispassionate and distant analysis of what really happened.

Interesting....So you can’t analyze if you had relatives in the war?

The problem with your dream is without the people who were actually there; myths happen much easier.

The myths were created by the people who actually were there, though. The reason why we barely know anything about Soviet war crimes is because the Eastern Front is a foundational myth of modern Russia, and this was deliberately created by the veterans of the war itself, and modern research in Eastern Europe about what really happened during Barbarossa is hopelessly politicized by a confluence of bad actors, ranging from Russian nationalists, Ukrainian nationalists, Polish nationalists, and Israelis.

Whenever a new mass grave is discovered in Ukraine or Poland it is essentially covered up to suit some narrative ("the Polish did it!", "the Ukrainians did it!", etc.).

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

Japan’s weird pacifist state isn’t sustainable, they need to toughen up against China

Just remember that unlike Germany, which was totally denazified, the racism that drove Japanese imperialism is still alive in Japan. The last thing any of us should want is a near future where the Japanese diet say "now we got a full fledged war machine of an army. Let's force everyone around us to suck our cocks."

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It was ages ago.

I look forward to the day when everyone from the World War II generation is gone and people can finally shut up about it. Maybe it will allow for more dispassionate and distant analysis of what really happened.

This but about an event that happened during world War II that gets talked about too emotionally and overshadows similar events that happened more recently elsewhere.

Please understand that said event was indeed evil and cruel, but im tired of it being used to justify Israel doing whatever it feels like doing, and I'm also tired of how we're supposed to remember that event but we already forgot what happened in Rwanda.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Till they're a threat to us...and our allies.

I don't mind a non-revisionist, non-LDP Japan. But until they start writing in textbooks about the atrocities of WWII, I don't want JSDF to be any stronger than it is now.

The LDP is doing what is best for Japan. They only include what is factually correct in textbooks, not communist propaganda. A strong JSDF means a safe Asia and secure US interests. The LDP has done an amazing job under Shinzo Abe to reinterpret the constitution to allow for better defensive measures and to ensure proper education. The goal should be to abolish Article 9 and restoring powers to the Chrysanthemum Throne, and the LDP is doing well by pushing for that.

[Loben III]

Japan’s weird pacifist state isn’t sustainable, they need to toughen up against China

Just remember that unlike Germany, which was totally denazified, the racism that drove Japanese imperialism is still alive in Japan. The last thing any of us should want is a near future where the Japanese diet say "now we got a full fledged war machine of an army. Let's force everyone around us to suck our cocks."

so Japan should prostrate itself forever and be weak when China is breathing down its neck?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I don't mind a non-revisionist, non-LDP Japan. But until they start writing in textbooks about the atrocities of WWII, I don't want JSDF to be any stronger than it is now.

The LDP is doing what is best for Japan. They only include what is factually correct in textbooks, not communist propaganda. A strong JSDF means a safe Asia and secure US interests. The LDP has done an amazing job under Shinzo Abe to reinterpret the constitution to allow for better defensive measures and to ensure proper education. The goal should be to abolish Article 9 and restoring powers to the Chrysanthemum Throne, and the LDP is doing well by pushing for that.

The only thing worse than trying to justify atrocities is trying to pretend they never happened. It just shows you know it was wrong but refuse to accept it because it was your guys who did it.

American G.I.s aren't communist propagandists.

[Loben III]

The LDP is doing what is best for Japan. They only include what is factually correct in textbooks, not communist propaganda. A strong JSDF means a safe Asia and secure US interests. The LDP has done an amazing job under Shinzo Abe to reinterpret the constitution to allow for better defensive measures and to ensure proper education. The goal should be to abolish Article 9 and restoring powers to the Chrysanthemum Throne, and the LDP is doing well by pushing for that.

The only thing worse than trying to justify atrocities is trying to pretend they never happened. It just shows you know it was wrong but refuse to accept it because it was your guys who did it.

American G.I.s aren't communist propagandists.

and Japan is our one of our allies in the area and keeping them weak for a rather piss poor reason is probably one of the stupidest things i ever heard.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

The LDP is doing what is best for Japan. They only include what is factually correct in textbooks, not communist propaganda. A strong JSDF means a safe Asia and secure US interests. The LDP has done an amazing job under Shinzo Abe to reinterpret the constitution to allow for better defensive measures and to ensure proper education. The goal should be to abolish Article 9 and restoring powers to the Chrysanthemum Throne, and the LDP is doing well by pushing for that.

The only thing worse than trying to justify atrocities is trying to pretend they never happened. It just shows you know it was wrong but refuse to accept it because it was your guys who did it.

American G.I.s aren't communist propagandists.

What is stated in the textbooks is consistent with facts provided by the Liberal Democratic Party and the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform.

It is funny that you do not recognize your own injustices against the Japanese people including but not limited to internment camps, the rapes and murders committed by allied personnel, and other warcrimes.

[Loben III]

The only thing worse than trying to justify atrocities is trying to pretend they never happened. It just shows you know it was wrong but refuse to accept it because it was your guys who did it.

American G.I.s aren't communist propagandists.

What is stated in the textbooks is consistent with facts provided by the Liberal Democratic Party and the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform.

It is funny that you do not recognize your own injustices against the Japanese people including but not limited to internment camps, the rapes and murders committed by allied personnel, and other warcrimes.

welcome to the Pacific Theatre, pretenses of fighting humanely were dead.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

The only thing worse than trying to justify atrocities is trying to pretend they never happened. It just shows you know it was wrong but refuse to accept it because it was your guys who did it.

American G.I.s aren't communist propagandists.

and Japan is our one of our allies in the area and keeping them weak for a rather piss poor reason is probably one of the stupidest things i ever heard.

Japan is one of our strongest allies in the Pacific and by limiting them, we force ourselves to spend more money and send more troops protecting them.

[Loben III]

and Japan is our one of our allies in the area and keeping them weak for a rather piss poor reason is probably one of the stupidest things i ever heard.

Japan is one of our strongest allies in the Pacific and by limiting them, we force ourselves to spend more money and send more troops protecting them.

see? besides they are great partners and have produced (and improved upon) our designs. The F-2 didnt appear from out of the blue.