MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

by **Gravlen** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:08 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:His republican predecessor did.

So did Fauci, and other infectious disease experts.

The previous president, Obama, had even made preparations for such a possibility, and made sure tabletop exercises, which included planning for a pandemic-like situation, took place during the transition between him and Trump.

But yeah, even before the global pandemic hit Trump was on his way to oversee a record increase in the debt.

by **Rusozak** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:09 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You expect him to have predicted a global pandemic?

His republican predecessor did.

As did Obama, who even prepared for it. But of course Trump had to set fire to it all. Burn the life rafts and focus on how well the ship is sinking.

by **Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2016 Trump: "I will eliminate the us debt."

Trump being a blowhard isn't actually news. The Wall Street Journal should know this by now.

It might not be news, but it is astounding that people keep voting for said blowhard. Which is news by proxy.

by **Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:11 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Liriena wrote:Reagan was an overrated senile cunt.

He set up for the collapse of the PRC and the liberation of Eastern Europe from communism

Oh yes, thanks to him, the PRC collapsed.

Wait...

by **Aureumterra** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:19 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:He set up for the collapse of the PRC and the liberation of Eastern Europe from communism

Oh yes, thanks to him, the PRC collapsed.

Wait...

Whoops sorry I meant USSR

by **Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:32 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Oh yes, thanks to him, the PRC collapsed.

Wait...

Whoops sorry I meant USSR

By telling Gorbatsov to tear down the wall? Or by the debunked myth that somehow US military spending bankrupted the Soviet Union?

Reagan wanted to increase military spending as a way to give government handouts to arms companies, and used the USSR as an excuse. People fell for it then, and people fall for it now.

Do you remember when Reagan sold missiles to Iran and fuelled drug trade in the US?

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:03 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2016 Trump: "I will eliminate the us debt."

You expect him to have predicted a global pandemic?

Covid doesn't excuse the three years of deficits before then. Or the 2 years of gop Congress and Trump spending.

Anyway yeah the infection reports where there but he stuffed his fingers in his ears and ignored it.

By judging Trump by his own standards he lead the US down the path of mass death and debt.

by **Empirical Switzerland** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:04 pm

XD talk to me about debt when you read about Obama!

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:05 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2016 Trump: "I will eliminate the us debt."

Trump being a blowhard isn't actually news. The Wall Street Journal should know this by now.

It is news beacuse it's worth repeating that Trump lied to you about fixing the debt. He lied for your support he lied to anyone who voted for him beacuse he was going to elimate the debt.

by **Diahon** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:06 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2016 Trump: "I will eliminate the us debt."

You expect him to have predicted a global pandemic?

Did I expect him to predict an inevitability and follow through with all the resources the United States has at its disposal to at the very least significantly soften its socioeconomic impact and at most curtail and contain its spread in the event of it happening during his term?

Why, no, Trump can't do that, Trump was and is a failure at anything but keeping himself afloat and being as much of a fucking dick to people as possible. So I expected an abyss of shit from him and was slackjawed when he dug an abyss beneath even that abyss.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:07 pm

Empirical Switzerland wrote:XD talk to me about debt when you read about Obama!

Funny thing is I don't give a shit one way or another about the US debt. What I care about is the Truth. He said that he would eliminate the us debt or atleast a percentage of it in 8 years.

It's been four and 6 trillion dollars of debt have been spent.

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:08 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Trump being a blowhard isn't actually news. The Wall Street Journal should know this by now.

It is news beacuse it's worth repeating that Trump lied to you about fixing the debt. He lied for your support he lied to anyone who voted for him beacuse he was going to elimate the debt.

Who cares? No, he very truthfully continues to not be Hillary Clinton. Promises Made, Promises Kept™

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:09 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Trump being a blowhard isn't actually news. The Wall Street Journal should know this by now.

It might not be news, but it is astounding that people keep voting for said blowhard. Which is news by proxy.

Feeling's mutual my dude.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pm

Diahon wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You expect him to have predicted a global pandemic?

Did I expect him to predict an inevitability and follow through with all the resources the United States has at its disposal to at the very least significantly soften its socioeconomic impact and at most curtail and contain its spread?

Why, no, Trump can't do that, Trump was and is a failure at anything but keeping himself afloat and being as much of a fucking dick to people as possible. So I expected an abyss of shit from him and was slackjawed when he dug an abyss beneath even that abyss.

Republican presidents have a bad habit of ignoreing warnings. Like W Bush and the cia report that said Bin Laden was going to attack America or Trump and the reports on how fast covid spreads.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:11 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:It is news beacuse it's worth repeating that Trump lied to you about fixing the debt. He lied for your support he lied to anyone who voted for him beacuse he was going to elimate the debt.

Who cares? No, he very truthfully continues to not be Hillary Clinton. Promises Made, Promises Kept™

He did back in 2016. Hold him to standards.

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:12 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Who cares? No, he very truthfully continues to not be Hillary Clinton. Promises Made, Promises Kept™

He did back in 2016. Hold him to standards.

He did become Hillary Clinton? Fuck man that's trippy.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:14 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
He did back in 2016. Hold him to standards.

He did become Hillary Clinton? Fuck man that's trippy.

He cared about the debt back in 2016. He should care about it now. Trump supporters should care about that now and not blindy worship him.

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
He did become Hillary Clinton? Fuck man that's trippy.

He cared about the debt back in 2016. He should care about it now. Trump supporters should care about that now and not blindy worship him.

Why should we care about the debt? Why does him being a liar imply anyone ought not vote for him?

by **Cannot think of a name** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:20 pm

Empirical Switzerland wrote:XD talk to me about debt when you read about Obama!

I just did. Let's talk about it:

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

Looking ahead, recent legislative changes are expected to help Trump catch up to some of his predecessors in the debt-accumulation department.

The combination of the new GOP tax law and the recent bipartisan spending deal are projected to increase the speed of debt accumulation over the rest of Trump's presidency.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, the annual deficit — the shortfall of federal revenue compared with spending in a given fiscal year — will soon push past $1 trillion. 2018's budget deficit was the largest since 2012, when the US was still dealing with the fallout from the recession.

Based on the CBO's projections, Trump will have accumulated $3.73 trillion in new debt by the end of the 2020 fiscal year, which, because of federal budget rules, actually runs until the end of September 2020. And by the end of fiscal 2024, the last year of Trump's second term if he wins reelection, the total debt added is projected to come in at $8.78 trillion.

by **Valrifell** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:21 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He cared about the debt back in 2016. He should care about it now. Trump supporters should care about that now and not blindy worship him.

Why should we care about the debt? Why does him being a liar imply anyone ought not vote for him?

We get it you like guns sheesh.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He cared about the debt back in 2016. He should care about it now. Trump supporters should care about that now and not blindy worship him.

Why should we care about the debt? Why does him being a liar imply anyone ought not vote for him?

Beacuse he did. Hold people to the standards they atleast make for them selves.

Beacuse he lied to you? Manipulated you into voteing for him only for him not to do the thing you voted him for?

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:22 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should we care about the debt? Why does him being a liar imply anyone ought not vote for him?

Beacuse he did. Hold people to the standards they atleast make for them selves.

Beacuse he lied to you? Manipulated you into voteing for him only for him not to do the thing you voted him for?

It's a dumb standard, I'm not obligated to be dumb just because someone else is dumb.

Got some sauce on that?

by **Valrifell** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should we care about the debt? Why does him being a liar imply anyone ought not vote for him?

Beacuse he did. Hold people to the standards they atleast make for them selves.

Beacuse he lied to you? Manipulated you into voteing for him only for him not to do the thing you voted him for?

The only reason why Tel voted for Trump is for

1) Guns
2) A SCOTUS majority to protect guns
3) To spite Democrats.

Has this not been clear?

by **Loben III** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Empirical Switzerland wrote:XD talk to me about debt when you read about Obama!

Funny thing is I don't give a shit one way or another about the US debt. What I care about is the Truth. He said that he would eliminate the us debt or atleast a percentage of it in 8 years.

It's been four and 6 trillion dollars of debt have been spent.

>eliminate the debt.

by **Telconi** » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:26 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Beacuse he did. Hold people to the standards they atleast make for them selves.

Beacuse he lied to you? Manipulated you into voteing for him only for him not to do the thing you voted him for?

The only reason why Tel voted for Trump is for

1) Guns
2) A SCOTUS majority to protect guns
3) To spite Democrats.

Has this not been clear?

Just the top two, I really don't give a shit what Democrats do as long as they stop trying to hurt me.

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