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Postby Gravlen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:23 pm

I like how Trump suggests he will be fine with the idea of someone shooting him with a paintball gun in protest.

Mr Trump described the protest as "peaceful" and said paint was "a defensive mechanism, paint is not bullets".

I wonder if the Secret Service will see it his way...
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:25 pm

Gravlen wrote:I like how Trump suggests he will be fine with the idea of someone shooting him with a paintball gun in protest.

Mr Trump described the protest as "peaceful" and said paint was "a defensive mechanism, paint is not bullets".

Did... did he just completely screw over the conservative strawman of peaceful BLM protests by accident?

If using anything but bullets to commit violence can be counted as a peaceful protest, then almost all of the violence of the past two months meets that definition.

Wow, thanks Donald!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:28 pm

Liriena wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I like how Trump suggests he will be fine with the idea of someone shooting him with a paintball gun in protest.

Mr Trump described the protest as "peaceful" and said paint was "a defensive mechanism, paint is not bullets".

Did... did he just completely screw over the conservative strawman of peaceful BLM protests by accident?

If using anything but bullets to commit violence can be counted as a peaceful protest, then almost all of the violence of the past two months meets that definition.

Wow, thanks Donald!

What he's trying to say is 'as long as you do it in support of me, everything's cool' but instead its as long as you're being 'less than lethal' anything goes. Except if you kneel, then you're a son of a bitch.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:30 pm

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Galloism wrote:He's a former/kind of a lefty who's very disaffected and now criticizes his former side.

Now that I think about it, I kinda feel like Tim Pool's political trajectory kinda retroactively validates the criticisms lots of old crusty left-wing intellectuals had of Occupy Wall Street.


What were those criticism? Occupy was before my enwokening :P
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:31 pm

Liriena wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I like how Trump suggests he will be fine with the idea of someone shooting him with a paintball gun in protest.

Mr Trump described the protest as "peaceful" and said paint was "a defensive mechanism, paint is not bullets".

Did... did he just completely screw over the conservative strawman of peaceful BLM protests by accident?

If using anything but bullets to commit violence can be counted as a peaceful protest, then almost all of the violence of the past two months meets that definition.

Wow, thanks Donald!

You missed a key point. The protesters are anti-Trump, and being anti-Trump is an act of violence that must be punished.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:42 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Liriena wrote:Now that I think about it, I kinda feel like Tim Pool's political trajectory kinda retroactively validates the criticisms lots of old crusty left-wing intellectuals had of Occupy Wall Street.


What were those criticism? Occupy was before my enwokening :P

I can't remember if it was Chomsky or Zizek (probably Zizek, tho), but I recall one of them arguing that it was ultimately a good thing that Occupy failed to gain any traction, and that it was instead suppressed, because in practice it was such an aimless and disorganized mess that it could not have produced anything worth a damn if it had survived.

And Pool is kind of an embodiment of that. Yes, his core appeal to his conservative viewers is his construction of his public persona, of his enunciator, as a disaffected leftist. But beyond the vague self-identification, what specific left-wing causes, policies or organizations has he supported in the past four years? Has he ever really expressed any specific left-wing ideas? Has he tried to use his sizeable platform to push for them? No. Instead his content is mostly him smearing his alleged comrades. If he was ever sincere about being left-wing or left-leaning, he is the living embodiment of the autophagous left.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:49 pm

Liriena wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I like how Trump suggests he will be fine with the idea of someone shooting him with a paintball gun in protest.

Mr Trump described the protest as "peaceful" and said paint was "a defensive mechanism, paint is not bullets".

Did... did he just completely screw over the conservative strawman of peaceful BLM protests by accident?

If using anything but bullets to commit violence can be counted as a peaceful protest, then almost all of the violence of the past two months meets that definition.

Wow, thanks Donald!

We need more interviews with the paranoid man in the White House.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:52 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Liriena wrote:Did... did he just completely screw over the conservative strawman of peaceful BLM protests by accident?

If using anything but bullets to commit violence can be counted as a peaceful protest, then almost all of the violence of the past two months meets that definition.

Wow, thanks Donald!

We need more interviews with the paranoid man in the White House.
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"President Trump, wouldn't you agree that it's wrong that the radical Marxist Democrats won't let the good and beautiful American people who support you set their Maoist cancel culture PC police stations on fire? Isn't that just like in nazi Germany, which was also Marxist and had cancel culture?"

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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:57 pm

Liriena wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:We need more interviews with the paranoid man in the White House.
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"President Trump, wouldn't you agree that it's wrong that the radical Marxist Democrats won't let the good and beautiful American people who support you set their Maoist cancel culture PC police stations on fire? Isn't that just like in nazi Germany, which was also Marxist and had cancel culture?"

Uhm, uh, yes, I would agree that it's a very bad, very bad thing that our, uh, excellent friends and honorable people are being told by the Swamp, Slow Joe, Angry Kamala, and Crooked Hillary that they can't stop the radical Left, which, by the way, is walking around in black clothing, face masks, very nasty people, uh, they won't let us do very good, very patriotic things that need to be done to keep us safe from the weak Democrats and their friends, which by the way aren't American, I don't even know where they're from, surely someplace like, oh, Russia, or China, maybe China, which by the way I've been very tough on as president, I'm very strong, very strong-willed, very thick-skinned, um, did I mention Joe Biden is senile?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:03 pm

My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:05 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:06 pm

Liriena wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.

It could be anyone! It could be the guy who makes my favourite empanadas! Maybe I've been eating antifa empanadas all along!


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Postby Rusozak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:07 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.


Probably intentionally leaving it open for his followers to fill in the gap with whatever they personally think is behind everything bad. Usually marxists or jews according to the ramblings I've seen from Trumpists.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:08 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.


Probably intentionally leaving it open for his followers to fill in the gap with whatever they personally think is behind everything bad. Usually marxists or jews according to the ramblings I've seen from Trumpists.

Mate the 45th president of these United States has never done anything intentional unless it was for the purpose of hoarding wealth very badly.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:12 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.

It's not hard to identify them. They're all in black uniforms on ThugAir.

In an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Trump claimed that “we had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms, with gear and this and that.” He then claimed the matter was “under investigation right now.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-s-plane-loaded-thugs-rumor-matches-months-old-facebook-n1238962
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:13 pm

Remember that guy whom Donald hired months ago? The guy who spent his entire professional career claiming that there was nothing wrong with the American healthcare system? Well... he's now pro-herd immunity strategy., after 180,000 deaths and millions of cases.
Atlas explicitly denied that he is pushing a herd immunity strategy, but an administration official told CNN all of the policies Atlas has pushed for are in the vein of a herd immunity strategy.
Atlas has rejected the need for widespread community testing, arguing that the administration should focus almost exclusively on protecting and testing elderly populations while pushing for the rest of the economy to return to normal, this official said.

*thinking*

Cross-posting this one.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:14 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Remember that guy whom Donald hired months ago? The guy who spent his entire professional career claiming that there was nothing wrong with the American healthcare system? Well... he's now pro-herd immunity strategy., after 180,000 deaths and millions of cases.

*thinking*

Cross-posting this one.

I haven't seen Fauci around for a while... That's a bad omen.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:19 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Cross-posting this one.

I haven't seen Fauci around for a while... That's a bad omen.

He was on ABC this morning kind of exhausted stressing that he's still on the job.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:20 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Cross-posting this one.

I haven't seen Fauci around for a while... That's a bad omen.


After the admin waited until he was in surgery before pushing the "stop all testing" thing through?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:21 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.

It's not hard to identify them. They're all in black uniforms on ThugAir.

In an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Trump claimed that “we had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms, with gear and this and that.” He then claimed the matter was “under investigation right now.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-s-plane-loaded-thugs-rumor-matches-months-old-facebook-n1238962

I posted earlier about this, he basically described every reality crew/film/tv production tech crew ever. Wearing black, lots of gear, tattoos. He was spooked by the Grip & electric, camera, and sound crews.

Or he's constantly making up a mysterious enemy so that more of his supporters load up in pickup trucks to fire paintballs at protestors until he gets his justification for draconian bullshit.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:35 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:My favorite part of his rambling about the scary secret cabal that's controlling the protests is when he's pressed for who they are he gives the same response a hipster does who doesn't want to list the bands they listen to because someone might call them a poser, so he says "people you've never heard of"...motherfucker, that doesn't narrow shit down I've never heard of a lot of people.


Probably intentionally leaving it open for his followers to fill in the gap with whatever they personally think is behind everything bad. Usually marxists or jews according to the ramblings I've seen from Trumpists.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:39 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gravlen wrote:It's not hard to identify them. They're all in black uniforms on ThugAir.

In an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Trump claimed that “we had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms, with gear and this and that.” He then claimed the matter was “under investigation right now.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-s-plane-loaded-thugs-rumor-matches-months-old-facebook-n1238962

I posted earlier about this, he basically described every reality crew/film/tv production tech crew ever. Wearing black, lots of gear, tattoos. He was spooked by the Grip & electric, camera, and sound crews.

Or he's constantly making up a mysterious enemy so that more of his supporters load up in pickup trucks to fire paintballs at protestors until he gets his justification for draconian bullshit.

That's a plausible theory. Well, both of them are.

But as the article above points out, the truth may even be more sad: It's a Facebook post that he's read and made his own. "A person you know has told me..." could easily be Trump-speak for "I read it on Facebook."
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:45 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I posted earlier about this, he basically described every reality crew/film/tv production tech crew ever. Wearing black, lots of gear, tattoos. He was spooked by the Grip & electric, camera, and sound crews.

Or he's constantly making up a mysterious enemy so that more of his supporters load up in pickup trucks to fire paintballs at protestors until he gets his justification for draconian bullshit.

That's a plausible theory. Well, both of them are.

But as the article above points out, the truth may even be more sad: It's a Facebook post that he's read and made his own. "A person you know has told me..." could easily be Trump-speak for "I read it on Facebook."

When he was leaving for Kenosha he said he'd 'get permission' from the person who 'told him' to reveal who he is. Not holding my breath.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:48 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gravlen wrote:That's a plausible theory. Well, both of them are.

But as the article above points out, the truth may even be more sad: It's a Facebook post that he's read and made his own. "A person you know has told me..." could easily be Trump-speak for "I read it on Facebook."

When he was leaving for Kenosha he said he'd 'get permission' from the person who 'told him' to reveal who he is. Not holding my breath.

>president seeking permission
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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