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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:49 am

Vassenor wrote:So what can we expect Trump to say or do to distract from the attention on this?

I don’t know if that means, “saying something outrageous to the media” or “starting a war” but it’s likely to come.


He'll probably say something super offensive like "The police in Selma, Alabama were tough. The police today in Portland are not. In Selma they beat the hell out of the protesters. They rolled over like a dog for them in Portland."
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:55 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So what can we expect Trump to say or do to distract from the attention on this?

I don’t know if that means, “saying something outrageous to the media” or “starting a war” but it’s likely to come.


He'll probably say something super offensive like "The police in Selma, Alabama were tough. The police today in Portland are not. In Selma they beat the hell out of the protesters. They rolled over like a dog for them in Portland."


"like a dog" is great. I really hope he says this!
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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He'll probably say something super offensive like "The police in Selma, Alabama were tough. The police today in Portland are not. In Selma they beat the hell out of the protesters. They rolled over like a dog for them in Portland."


"like a dog" is great. I really hope he says this!


He already has a few times. He said "Al Baghdadi died like a dog crying and whimpering."

Idk how cause he blew up. But Trump doesn't let reality ruin his stories.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:54 am

The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:56 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.


These days I can't tell if they're the National Rifle Association or the National Russian Association.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:58 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.


I missed that one. Misuse of funds? Trump will be next.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:04 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.


These days I can't tell if they're the National Rifle Association or the National Russian Association.


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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:19 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.


I'm not sure how successful they'll be at dissolving the organization. Yes, the leaders of the NRA will likelybe required to pay back the money they took and possibly serve jail time, but I'm unsure if the AG will succeed in getting them dissolve, especially when she called the NRA a "terrorist organization" back in April of 2019. Now if this was in California, then the NRA would be royally fucked.

But this doesn't bold well for Republicans and Trump, especially for the latter who isn't receiving much help from the movement to begin with; they laid off staff and I think aren't investing in the 2020 Election Cycle: I haven't seen an NRA ad in months.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:22 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.

Why are they trying, and why would that be a good thing?

Zurkerx wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.


I'm not sure how successful they'll be at dissolving the organization. Yes, the leaders of the NRA will likelybe required to pay back the money they took and possibly serve jail time, but I'm unsure if the AG will succeed in getting them dissolve, especially when she called the NRA a "terrorist organization" back in April of 2019. Now if this was in California, then the NRA would be royally fucked.

But this doesn't bold well for Republicans and Trump, especially for the latter who isn't receiving much help from the movement to begin with; they laid off staff and I think aren't investing in the 2020 Election Cycle: I haven't seen an NRA ad in months.

Calling them a "terrorist organization" is an amazing meme, shame people actually believe that tripe.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:26 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I'm not sure how successful they'll be at dissolving the organization. Yes, the leaders of the NRA will likelybe required to pay back the money they took and possibly serve jail time, but I'm unsure if the AG will succeed in getting them dissolve, especially when she called the NRA a "terrorist organization" back in April of 2019. Now if this was in California, then the NRA would be royally fucked.

But this doesn't bold well for Republicans and Trump, especially for the latter who isn't receiving much help from the movement to begin with; they laid off staff and I think aren't investing in the 2020 Election Cycle: I haven't seen an NRA ad in months.

Calling them a "terrorist organization" is an amazing meme, shame people actually believe that tripe.


It honestly is surprising. Now, I would like to see these leaders return the money to the NRA and for the organization to get heavily reformed so shit like that doesn't happen again. But I think abolishing the NRA is a little much unless the fraud is widespread. Then again, they brought this onto themselves so perhaps this will hopefully be lesson learnt.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:36 am

Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:40 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Calling them a "terrorist organization" is an amazing meme, shame people actually believe that tripe.


It honestly is surprising. Now, I would like to see these leaders return the money to the NRA and for the organization to get heavily reformed so shit like that doesn't happen again. But I think abolishing the NRA is a little much unless the fraud is widespread. Then again, they brought this onto themselves so perhaps this will hopefully be lesson learnt.

Yes; the solution is not to dissolve it (or anything stupid like that), but to push for it to reform.

Vassenor wrote:Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.

They've not been "left in the dirt", but their questionable past and other suspect actions have caused the creation of other groups, with varying degrees of influence.

Though their track record, spotty as it may be, seems to be cleaner than some other self-proclaimed "civil rights" groups, which I guess partially explains why it sticks around...
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:54 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
It honestly is surprising. Now, I would like to see these leaders return the money to the NRA and for the organization to get heavily reformed so shit like that doesn't happen again. But I think abolishing the NRA is a little much unless the fraud is widespread. Then again, they brought this onto themselves so perhaps this will hopefully be lesson learnt.

Yes; the solution is not to dissolve it (or anything stupid like that), but to push for it to reform.

Vassenor wrote:Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.

They've not been "left in the dirt", but their questionable past and other suspect actions have caused the creation of other groups, with varying degrees of influence.

Though their track record, spotty as it may be, seems to be cleaner than some other self-proclaimed "civil rights" groups, which I guess partially explains why it sticks around...


Actively threatening the free press is cleaner than some? Huh.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:02 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
It honestly is surprising. Now, I would like to see these leaders return the money to the NRA and for the organization to get heavily reformed so shit like that doesn't happen again. But I think abolishing the NRA is a little much unless the fraud is widespread. Then again, they brought this onto themselves so perhaps this will hopefully be lesson learnt.

Yes; the solution is not to dissolve it (or anything stupid like that), but to push for it to reform.


Weren’t you one of the ones saying the WHO had to be disolved?
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:37 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.

Didn’t they say the NRA is a terrorist organization? lmao
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:46 am

Zapato wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
George Orwell could not have written this better.

George Orwell would have tried to make it realistic.


Tfw real life is less realistic than fiction.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.

On what grounds exactly? Snuffing out interest/lobbying groups seems pretty draconian and oppressive.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:23 pm

Fahran wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The State of New York is seeking to dissolve the NRA.

And I say, go get them.

On what grounds exactly? Snuffing out interest/lobbying groups seems pretty draconian and oppressive.

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Vassenor wrote:Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.


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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:38 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Yes; the solution is not to dissolve it (or anything stupid like that), but to push for it to reform.


Weren’t you one of the ones saying the WHO had to be disolved?

Probably, though I'd consider the circumstances a bit different. I don't see reform as really possible for the WHO, given the current circumstances that are out of any realistic control.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:05 pm

Outer Acharet wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.


https://socialistra.org/
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:01 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
It honestly is surprising. Now, I would like to see these leaders return the money to the NRA and for the organization to get heavily reformed so shit like that doesn't happen again. But I think abolishing the NRA is a little much unless the fraud is widespread. Then again, they brought this onto themselves so perhaps this will hopefully be lesson learnt.

Yes; the solution is not to dissolve it (or anything stupid like that), but to push for it to reform.

Vassenor wrote:Honestly, given the amount of toxic crap the NRA has done I'm surprised the gun rights crowd hasn't left them in the dirt to form something new.

They've not been "left in the dirt", but their questionable past and other suspect actions have caused the creation of other groups, with varying degrees of influence.

Though their track record, spotty as it may be, seems to be cleaner than some other self-proclaimed "civil rights" groups, which I guess partially explains why it sticks around...

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