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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:57 am

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"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...

"So then I refused to do anything else and continuously downplayed the threat of the virus and blamed Democrats for creating the hoax about the very real threat and only in the last few weeks even come around to the idea of masks. Leadership!"


I think Trump thinks most Americans are dumbasses. He thinks he can easily revise history and no one can just go on YouTube and watch a video of him in March saying "it's just the flu. Why should we care?"
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:42 am

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... a/1662067/

So I found this poll today from 2012, four years before Trump would infamously become president, and the results are pretty abysmal but not surprising to me. It turns out that around half of Americans have explicitly anti black and anti Hispanic prejudice, and when you consider this poll about American attitudes toward Muslims, you start to see how part of Trump's campaign worked so well.

https://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/how ... and-islam/

There's alot more prejudice in this country than people wanna admit. It's how we got a president who claimed Mexico is not sending its best people.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:12 am

Zurkerx wrote:Trump and his company could be under investigation for bank and insurance fraud, Manhattan DA Vance reveals. The investigation is squarely focused on the Hush Payment, but since they're seeking a decade's worth financial documents, it is possible they will also look into fraud and other sorts of financial crimes. Given the Supreme Court ruling, Trump's not immune to investigations and it's likely a lower court will rule that Mazars and others will have to comply with the subpoenas.

A presidential candidate is under investigation for serious crimes... I wonder if Trump has ever said anything about this kind of situation. :unsure:
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:48 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:There's alot more prejudice in this country than people wanna admit. It's how we got a president who claimed Mexico is not sending its best people.


There's a lot more prejudice in this country than prejudiced people wanna admit. Everyone else has been shouting it from the rooftops since 1763.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:50 am

Cisairse wrote:There's a lot more prejudice in this country than prejudiced people wanna admit. Everyone else has been shouting it from the rooftops since 1763.

Prejudice of various sorts is probably ubiquitous in the human population.

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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:54 am

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Cisairse wrote:There's a lot more prejudice in this country than prejudiced people wanna admit. Everyone else has been shouting it from the rooftops since 1763.

Prejudice of various sorts is probably ubiquitous in the human population.

This is something prejudiced people love to say.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:57 am

Cisairse wrote:
Fahran wrote:Prejudice of various sorts is probably ubiquitous in the human population.

This is something prejudiced people love to say.

If they can rebrand their prejudice as 'honesty' they can pretend it's a virtue and not a stain on humanity.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Cisairse wrote:This is something prejudiced people love to say.

If they can rebrand their prejudice as 'honesty' they can pretend it's a virtue and not a stain on humanity.

Pretty much, yeah.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:14 am

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Cisairse wrote:This is something prejudiced people love to say.

If they can rebrand their prejudice as 'honesty' they can pretend it's a virtue and not a stain on humanity.

That wasn't really the objective, no. Prejudice itself isn't intrinsically good or bad, though a lot of what we colloquially refer to as prejudice strikes me as a vice. But, to get back to my point, prejudice doesn't really seem strongly rooted to a particular ideology. Instead certain ideological and political tendencies simply tend to coincide with certain prejudices. For instance, right-wingers seem more predisposed towards racial prejudice than left-wingers whereas left-wingers seem more predisposed towards certain forms of religious prejudice. Class-based prejudices of different types seem to occur across the spectrum.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:27 am

The prejudice I was referring to was racial/ethnic prejudice yall. I know there are other prejudices out there but I didn't wanna say the word racist too much, so I diversify and say things like bigotry, ethnic hatred, anti (insert group) sentiment, xenophobia and prejudice.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:32 am

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Gravlen wrote:And by that interview, you mean this interview.


"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...
Trump thinks diagnosed cases of covid includes "kids with runny noses"

Now, COVID death tolls have famously included motorcycle accidents... maybe he just got confused?
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Postby Fahran » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:33 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The prejudice I was referring to was racial/ethnic prejudice yall. I know there are other prejudices out there but I didn't wanna say the word racist too much, so I diversify and say things like bigotry, ethnic hatred, anti (insert group) sentiment, xenophobia and prejudice.

Eh, I'd just call it racism to be honest. It's plain and simple.

Oddly enough, immigration from Mexico hasn't really been the principal concern for around a decade. If I'm remembering right, the majority of recent illegal immigration from Latin America has largely been from Central America - countries like Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc. Besides, Mexico has sent its best. My mom is here. :^)

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:34 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...
Trump thinks diagnosed cases of covid includes "kids with runny noses"

Now, COVID death tolls have famously included motorcycle accidents... maybe he just got confused?

Trump? The stable genius who can recognise an elephant? I don't think he gets confused very easily.
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Postby Centai Mal » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:37 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...
Trump thinks diagnosed cases of covid includes "kids with runny noses"

Now, COVID death tolls have famously included motorcycle accidents... maybe he just got confused?

Now, they really haven’t, and have been underreported. Please cite REPUTABLE sources (Fox and InfoWars are not reputable sources)
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:39 am

Cisairse wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:There's alot more prejudice in this country than people wanna admit. It's how we got a president who claimed Mexico is not sending its best people.


There's a lot more prejudice in this country than prejudiced people wanna admit. Everyone else has been shouting it from the rooftops since 1763.


Nope. I used to deny it myself for a long damn time. It wasn't until George Floyd that my view changed.

It's not just racists. There are very real illusions about this country that are drilled into our heads from childhood. I didn't start seeing past it until a few years ago. Some never do. The propaganda machine is very real and powerful.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:42 am

Centai Mal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Now, COVID death tolls have famously included motorcycle accidents... maybe he just got confused?

Now, they really haven’t, and have been underreported. Please cite REPUTABLE sources (Fox and InfoWars are not reputable sources)

I do distinctly remember at least one motorcycle accident being included (and I think it was in Florida). It's not the norm, but I'm pretty sure weird inclusions have happened.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/flori ... vid-death/

I checked, and it did happen, though it was corrected once it was discovered. Notice how Snopes says "Outdated" and not "False".

It does appear to the case, however, that a motorcyclist who was killed in a traffic accident also tested positive for COVID-19, and was initially listed among Florida’s COVID-19-related deaths. But officials from the Florida Department of Health said that person has since been removed from the count.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:45 am

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The prejudice I was referring to was racial/ethnic prejudice yall. I know there are other prejudices out there but I didn't wanna say the word racist too much, so I diversify and say things like bigotry, ethnic hatred, anti (insert group) sentiment, xenophobia and prejudice.

Eh, I'd just call it racism to be honest. It's plain and simple.

Oddly enough, immigration from Mexico hasn't really been the principal concern for around a decade. If I'm remembering right, the majority of recent illegal immigration from Latin America has largely been from Central America - countries like Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc. Besides, Mexico has sent its best. My mom is here. :^)


I've seen more anti latino prejudice these last few years than I have in most of my life. When I was a kid no one disliked me for being Spanish, and the only racial attack I ever suffered was from a black kid that mistaked me for being white (I was fair skinned as a child up till like the beginning of puberty, and I had auburn hair).

These days if I had to list out things that have been said to me:

•A friend of a friend asked him why he "added this spic to the chat."

•A woman spazzed out when I asked her for her pin number for her EBT as my job requires us all to do, but was totally willing to give it to a white worker.

•I had a woman at my other job tell me I should play a gang member in a movie.

•One guy threatened to run me over with the lawn mower I allegedly ride on.

•A guy asked me if I was Mexican and when I told him I was Puerto Rican, he said "oh so you're from another third world shithole then."

I guess I'm fortunate. At least no one tried to kill me.

Could be worse. But nonetheless I don't appreciate the racial slurs and I sure don't appreciate being threatened with violence or being told I should play the role of a cholo in a film. I'm not even Mexican but they don't care obviously. At day's end in America of today, if you appear foreign, some folks will despise you. Sad but true.
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I guarentee you if Lewis had supported Trump, Trump would be there at the inauguration giving the euology like "John was a good friend of mine, and a visionary. He never had ideas of his own, he just went along with whatever I wanted to do."
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Postby Centai Mal » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:48 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Centai Mal wrote:Now, they really haven’t, and have been underreported. Please cite REPUTABLE sources (Fox and InfoWars are not reputable sources)

I do distinctly remember at least one motorcycle accident being included (and I think it was in Florida). It's not the norm, but I'm pretty sure weird inclusions have happened.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/flori ... vid-death/

I checked, and it did happen, though it was corrected once it was discovered. Notice how Snopes says "Outdated" and not "False".

It does appear to the case, however, that a motorcyclist who was killed in a traffic accident also tested positive for COVID-19, and was initially listed among Florida’s COVID-19-related deaths. But officials from the Florida Department of Health said that person has since been removed from the count.

Accidentally included (which this seems it was due to them being removed immediately) vs purposefully included is a huge difference, and you implied the second.

Also, real funny it was in Florida, considering Florida underreported their cases a TON
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:49 am

Centai Mal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I do distinctly remember at least one motorcycle accident being included (and I think it was in Florida). It's not the norm, but I'm pretty sure weird inclusions have happened.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/flori ... vid-death/

I checked, and it did happen, though it was corrected once it was discovered. Notice how Snopes says "Outdated" and not "False".

It does appear to the case, however, that a motorcyclist who was killed in a traffic accident also tested positive for COVID-19, and was initially listed among Florida’s COVID-19-related deaths. But officials from the Florida Department of Health said that person has since been removed from the count.

Accidentally included (which this seems it was due to them being removed immediately) vs purposefully included is a huge difference, and you implied the second.

Also, real funny it was in Florida, considering Florida underreported their cases a TON

I don't think I really implied either. All I said was that it happened.
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Postby Zapato » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:48 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
"I wanted to shut it down in January but they wouldn't let me" ...
Trump thinks diagnosed cases of covid includes "kids with runny noses"

Now, COVID death tolls have famously included a single motorcycle accidents... maybe he just got confused?

Fixed your post.

But yeah, we can all relax now that we know the death toll in the US isn't 155,815, but merely 155,814.


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