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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
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Trump TV will be his main focus, he's going to go after FOX for sure.


I see this is a possibility. The Presidency has kept him from starting another business failure.

Sadly, I'm not so sure this one would be a failure. If he can convince enough of his base to watch, it might not go bad for him.

Would love to see how FOX handles it though.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:58 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I see this is a possibility. The Presidency has kept him from starting another business failure.

Sadly, I'm not so sure this one would be a failure. If he can convince enough of his base to watch, it might not go bad for him.

Would love to see how FOX handles it though.

I would expect Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Tucker Carlson to at least try to jump ship over to Trump TV. It depends on their contracts. Trump will look for other people to enlist, I'm sure there will be a number of volunteers. Maybe that David Portnoy guy from Barstool Sports. They seem like a good match.

Maybe he'll just start up The Apprentice again and call it Who Wants to Be an Acting Cabinet Secretary?
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Postby No State Here » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:59 pm

You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:08 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

I'm sure that's true if you're Donald Trump, meaning, I'm sure he thinks so. A modern-day Horatio Alger up-from-poverty story, just a small loan (of a million bucks) from his father? Nah. Trump strikes me as someone incapable of talking about anything other than himself.
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Postby Jersatia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:13 pm

The two-party system in this country is fucked. I refuse to vote for Biden, but the little voice in the back of my head says that will result with four more years of Trump. I want significant change in this country, but the "elites" have us trapped in this endless election cycle, always picking the lesser evil. When and how does it end? I do not know. Soon I hope.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:18 pm

Jersatia wrote:The two-party system in this country is fucked. I refuse to vote for Biden, but the little voice in the back of my head says that will result with four more years of Trump. I want significant change in this country, but the "elites" have us trapped in this endless election cycle, always picking the lesser evil. When and how does it end? I do not know. Soon I hope.

Alright, but you've expended your political hipster quotient for the day. Pace yourself.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:24 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

Idk, Mike Lindell is pretty interesting too.
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Postby Eahland » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:27 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

He's a useless coddled man-baby who dodged the draft and has expended a significant portion of the finite amount of energy he believes he was born with on playing golf, so that's a definite no.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:33 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today


I've gotta disagree with you on that one, chief. The US has loads of archaeologists, treasure hunters, and Bigfoot seekers who have way crazier/more interesting stories than the Donald.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:37 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today


Think harder?

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:38 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

Idk, Mike Lindell is pretty interesting too.


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Postby Duvniask » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:48 pm

No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

Interesting for the spectator, maybe. He seems incredibly miserable and like he can't be arsed to do any of his presidential duties except as a means to live out his boundless narcissism and get praise from all the sycophants he's surrounded himself with.
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Postby Eahland » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:29 pm

Duvniask wrote:
No State Here wrote:You know now that I think of it, Donald Trump has probably had the most interesting life out of anyone alive in the US today

Interesting for the spectator, maybe. He seems incredibly miserable and like he can't be arsed to do any of his presidential duties except as a means to live out his boundless narcissism and get praise from all the sycophants he's surrounded himself with.

Definitely not interesting for the spectator. I mean, we've seen what Trump thinks is an interesting anecdote to tell about his life. First off, they're made up. Secondly, they're all about getting praised by people who've actually done something with their lives.
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:37 pm

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Kowani wrote:SCOTUS sides with the Trump Administration, 5-4, allows military funds to be used to construct border wall.


Mmm, can't wait for Democrats to appropriate military funds to nationalize industry.


Lmao, you know they won't. They're just as much the riding horse of Big Business as the Republicans are.

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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm

If the Republicans take the $600 UI out, after having the corporate bailout continue via the Federal Reserve, voters better make them suffer come November.

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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:24 am

A ton of people who support or supported Trump knew ahead of time that he was racist (like myself) but this was never a flaw but rather a feature. Now it just isn't enough. Even though there likely won't be another President who'll be of like mindedness on this, he's just been too disasterously bad for the country to where it'd be irresponsible to continue backing him. There is just too little upside to be had in the midst of everything declining or having collapsed. He failed completely on Coronavirus which in turn wrecked the economy more than had to be the case.

Donald Trump on record as being classist or in favor of housing discrimination in a July 29th tweet:

"I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood. Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!"
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:29 am

Saiwania wrote:A ton of people who support or supported Trump knew ahead of time that he was racist (like myself) but this was never a flaw but rather a feature. Now it just isn't enough. Even though there likely won't be another President who'll be of like mindedness on this, he's just been too disasterously bad for the country to where it'd be irresponsible to continue backing him. There is just too little upside to be had in the midst of everything declining or having collapsed. He failed completely on Coronavirus.

Donald Trump on record as being classist or in favor of housing discrimination in a July 29th tweet:

"I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood. Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!"

Jesus Christ, that’s dispicable. I mean, sure, what Trump said was bad. But what you said, your beliefs, ae horrific beyond words. Disgusting.

And even now, you don’t realise that his racism is central to why he failed you here.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:54 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Jesus Christ, that’s dispicable. I mean, sure, what Trump said was bad. But what you said, your beliefs, ae horrific beyond words. Disgusting. And even now, you don’t realise that his racism is central to why he failed you here.


The real world is usually too complicated, so a safer assumption is that some people will win and others will lose out from my perspective. It is nonetheless a valid complaint that housing for lower incomes lowers property values for those who live nearby generally speaking. But its also true that its impossible to push out poor people indefinitely. That the poor need some place to live anywhere they happen to be- and that as a class, they'll always exist given the nature of inequality.

It's not a moral failing to be poor. Mathematically, it is probably easier to become poor than to become rich. Its easy to be stupid/wreckless with regards to money but harder to be wise/prudent enough with it to really build lots of wealth (as opposed to simply being middle class or doing well on average) given so many expenses/outside pressures getting in the way of that or resulting in more spending than saving or investing. In the same measure, it isn't just to blame all of the world's problems on those who're better off. Maybe they just made better financial decisions or had better opportunities.

Who gets what, is largely zero sum. If you're too inclusive, it inherently means less for you. Why should or would anyone go against their self interests? Racism isn't always pretty but race is real nonetheless, and the way of the world is that we'll never ever get to a situation where every group will benefit equally.

I don't think I'm asking too much in wanting my racial group to keep being in the majority and to not want my country to become too diverse/multicultural and for there to be low to no immigration I disapprove of. And for the country to be more nationalism heavy (although not required, I see it as a plus). People who stand for the opposite things, I'm going to be honest- they'll be at an impasse with me and for that scenario: only one of us is going to win out for better or for worse. The course of history is that one will rise to take over whilst the other will come to be vanquished over the long run.

We all just strive for what we perceive to be the best state of affairs. I know the US is stolen land but fully accept it. The native Americans I don't see as ever getting it back, but it's not too late to ensure that the current majority stays put in status and leverage so far as charting the course of the nation.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:33 am

Guess what was delayed in favour of a completely useless set of fences?
The Navy wanted to buy the next America, the unnamed LHA-9, in 2024. Congress wanted to start construction in 2023 and, in 2019, appropriated $650 million to begin paying the $3.9-billion tab. But the administration of Pres. Donald Trump in early 2020 diverted that $650 million in order to pay for a few miles of the administration’s wall on the southern U.S. border.
Yes the United States Navy. The Navy that's currently fighting the Chinese... in a war where landing ships are kinda important. Now the question is: What else was delayed/cancelled in favour of Donald Trump's epeen project? F-35 integration? The new aircraft carrier? Maintenance for the USAF?
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:41 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Guess what was delayed in favour of a completely useless set of fences?
The Navy wanted to buy the next America, the unnamed LHA-9, in 2024. Congress wanted to start construction in 2023 and, in 2019, appropriated $650 million to begin paying the $3.9-billion tab. But the administration of Pres. Donald Trump in early 2020 diverted that $650 million in order to pay for a few miles of the administration’s wall on the southern U.S. border.
Yes the United States Navy. The Navy that's currently fighting the Chinese... in a war where landing ships are kinda important. Now the question is: What else was delayed/cancelled in favour of Donald Trump's epeen project? F-35 integration? The new aircraft carrier? Maintenance for the USAF?


I'm completely okay with this.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:42 am

Anti Defense League wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Guess what was delayed in favour of a completely useless set of fences?
Yes the United States Navy. The Navy that's currently fighting the Chinese... in a war where landing ships are kinda important. Now the question is: What else was delayed/cancelled in favour of Donald Trump's epeen project? F-35 integration? The new aircraft carrier? Maintenance for the USAF?


I'm completely okay with this.

A guy who thinks there was nothing wrong with chattel slavery in the States is pro-slaver. Quelle suprise.
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:45 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Anti Defense League wrote:
I'm completely okay with this.

A guy who thinks there was nothing wrong with chattel slavery in the States is pro-slaver. Quelle suprise.


Quite a leap to come to that from "I'm completely okay with this."

Perhaps you need to read it again?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:47 am

Anti Defense League wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A guy who thinks there was nothing wrong with chattel slavery in the States is pro-slaver. Quelle suprise.


Quite a leap to come to that from "I'm completely okay with this."

Perhaps you need to read it again?

You evidently believe that the slaver state creating its own Greater Asiatic-African Co-Prosperity Sphere is less of a threat than a few thousand destitute immigrants. If you can explain this act of moral treason do so now.
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:48 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Anti Defense League wrote:
Quite a leap to come to that from "I'm completely okay with this."

Perhaps you need to read it again?

You evidently believe that the slaver state creating its own Greater Asiatic-African Co-Prosperity Sphere is less of a threat than a few thousand destitute immigrants. If you can explain this act of moral treason do so now.


First, explain to me how you know my thoughts. As I said, maybe you need to read that again. :)

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:36 am

Anti Defense League wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You evidently believe that the slaver state creating its own Greater Asiatic-African Co-Prosperity Sphere is less of a threat than a few thousand destitute immigrants. If you can explain this act of moral treason do so now.


First, explain to me how you know my thoughts. As I said, maybe you need to read that again. :)


So why are you OK with slashing the military budget purely to feed Trump's ego rather than to fund actually worthy causes?
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