MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Kowani]

Wait, seriously?

Yeah. Twitter's imminent demise was one of the most talked about topics in the tech world in late 2014 to early 2015. The election changed it up completely.

Oh, wow.

[Nakena]

Wait, seriously?

Yeah. Twitter's imminent demise was one of the most talked about topics in the tech world in late 2014 to early 2015. The election changed it up completely.

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Because of Trump or the Russian bots?

Trump.

They started banning a lot of Trump supporters (such as Milo) and later alt-righters though in 2016 and onwards.

I somehow doubt the numbers were important though in the great picture of things.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah. Twitter's imminent demise was one of the most talked about topics in the tech world in late 2014 to early 2015. The election changed it up completely.

Oh, wow.

On the other hand, the tech world likes to talk about various company's imminent demise as often as Rock and Roll is considered dead. Every company is about to collapse to someone in Silicon Valley. That's why their looking for a VC for their new start up.

[Cisairse]

Yeah. Twitter's imminent demise was one of the most talked about topics in the tech world in late 2014 to early 2015. The election changed it up completely.

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Trump.

They started banning a lot of Trump supporters (such as Milo) and later alt-righters though in 2016 and onwards.

I somehow doubt the numbers were important though in the great picture of things.

It's insane to me that we're introducing Milo now as a "Trump supporter" instead of as a "pedophile."

[Kowani]

They started banning a lot of Trump supporters (such as Milo) and later alt-righters though in 2016 and onwards.

I somehow doubt the numbers were important though in the great picture of things.

It's insane to me that we're introducing Milo now as a "Trump supporter" instead of as a "pedophile."

Framing is important, after all.

[The Black Forrest]

Yeah. Twitter's imminent demise was one of the most talked about topics in the tech world in late 2014 to early 2015. The election changed it up completely.

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Trump.

They started banning a lot of Trump supporters (such as Milo) and later alt-righters though in 2016 and onwards.

I somehow doubt the numbers were important though in the great picture of things.

Milo earned his ban though. Leading that trolling effort against that actress.....

[Kowani]

They started banning a lot of Trump supporters (such as Milo) and later alt-righters though in 2016 and onwards.

I somehow doubt the numbers were important though in the great picture of things.

Milo earned his ban though. Leading that trolling effort against that actress.....

Milo is proof that deplatforming works, change my mind.

[The Black Forrest]

Milo earned his ban though. Leading that trolling effort against that actress.....

Milo is proof that deplatforming works, change my mind.

He also had that book deal. They canceled it just as it was going to be published.

[Kowani]

Milo is proof that deplatforming works, change my mind.

He also had that book deal. They canceled it just as it was going to be published.

Like I said: It works.

[The Emerald Legion]

He also had that book deal. They canceled it just as it was going to be published.

Like I said: It works.

Not really? It works if the target doesn't actually have a fan base willing to follow them into the woods.

[Juristonia]

Like I said: It works.

Not really? It works if the target doesn't actually have a fan base willing to follow them into the woods.

..So it works.
Unless you're claiming that Milo's reach and influence haven't been greatly diminished, in which case, I can't wait for the hilarious reasoning I'm sure you have for thinking so.

[Zurkerx]

So, Trump was supposed to throw a pitch at a Yankees game in August (on the 15th) but the cancelled it. I see why now: There was no game scheduled, which surprised Yankee and White House Officials.

WASHINGTON — An hour before Dr. Anthony S. Fauci threw the first pitch at the season opener between the New York Yankees and the Washington Nationals, President Trump stood on the briefing room stage at the White House and declared that he, too, had been invited to throw out his own opening pitch.

“Randy Levine is a great friend of mine from the Yankees,” Mr. Trump, referring to the president of the baseball team, told reporters on Thursday as Dr. Fauci was preparing to take the mound. “And he asked me to throw out the first pitch, and I think I’m doing that on Aug. 15 at Yankee Stadium.”

There was one problem: Mr. Trump had not actually been invited on that day by the Yankees, according to one person with knowledge of Mr. Trump’s schedule. His announcement surprised both Yankees officials and the White House staff.

But Mr. Trump had been so annoyed by Dr. Fauci’s turn in the limelight, an official familiar with his reaction said, that he had directed his aides to call Yankees officials and make good on a longtime standing offer from Mr. Levine to throw out an opening pitch. No date was ever finalized.

After the president’s announcement, White House aides scrambled to let the team know that he was actually booked on Aug. 15, although they have not said what he plans to do. Over the weekend, Mr. Trump officially canceled.

“Because of my strong focus on the China Virus, including scheduled meetings on Vaccines, our economy and much else, I won’t be able to be in New York to throw out the opening pitch for the @Yankees on August 15,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter on Sunday, using a racist name for the coronavirus. “We will make it later in the season!”

And so continues the tense relationship between Mr. Trump, a president who hates sharing media attention, and Dr. Fauci, a renowned infectious disease expert who doesn’t mind the spotlight. He appeared this month in a spread in InStyle magazine, lounging (fully clothed) poolside.

To be sure, there are bigger problems on either man’s plate: Mr. Trump is struggling to explain his administration’s missteps on a pandemic that has killed more than 148,000 Americans. Dr. Fauci is trying to assert himself as a public health-minded voice of an administration that seems to have little interest in science and sometimes even less interest in him.

Both men are baseball fans. Mr. Trump grew up playing the sport, and Dr. Fauci, with his Washington Nationals-themed coronavirus mask, has nearly reached alternate mascot status. Both are ostensibly too busy to be bogged down with baseball rivalries, but this is not the first time Mr. Trump has made such a request to fend off a potential upstaging.

In April, the day before Vice President Mike Pence was to speak at the Air Force commencement ceremony in Colorado, Mr. Trump suddenly announced that he would be speaking at West Point. That was news to officials at West Point.

Last week, Dr. Fauci was determined to come to the Nationals mound prepared. Growing up in Brooklyn, he played shortstop on a local Catholic youth team. Days before the pitch on Thursday, he went to Horace Mann, an elementary school in northwest Washington, to rehearse on the lawn.

“I pitched and pitched,” he said in an interview on Monday. “I threw my arm out. I hadn’t thrown a baseball literally in decades. After I practiced, my arm was hanging around my feet.”

But he said he made a fatal error. Without a baseball field at the school to practice on, he had to measure 60 feet — the distance from a major-league mound to home plate — himself, and accidentally came up about 20 feet short.

Once Dr. Fauci arrived on the mound at Nationals Park, he realized the vast expanse, and his visit went south. He cocked his arm back only slightly, crooked, and flung the ball diagonally into the grass, far from Sean Doolittle, the Nationals player assigned to catch the pitch.

“He looked to me like he was like 500 feet away. That made me throw it much harder than I had been practicing,” Dr. Fauci said. “I completely miscalculated the distance from the mound.”

Dr. Fauci said his invitation from the Nationals came weeks ago as a thank you from Ted Lerner’s family, which owns the team, after he advised them and club officials on the correct protocols for coronavirus testing and staying safe while playing.

Dr. Fauci’s broadcast appearances are generally controlled by the White House, but the appearance at Nationals Park did not have to go through the usual clearance process at the National Institutes of Health, which takes in his other news media and event requests.

Asked whether he had advice if Mr. Trump were able to confirm a date with the Yankees, Dr. Fauci said the president should be sure to “throw high” and with “a big loft.”

“The worst thing to do is bounce it like I did,” he said.

Off the baseball field, Dr. Fauci’s star turn has not gone over as well in the White House.

In past weeks, he has questioned senior administration officials about the effort to curb his television appearances and criticized other officials who have made disparaging remarks about him.

“I think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do, because it’s only reflecting negatively on them,” Dr. Fauci said this month of White House aides, including Peter Navarro, Mr. Trump’s trade adviser, who wrote an op-ed questioning Dr. Fauci’s credibility.

As the prominence of the coronavirus task force faded in recent weeks, Dr. Fauci was left out of a new group of White House officials that meets on the virus, led by Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, and Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the coronavirus response coordinator.

Oh, and this mishap you're wondering how he can make a mistake like this? Well, it was because of ego, annoyance, and jealousy:

There was one problem: Mr. Trump had not actually been invited on that day by the Yankees, according to one person with knowledge of Mr. Trump’s schedule. His announcement surprised both Yankees officials and the White House staff.

But Mr. Trump had been so annoyed by Dr. Fauci’s turn in the limelight, an official familiar with his reaction said, that he had directed his aides to call Yankees officials and make good on a longtime standing offer from Mr. Levine to throw out an opening pitch. No date was ever finalized.

What a great President...

[Nakena]

So, Trump was supposed to throw a pitch at a Yankees game in August (on the 15th) but the cancelled it. I see why now: There was no game scheduled, which surprised Yankee and White House Officials.

WASHINGTON — An hour before Dr. Anthony S. Fauci threw the first pitch at the season opener between the New York Yankees and the Washington Nationals, President Trump stood on the briefing room stage at the White House and declared that he, too, had been invited to throw out his own opening pitch.

“Randy Levine is a great friend of mine from the Yankees,” Mr. Trump, referring to the president of the baseball team, told reporters on Thursday as Dr. Fauci was preparing to take the mound. “And he asked me to throw out the first pitch, and I think I’m doing that on Aug. 15 at Yankee Stadium.”

There was one problem: Mr. Trump had not actually been invited on that day by the Yankees, according to one person with knowledge of Mr. Trump’s schedule. His announcement surprised both Yankees officials and the White House staff.

But Mr. Trump had been so annoyed by Dr. Fauci’s turn in the limelight, an official familiar with his reaction said, that he had directed his aides to call Yankees officials and make good on a longtime standing offer from Mr. Levine to throw out an opening pitch. No date was ever finalized.

After the president’s announcement, White House aides scrambled to let the team know that he was actually booked on Aug. 15, although they have not said what he plans to do. Over the weekend, Mr. Trump officially canceled.

“Because of my strong focus on the China Virus, including scheduled meetings on Vaccines, our economy and much else, I won’t be able to be in New York to throw out the opening pitch for the @Yankees on August 15,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter on Sunday, using a racist name for the coronavirus. “We will make it later in the season!”

And so continues the tense relationship between Mr. Trump, a president who hates sharing media attention, and Dr. Fauci, a renowned infectious disease expert who doesn’t mind the spotlight. He appeared this month in a spread in InStyle magazine, lounging (fully clothed) poolside.

To be sure, there are bigger problems on either man’s plate: Mr. Trump is struggling to explain his administration’s missteps on a pandemic that has killed more than 148,000 Americans. Dr. Fauci is trying to assert himself as a public health-minded voice of an administration that seems to have little interest in science and sometimes even less interest in him.

Both men are baseball fans. Mr. Trump grew up playing the sport, and Dr. Fauci, with his Washington Nationals-themed coronavirus mask, has nearly reached alternate mascot status. Both are ostensibly too busy to be bogged down with baseball rivalries, but this is not the first time Mr. Trump has made such a request to fend off a potential upstaging.

In April, the day before Vice President Mike Pence was to speak at the Air Force commencement ceremony in Colorado, Mr. Trump suddenly announced that he would be speaking at West Point. That was news to officials at West Point.

Last week, Dr. Fauci was determined to come to the Nationals mound prepared. Growing up in Brooklyn, he played shortstop on a local Catholic youth team. Days before the pitch on Thursday, he went to Horace Mann, an elementary school in northwest Washington, to rehearse on the lawn.

“I pitched and pitched,” he said in an interview on Monday. “I threw my arm out. I hadn’t thrown a baseball literally in decades. After I practiced, my arm was hanging around my feet.”

But he said he made a fatal error. Without a baseball field at the school to practice on, he had to measure 60 feet — the distance from a major-league mound to home plate — himself, and accidentally came up about 20 feet short.

Once Dr. Fauci arrived on the mound at Nationals Park, he realized the vast expanse, and his visit went south. He cocked his arm back only slightly, crooked, and flung the ball diagonally into the grass, far from Sean Doolittle, the Nationals player assigned to catch the pitch.

“He looked to me like he was like 500 feet away. That made me throw it much harder than I had been practicing,” Dr. Fauci said. “I completely miscalculated the distance from the mound.”

Dr. Fauci said his invitation from the Nationals came weeks ago as a thank you from Ted Lerner’s family, which owns the team, after he advised them and club officials on the correct protocols for coronavirus testing and staying safe while playing.

Dr. Fauci’s broadcast appearances are generally controlled by the White House, but the appearance at Nationals Park did not have to go through the usual clearance process at the National Institutes of Health, which takes in his other news media and event requests.

Asked whether he had advice if Mr. Trump were able to confirm a date with the Yankees, Dr. Fauci said the president should be sure to “throw high” and with “a big loft.”

“The worst thing to do is bounce it like I did,” he said.

Off the baseball field, Dr. Fauci’s star turn has not gone over as well in the White House.

In past weeks, he has questioned senior administration officials about the effort to curb his television appearances and criticized other officials who have made disparaging remarks about him.

“I think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do, because it’s only reflecting negatively on them,” Dr. Fauci said this month of White House aides, including Peter Navarro, Mr. Trump’s trade adviser, who wrote an op-ed questioning Dr. Fauci’s credibility.

As the prominence of the coronavirus task force faded in recent weeks, Dr. Fauci was left out of a new group of White House officials that meets on the virus, led by Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, and Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the coronavirus response coordinator.

Oh, and this mishap you're wondering how he can make a mistake like this? Well, it was because of ego, annoyance, and jealousy:

There was one problem: Mr. Trump had not actually been invited on that day by the Yankees, according to one person with knowledge of Mr. Trump’s schedule. His announcement surprised both Yankees officials and the White House staff.

But Mr. Trump had been so annoyed by Dr. Fauci’s turn in the limelight, an official familiar with his reaction said, that he had directed his aides to call Yankees officials and make good on a longtime standing offer from Mr. Levine to throw out an opening pitch. No date was ever finalized.

What a great President...

At first sight i wasn't sure if it was from the Onion or not.

[The Emerald Legion]

Not really? It works if the target doesn't actually have a fan base willing to follow them into the woods.

..So it works.
Unless you're claiming that Milo's reach and influence haven't been greatly diminished, in which case, I can't wait for the hilarious reasoning I'm sure you have for thinking so.

Milo's reach was diminished because he lost his fan base, meaning nobody cares what he had to say and he had no pull to just set up elsewhere.

Or are you arguing that Alex Jones was successfully deplatformed despite it all?

[Aureumterra]

Sure they would. From the outside.

I'd give it three weeks until it is completely covered in advertisements for penis enlargements.

Has the quality of debate on this board degraded lately?

[Nakena]

I'd give it three weeks until it is completely covered in advertisements for penis enlargements.

Has the quality of debate on this board degraded lately?

Yes.

[The Black Forrest]

Like I said: It works.

Not really? It works if the target doesn't actually have a fan base willing to follow them into the woods.

Sure it does. Especially if the person announced he was broke. Which he has.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I'd give it three weeks until it is completely covered in advertisements for penis enlargements.

Has the quality of debate on this board degraded lately?

It degraded when mods got rid of quote pyramids. If you can't see the strand of conversation you're participating in, all in one place, of course it degenerates. You're no longer arguing about the same thing as three or four posts before? It's barely recognizable as "debate".

Just one more level would make a big difference. Or if they could put two, but only in the post composition box ... the forum would be no more cluttered by "pyramids" but anyone who cared to, could see more of the strand they're contributing to.

[Juristonia]

Milo's reach was diminished because he lost his fan base, meaning nobody cares what he had to say and he had no pull to just set up elsewhere.

Or are you arguing that Alex Jones was successfully deplatformed despite it all?

..Yeah, after he had no real platform left.
It's hard to keep fans if the stuff you're spouting isn't easily available to people.
That's how it works. This really isn't that complicated.

And yes, I'm absolutely arguing that Jones' popularity has diminished. It has for a while now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/technology/alex-jones-infowars-bans-traffic.html

[The Emerald Legion]

Not really? It works if the target doesn't actually have a fan base willing to follow them into the woods.

Sure it does. Especially if the person announced he was broke. Which he has.

You're, metaphorically speaking, declaring the great success of your combat technique because you beat the shit out of a blind paraplegic.

[Nakena]

Has the quality of debate on this board degraded lately?

It degraded when mods got rid of quote pyramids. If you can't see the strand of conversation you're participating in, all in one place, of course it degenerates. You're no longer arguing about the same thing as three or four posts before? It's barely recognizable as "debate".

Just one more level would make a big difference. Or if they could put two, but only in the post composition box ... the forum would be no more cluttered by "pyramids" but anyone who cared to, could see more of the strand they're contributing to.

I think the mods can't change that only admins can in phpBB. I am not sure if its a simple setting or deeper hidden in the code. But you could start a petition in technical to her most serene goddess [Violet]

[The Black Forrest]

Sure it does. Especially if the person announced he was broke. Which he has.

You're, metaphorically speaking, declaring the great success of your combat technique because you beat the shit out of a blind paraplegic.

Now now don’t try to derail. Again; Milo announced he was broke after his bans and lost deals.

[The Emerald Legion]

Milo's reach was diminished because he lost his fan base, meaning nobody cares what he had to say and he had no pull to just set up elsewhere.

Or are you arguing that Alex Jones was successfully deplatformed despite it all?

..Yeah, after he had no real platform left.
It's hard to keep fans if the stuff you're spouting isn't easily available to people.
That's how it works. This really isn't that complicated.

And yes, I'm absolutely arguing that Jones' popularity has diminished. It has for a while now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/technology/alex-jones-infowars-bans-traffic.html

A.) NYTimes is a terrible source.

B.) They admit they didn't cover several of his other platforms. They don't admit that they didn't do that because that would fuck up their narrative, but we can only expect so much honesty.

[The Black Forrest]

..Yeah, after he had no real platform left.
It's hard to keep fans if the stuff you're spouting isn't easily available to people.
That's how it works. This really isn't that complicated.

And yes, I'm absolutely arguing that Jones' popularity has diminished. It has for a while now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/technology/alex-jones-infowars-bans-traffic.html

A.) NYTimes is a terrible source.

B.) They admit they didn't cover several of his other platforms. They don't admit that they didn't do that because that would fuck up their narrative, but we can only expect so much honesty.

A) So what the printed was false?

B) What has that got to do with what they printed?

[Black Pine]

You're, metaphorically speaking, declaring the great success of your combat technique because you beat the shit out of a blind paraplegic.

Now now don’t try to derail. Again; Milo announced he was broke after his bans and lost deals.

Damn, talking about Milo really takes me back! I wonder what he's up to now. Is he still backing Trump (albeit with a reduced fanbase)??