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Thousands Of CEOs Announce They Support Trump In Hopes Of Triggering A Boycott


Anyone else think Babylon Bee is better than actual news these days?
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No State Here wrote:Thousands Of CEOs Announce They Support Trump In Hopes Of Triggering A Boycott


Anyone else think Babylon Bee is better than actual news these days?

Oh, Right-Wing Onion.
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Gormwood wrote:
No State Here wrote:Thousands Of CEOs Announce They Support Trump In Hopes Of Triggering A Boycott


Anyone else think Babylon Bee is better than actual news these days?

Oh, Right-Wing Onion.

C’mon Gormwood, you know better than to find a political bias in satire. Satire
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:26 am

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Gormwood wrote:Oh, Right-Wing Onion.

C’mon Gormwood, you know better than to find a political bias in satire. Satire


Who said anything about bias? Political leanings in satire just inform what they chose to satirise.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:33 am

Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:54 am

Looks like Donnie's still desperate to hide the tax records for some reason.

Trump Raises New Objections to Subpoena Seeking His Tax Returns

Days after the U.S. Supreme Court delivered a defeat to President Trump, clearing the way for the Manhattan district attorney to seek his tax returns, his lawyers on Wednesday renewed their efforts to block or at least narrow access to the records.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers wrote to the federal judge in Manhattan who originally presided over the case, saying they planned to argue that the district attorney’s subpoena seeking eight years of his corporate and personal tax returns was too broad and politically motivated.

The filing came less than a week after the Supreme Court struck down Mr. Trump’s previous argument — that the subpoena was invalid because a sitting president could not be criminally investigated.

In the new filing, Mr. Trump’s lawyers noted that the high court’s decision allowed him to raise other objections: that the subpoena was “motivated by a desire to harass or is conducted in bad faith,” and that it would impede his constitutional duties.

The president and the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., a Democrat, have been locked in a battle over the records for almost a year.

The district attorney issued the subpoena to the president’s accounting firm last August, seeking records dating to 2011 as part of an investigation into hush-money payments made to an adult film actress who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. The president has denied the affair.

Mr. Trump fought the request for his financial records, arguing that presidents were immune from state criminal investigations.

On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected his position by a 7-to-2 vote, but it left open the possibility that he could raise new arguments against Mr. Vance’s subpoena in the lower court.

No matter who ultimately wins the battle, it is unlikely that Mr. Trump’s financial records will become public any time soon. If they are turned over to prosecutors, they will remain shielded under grand jury secrecy and may emerge only if charges are brought and they are introduced as evidence at a trial.

The flurry of legal activity over how quickly Mr. Vance would be able to access some or all of the records — and to what extent Mr. Trump could block them — came after the lower-court judge, Victor Marrero, asked both sides to inform him of whether further action was needed in light of the Supreme Court’s landmark decision.

In a response on Wednesday, Mr. Trump’s lawyers said they planned to argue that the subpoena should be blocked, while Mr. Vance’s office told the judge that the issues had largely been decided. The two sides wrote to the judge in a joint letter outlining their positions.

Judge Marrero is set to hold a hearing on Thursday to discuss a schedule for further arguments. He is not expected to immediately rule on the merits of either side’s position on the subpoena itself.

Last October, Judge Marrero, in a 75-page opinion, rejected Mr. Trump’s initial argument that he was immune from all investigation, calling it “repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values.”

After a federal appeals court panel unanimously upheld the judge’s decision, the president sought review in the Supreme Court.

After the Supreme Court decision was announced last week, Mr. Vance, in a statement, called the ruling “a tremendous victory for our nation’s system of justice.” He said his office’s investigation, which had been delayed for almost a year by the president’s legal challenge, would resume.

The president’s lawyers did not offer much detail about the grounds for their new objections in the filing on Wednesday, but said they were likely to pursue several arguments about the subpoena’s scope and purpose.

Mr. Vance’s office made clear that it intended to push back against Mr. Trump’s position. Citing Judge Marrero’s opinion last October, it argued that he had found “no demonstrated bad faith” or harassment in the decision to issue the grand jury subpoena.

Mr. Vance’s prosecutors also said Judge Marrero had rejected the president’s claim that there was “any evidence of a ‘secondary motive’ that goes beyond good-faith enforcement of the criminal laws.”

The dispute emerged out of the case of Michael D. Cohen, the president’s onetime lawyer, who paid the adult film actress Stormy Daniels $130,000 to buy her silence during the 2016 presidential campaign. He later pleaded guilty to federal campaign finance violations for his role in that deal and another hush-money payment.

Mr. Cohen, who is serving a three-year sentence at a federal prison in Otisville, N.Y., implicated the president, saying in court that he had acted on Mr. Trump’s orders.

After federal prosecutors concluded their investigation last year, Mr. Vance’s office began examining whether New York State laws had been broken when Mr. Trump and his company, the Trump Organization, reimbursed Mr. Cohen. The subpoena was issued as part of that inquiry.

On Wednesday, Mr. Vance’s office asked the judge to order Mr. Trump to file any additional arguments quickly in light of the risk of losing evidence “as a result of fading memories or lost documents,” or the possibility that statutes of limitations would expire.

“If the president has anything left to say,” Mr. Vance’s office wrote, “the ball is now in his court.”
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:58 am

Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

No taste in beans, Bushes Baked Beans is your companion through the End of Days. :D

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:59 am

Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

this is great for so many reasons

1) That isn't a picture of Ivana Trump
2) Ivana Trump isn't the First Lady
3) That isn't a picture of the First Lady
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:01 am

Cisairse wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

this is great for so many reasons

1) That isn't a picture of Ivana Trump
2) Ivana Trump isn't the First Lady
3) That isn't a picture of the First Lady

I mean Trump did imply he wants to fuck his daughter.
Also I googled Ivana Trump and she looks like the most Karenist Karen I've ever seen.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:21 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.

They'll really come to understand social distancing. Luckily, the Republican Convention will be held outdoors.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:22 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.

They'll really come to understand social distancing. Luckily, the Republican Convention will be held outdoors.

In Florida in the summer...brilliant.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:23 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They'll really come to understand social distancing. Luckily, the Republican Convention will be held outdoors.

In Florida in the summer...brilliant.

Yes, but if they've been eating beans between now and then ...
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:24 am

Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

if the giant majority of DPRK doesn't have electricity why do they have twitter?
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.

What A Gas!
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:34 am

"We expected something more than constant heckling from the man who was supposed to be our leader" - Republican governor Larry Hogan on how Trump shit the bed completely when Maryland needed federal help.

He also talks about how the White House was saying one thing publicly and another thing to governors.

We brought in Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who was already widely admired but whose awesome knowledge and straight-talking style hadn’t yet made him a national rock star; CDC head Robert Redfield; Ken Cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of homeland security; Jay Butler, the CDC’s deputy director for infectious diseases; and Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the Department of Health and Human Services.

They hit us with detailed presentations and the unfiltered truth, as well as it was known then. I remember hearing many dire claims: “This could be catastrophic. . . . The death toll could be significant. . . . Much more contagious than SARS. . . . Testing will be crucial. . . . You have to follow the science — that’s where the answers lie.”

It was jarring, the huge contrast between the experts’ warnings and the president’s public dismissals. Weren’t these the people the White House was consulting about the virus? What made the briefing even more chilling was its clear, factual tone. It was a harrowing warning of an imminent national threat, and we took it seriously — at least most of us did. It was enough to convince almost all the governors that this epidemic was going to be worse than most people realized.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:36 am

Gravlen wrote:"We expected something more than constant heckling from the man who was supposed to be our leader" - Republican governor Larry Hogan on how Trump shit the bed completely when Maryland needed federal help.

He also talks about how the White House was saying one thing publicly and another thing to governors.

We brought in Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who was already widely admired but whose awesome knowledge and straight-talking style hadn’t yet made him a national rock star; CDC head Robert Redfield; Ken Cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of homeland security; Jay Butler, the CDC’s deputy director for infectious diseases; and Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the Department of Health and Human Services.

They hit us with detailed presentations and the unfiltered truth, as well as it was known then. I remember hearing many dire claims: “This could be catastrophic. . . . The death toll could be significant. . . . Much more contagious than SARS. . . . Testing will be crucial. . . . You have to follow the science — that’s where the answers lie.”

It was jarring, the huge contrast between the experts’ warnings and the president’s public dismissals. Weren’t these the people the White House was consulting about the virus? What made the briefing even more chilling was its clear, factual tone. It was a harrowing warning of an imminent national threat, and we took it seriously — at least most of us did. It was enough to convince almost all the governors that this epidemic was going to be worse than most people realized.

No doubt Too Much And Not Enough sheds light on this taste of sociopathy.
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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
I was going to say

FIND SOMETING NEW

but this caption by DPRK News Service was just... right.

Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.

That’ll be great for business
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:42 am

No State Here wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Gonna be real funny when conservatives start furiously eating nothing but tins of beans. To own the libs.

That’ll be great for business

Happy indeed shall be the beanmongers.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:44 am

Gravlen wrote:"We expected something more than constant heckling from the man who was supposed to be our leader" - Republican governor Larry Hogan on how Trump shit the bed completely when Maryland needed federal help.

He also talks about how the White House was saying one thing publicly and another thing to governors.

We brought in Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who was already widely admired but whose awesome knowledge and straight-talking style hadn’t yet made him a national rock star; CDC head Robert Redfield; Ken Cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of homeland security; Jay Butler, the CDC’s deputy director for infectious diseases; and Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the Department of Health and Human Services.

They hit us with detailed presentations and the unfiltered truth, as well as it was known then. I remember hearing many dire claims: “This could be catastrophic. . . . The death toll could be significant. . . . Much more contagious than SARS. . . . Testing will be crucial. . . . You have to follow the science — that’s where the answers lie.”

It was jarring, the huge contrast between the experts’ warnings and the president’s public dismissals. Weren’t these the people the White House was consulting about the virus? What made the briefing even more chilling was its clear, factual tone. It was a harrowing warning of an imminent national threat, and we took it seriously — at least most of us did. It was enough to convince almost all the governors that this epidemic was going to be worse than most people realized.

The real impact of Donald "I don't take responsibility" Trump.
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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:44 am

It’s kind of like the opposite of when Trump said he hates Nike, so all the hippies in New York started buying Nike stuff
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:51 am

No State Here wrote:It’s kind of like the opposite of when Trump said he hates Nike, so all the hippies in New York started buying Nike stuff

Nike made crazy money from that shit. All the free advertising of viral videos of people destroying their Nike shoes. The people buying Nikes to own the MAGA crowd. The MAGA crowd quietly buying new pairs of Nikes to replace the ones they destroyed. Biiiiiig money.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
No State Here wrote:It’s kind of like the opposite of when Trump said he hates Nike, so all the hippies in New York started buying Nike stuff

Nike made crazy money from that shit. All the free advertising of viral videos of people destroying their Nike shoes. The people buying Nikes to own the MAGA crowd. The MAGA crowd quietly buying new pairs of Nikes to replace the ones they destroyed. Biiiiiig money.

Chik-Fil-A did good as well.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:54 am

Gormwood wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nike made crazy money from that shit. All the free advertising of viral videos of people destroying their Nike shoes. The people buying Nikes to own the MAGA crowd. The MAGA crowd quietly buying new pairs of Nikes to replace the ones they destroyed. Biiiiiig money.

Chik-Fil-A did good as well.

Yep. Outrage marketing works.
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