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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:32 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
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Trump is calling dems treasonous while defending statues to traitors.

Irony. This guy is a fucking disgrace.


Some adviser told him to wrap himself in the flag not realizing he liked the confederate one best. So he's all wrapped up in it.


Oh give him a break. He saw the red, white, and blue and assumed it was the US flag.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Some adviser told him to wrap himself in the flag not realizing he liked the confederate one best. So he's all wrapped up in it.


Oh give him a break. He saw the red, white, and blue and assumed it was the US flag.

He saw very fine people waving them so he guessed that was the right one.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:35 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Some adviser told him to wrap himself in the flag not realizing he liked the confederate one best. So he's all wrapped up in it.


Oh give him a break. He saw the red, white, and blue and assumed it was the US flag.


Wait did Trump actually do this?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:36 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh give him a break. He saw the red, white, and blue and assumed it was the US flag.


Wait did Trump actually do this?


:D. Turn your sarcasm detector on. :p
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:40 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Trump is calling dems treasonous while defending statues to traitors.

Irony. This guy is a fucking disgrace.


Some adviser told him to wrap himself in the flag not realizing he liked the confederate one best. So he's all wrapped up in it.


Do note that wrapping oneself in a flag counts as desecration.
So him wrapping himself in the confederate one would be good (tm).
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:41 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/ApPBsIx

Hehehe.


Ok that made me laugh.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:50 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Some adviser told him to wrap himself in the flag not realizing he liked the confederate one best. So he's all wrapped up in it.


Do note that wrapping oneself in a flag counts as desecration.
So him wrapping himself in the confederate one would be good (tm).

So I got thinking.
Is Trump hugging the Stars and Stripes as he has done on a fair few occasions flag desecration?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:50 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Do note that wrapping oneself in a flag counts as desecration.
So him wrapping himself in the confederate one would be good (tm).

So I got thinking.
Is Trump hugging the Stars and Stripes as he has done on a fair few occasions flag desecration?


even with all his sweatiness; no it does not.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:59 pm

So, if Trump is defeated in November - not a prediction, mind - do you think he'll attend the Inauguration? John Adams didn't attend Thomas Jefferson's in 1801 but back then there was no set protocol. Trump sitting there would put a crimp in Biden's speech, I would think. *wanders off to think more random thoughts*
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Farnhamia wrote:So, if Trump is defeated in November - not a prediction, mind - do you think he'll attend the Inauguration? John Adams didn't attend Thomas Jefferson's in 1801 but back then there was no set protocol. Trump sitting there would put a crimp in Biden's speech, I would think. *wanders off to think more random thoughts*

He has to be out of the white house, because it gets refurbished during the inauguration. So either he is in Mar-a-lago, or he is on air force one taking his final tour. So, the best place for him to be would be the inauguration. I wonder where he will take his last flight on air forc one, since he is a wanted man in New York.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:09 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:So, if Trump is defeated in November - not a prediction, mind - do you think he'll attend the Inauguration? John Adams didn't attend Thomas Jefferson's in 1801 but back then there was no set protocol. Trump sitting there would put a crimp in Biden's speech, I would think. *wanders off to think more random thoughts*

He has to be out of the white house, because it gets refurbished during the inauguration. So either he is in Mar-a-lago, or he is on air force one taking his final tour. So, the best place for him to be would be the inauguration. I wonder where he will take his last flight on air forc one, since he is a wanted man in New York.

He changed his official residence to Florida so there's no need for him to go to New York. I think he gets a discount at the hotel he built in the old Post Office building, so he could stay in DC.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:36 pm

Oh dear...

First, President Trump decided not to confront Putin about supplying arms to the terrorist group. Second, during the very times in which U.S. military officials publicly raised concerns about the program’s threat to US forces, Trump undercut them. He embraced Putin, overtly and repeatedly, including at the historic summit in Helsinki. Third, behind the scenes, Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernible reward, former intelligence officials who served in the Trump administration told Just Security.

Most of these officials emphasized, as a caution, the significant qualitative difference between arming the Taliban and paying bounties to kill American service members—a massive escalation. Unlike bounties, the Russian-Taliban arms program could also be potentially explained, or plausibly denied, by Moscow as an effort to assist the Taliban’s fight against the common enemy of ISIS. That said, the arms also reportedly became increasingly sophisticated in what appears to provide the Taliban an edge against NATO and Afghan government forces.

The failure to push back on the weapons program signaled to Putin that he could press further, said Michael Carpenter, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense with responsibility for Russia in the Obama administration. “When Western powers fail to push back, the Kremlin keeps prodding and probing — until it meets resistance, or until the costs for President Putin and his regime exceed the perceived benefits,” Carpenter wrote in Just Security on Friday.

What we now know is that President Trump not only failed to push back against Russia’s arming the terrorist group. That extraordinary act of omission was coupled with the president’s effort to push the CIA to cooperate with Russia by providing U.S. intelligence to the Kremlin on counterterrorism operations despite getting nothing in return, according to former officials.

Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No Action Against Russia Arming Taliban
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:He has to be out of the white house, because it gets refurbished during the inauguration. So either he is in Mar-a-lago, or he is on air force one taking his final tour. So, the best place for him to be would be the inauguration. I wonder where he will take his last flight on air forc one, since he is a wanted man in New York.

He changed his official residence to Florida so there's no need for him to go to New York. I think he gets a discount at the hotel he built in the old Post Office building, so he could stay in DC.

Can SDNY ask Florida or DC to extradite him?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:38 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Do note that wrapping oneself in a flag counts as desecration.
So him wrapping himself in the confederate one would be good (tm).

So I got thinking.
Is Trump hugging the Stars and Stripes as he has done on a fair few occasions flag desecration?


Nixon: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."
LBJ: "The right of every American to be free from unlawful searches and forced self-incrimination must be upheld."
Trump: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
Nixon: "Err, Donald, did you just take the Fifth?"
Trump: "Wait... You guys are dead... Uh oh. "
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Gravlen wrote:Oh dear...

First, President Trump decided not to confront Putin about supplying arms to the terrorist group. Second, during the very times in which U.S. military officials publicly raised concerns about the program’s threat to US forces, Trump undercut them. He embraced Putin, overtly and repeatedly, including at the historic summit in Helsinki. Third, behind the scenes, Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernible reward, former intelligence officials who served in the Trump administration told Just Security.

Most of these officials emphasized, as a caution, the significant qualitative difference between arming the Taliban and paying bounties to kill American service members—a massive escalation. Unlike bounties, the Russian-Taliban arms program could also be potentially explained, or plausibly denied, by Moscow as an effort to assist the Taliban’s fight against the common enemy of ISIS. That said, the arms also reportedly became increasingly sophisticated in what appears to provide the Taliban an edge against NATO and Afghan government forces.

The failure to push back on the weapons program signaled to Putin that he could press further, said Michael Carpenter, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense with responsibility for Russia in the Obama administration. “When Western powers fail to push back, the Kremlin keeps prodding and probing — until it meets resistance, or until the costs for President Putin and his regime exceed the perceived benefits,” Carpenter wrote in Just Security on Friday.

What we now know is that President Trump not only failed to push back against Russia’s arming the terrorist group. That extraordinary act of omission was coupled with the president’s effort to push the CIA to cooperate with Russia by providing U.S. intelligence to the Kremlin on counterterrorism operations despite getting nothing in return, according to former officials.

Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No Action Against Russia Arming Taliban

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Postby President John F Kennedy » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:30 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So I got thinking.
Is Trump hugging the Stars and Stripes as he has done on a fair few occasions flag desecration?


Nixon: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."
LBJ: "The right of every American to be free from unlawful searches and forced self-incrimination must be upheld."
Trump: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
Nixon: "Err, Donald, did you just take the Fifth?"
Trump: "Wait... You guys are dead... Uh oh. "

JFK: "We would like to live as we once lived, but history will not permit it."

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:36 pm

Gravlen wrote:Oh dear...

First, President Trump decided not to confront Putin about supplying arms to the terrorist group. Second, during the very times in which U.S. military officials publicly raised concerns about the program’s threat to US forces, Trump undercut them. He embraced Putin, overtly and repeatedly, including at the historic summit in Helsinki. Third, behind the scenes, Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernible reward, former intelligence officials who served in the Trump administration told Just Security.

Most of these officials emphasized, as a caution, the significant qualitative difference between arming the Taliban and paying bounties to kill American service members—a massive escalation. Unlike bounties, the Russian-Taliban arms program could also be potentially explained, or plausibly denied, by Moscow as an effort to assist the Taliban’s fight against the common enemy of ISIS. That said, the arms also reportedly became increasingly sophisticated in what appears to provide the Taliban an edge against NATO and Afghan government forces.

The failure to push back on the weapons program signaled to Putin that he could press further, said Michael Carpenter, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense with responsibility for Russia in the Obama administration. “When Western powers fail to push back, the Kremlin keeps prodding and probing — until it meets resistance, or until the costs for President Putin and his regime exceed the perceived benefits,” Carpenter wrote in Just Security on Friday.

What we now know is that President Trump not only failed to push back against Russia’s arming the terrorist group. That extraordinary act of omission was coupled with the president’s effort to push the CIA to cooperate with Russia by providing U.S. intelligence to the Kremlin on counterterrorism operations despite getting nothing in return, according to former officials.

Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No Action Against Russia Arming Taliban


the russians arming the taliban shouldnt really surprise us when we armed the Mujihadeen.

yet i dont remember seeing the bitching and moaning when they armed the North Vietnamese with Advanced supersonic jets in the 60s.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:38 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Oh dear...

First, President Trump decided not to confront Putin about supplying arms to the terrorist group. Second, during the very times in which U.S. military officials publicly raised concerns about the program’s threat to US forces, Trump undercut them. He embraced Putin, overtly and repeatedly, including at the historic summit in Helsinki. Third, behind the scenes, Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernible reward, former intelligence officials who served in the Trump administration told Just Security.

Most of these officials emphasized, as a caution, the significant qualitative difference between arming the Taliban and paying bounties to kill American service members—a massive escalation. Unlike bounties, the Russian-Taliban arms program could also be potentially explained, or plausibly denied, by Moscow as an effort to assist the Taliban’s fight against the common enemy of ISIS. That said, the arms also reportedly became increasingly sophisticated in what appears to provide the Taliban an edge against NATO and Afghan government forces.

The failure to push back on the weapons program signaled to Putin that he could press further, said Michael Carpenter, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense with responsibility for Russia in the Obama administration. “When Western powers fail to push back, the Kremlin keeps prodding and probing — until it meets resistance, or until the costs for President Putin and his regime exceed the perceived benefits,” Carpenter wrote in Just Security on Friday.

What we now know is that President Trump not only failed to push back against Russia’s arming the terrorist group. That extraordinary act of omission was coupled with the president’s effort to push the CIA to cooperate with Russia by providing U.S. intelligence to the Kremlin on counterterrorism operations despite getting nothing in return, according to former officials.

Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No Action Against Russia Arming Taliban


the russians arming the taliban shouldnt really surprise us when we armed the Mujihadeen.

yet i dont remember seeing the bitching and moaning when they armed the North Vietnamese with Advanced supersonic jets in the 60s.

Really? You don't remember a prolonged period of hostility between the US as Soviet governments around that time? With the US actively seeking to undermine Soviet influence as a matter of policy?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:39 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
the russians arming the taliban shouldnt really surprise us when we armed the Mujihadeen.

yet i dont remember seeing the bitching and moaning when they armed the North Vietnamese with Advanced supersonic jets in the 60s.

Really? You don't remember a prolonged period of hostility between the US as Soviet governments around that time? With the US actively seeking to undermine Soviet influence as a matter of policy?


and the russians clearly have a similar policy set against us.

almost as if the cold war never ended.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:47 pm

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-slov ... SKBN24933K

Looks like Melania isn't so welcome in Slovenia anymore.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:54 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Really? You don't remember a prolonged period of hostility between the US as Soviet governments around that time? With the US actively seeking to undermine Soviet influence as a matter of policy?


and the russians clearly have a similar policy set against us.

almost as if the cold war never ended.

Yeah, but we're not doing it back. That's why people are "bitching and moaning."
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:56 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
and the russians clearly have a similar policy set against us.

almost as if the cold war never ended.

Yeah, but we're not doing it back. That's why people are "bitching and moaning."


we armed 'Moderate' rebels against assad.

who is a russian ally.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:57 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Yeah, but we're not doing it back. That's why people are "bitching and moaning."


we armed 'Moderate' rebels against assad.

who is a russian ally.

Hardly the same thing.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:01 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
we armed 'Moderate' rebels against assad.

who is a russian ally.

Hardly the same thing.

Why is it not the same thing?
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