MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Neutraligon]

Is it wrong that sometimes I kind of wish Ginsburgh would become the first person to get some kind of life extending treatment? Like she shows up to the SC one day looking like she's 20 again, as the first person to get Rejuvenat/Leonization.

Like, I disagree with her on a lot of things but damned if that wouldn't be an amazing troll to all the crows circling her.

I’ll chip in a donation for this.

It would make the meme that she will never die very real.

[Aureumterra]

Right. I would prefer a president that will be able to solve the multitude of crises that this country is experiencing, but that's just socialism, apparently.

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Praise Davincia!

[The Emerald Legion]

Right. I would prefer a president that will be able to solve the multitude of crises that this country is experiencing, but that's just socialism, apparently.

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Giving me absolute power would solve the nations problems by creating a bigger one that Eclipses all of them.

[Northern Davincia]

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Praise Davincia!

Looks like someone has earned a spot as vice-dictator.

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Giving me absolute power would solve the nations problems by creating a bigger one that Eclipses all of them.

I like the way you think.

[The Alma Mater]

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Giving me absolute power would solve the nations problems by creating a bigger one that Eclipses all of them.

But that is a NEW problem. You would have solved all the old ones.

[Santheres]

Please watch your distance from the topic. You're drifting.

Thank you!

[Thermodolia]

Giving me absolute power could solve the nation's problems.

Giving me absolute power would solve the nations problems by creating a bigger one that Eclipses all of them.

Hey you can’t complain about the racial issues when the president decides that the moon has got to go

[Fahran]

America doesn't fund its military so as to benefit Europe, it funds its military so as to benefit the tiny minority of people that America is set up to benefit.

This is a bit of a simplification and is exceedingly ungenerous to people who seem to genuinely believe, and quite wrongly I might add, in many instances that American military interventions and the present neoliberal order of the world are worthwhile projects. We should absolutely withdraw our protection from those who have no willingness to invest in their own protection and allow for the emergence of novel hegemonic powers such as China in East Asia, India in South Asia, and Russia, once again, in Eastern Europe. This is in fact an inevitability if we do not become robust and ruthless in addressing threats to the prevailing order and brow-beat allies into participating. China will be a hegemon if things do not change in the next fifty years.

Trump's probably better on China than cookie-cutter neoliberals precisely because he has begun the political realignment that acknowledges the Chinese state for what it is - an eventual competitor and threat that is willing to use the system we constructed against us and that in fact excels in this. His insistence on pandering to the Chinese for concessions does hurt him but probably not as much as the willful ignorance of many of his competitors does.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

I’ll chip in a donation for this.

It would make the meme that she will never die very real.

She and Queen Elizabeth must remain alive, they should oversee the future of humanity together, like the civ leaders.

Trump’s Tulsa rally was honestly weird, calling for such a gathering in the middle of the pandemic, ehich attracts large crowds (somewhat) that have usually made their choice not to wear masks. Along with the news of the six DC staffers that fell sick with the coronavirus and the Tiktokers, K-pop stans and others who reserved seats but didn’t go, this seems like a spectacular failure.

[Gormwood]

It would make the meme that she will never die very real.

She and Queen Elizabeth must remain alive, they should oversee the future of humanity together, like the civ leaders.

Trump’s Tulsa rally was honestly weird, calling for such a gathering in the middle of the pandemic, ehich attracts large crowds (somewhat) that have usually made their choice not to wear masks. Along with the news of the six DC staffers that fell sick with the coronavirus and the Tiktokers, K-pop stans and others who reserved seats but didn’t go, this seems like a spectacular failure.

Spectacular Failure is Trump's business model.

[Northern Davincia]

She and Queen Elizabeth must remain alive, they should oversee the future of humanity together, like the civ leaders.

Trump’s Tulsa rally was honestly weird, calling for such a gathering in the middle of the pandemic, ehich attracts large crowds (somewhat) that have usually made their choice not to wear masks. Along with the news of the six DC staffers that fell sick with the coronavirus and the Tiktokers, K-pop stans and others who reserved seats but didn’t go, this seems like a spectacular failure.

Spectacular Failure is Trump's business model.

I would categorize it as "falling upwards".

[Centai Mal]

She and Queen Elizabeth must remain alive, they should oversee the future of humanity together, like the civ leaders.

Trump’s Tulsa rally was honestly weird, calling for such a gathering in the middle of the pandemic, ehich attracts large crowds (somewhat) that have usually made their choice not to wear masks. Along with the news of the six DC staffers that fell sick with the coronavirus and the Tiktokers, K-pop stans and others who reserved seats but didn’t go, this seems like a spectacular failure.

Spectacular Failure is Trump's business model.

I’m still so proud to be part of the group that trolled Trump that epically

[Gormwood]

Spectacular Failure is Trump's business model.

I would categorize it as "falling upwards".

Only in AnCappistan is business failure considered a virtue.

[Northern Davincia]

I would categorize it as "falling upwards".

Only in AnCappistan is business failure considered a virtue.

Well, he's gone through plenty of failures like any businessman, but he stays afloat and his name brand is now going to be recognizable forever.

[Gormwood]

Only in AnCappistan is business failure considered a virtue.

Well, he's gone through plenty of failures like any businessman, but he stays afloat and his name brand is now going to be recognizable forever.

"From the man who brought you over 100,000 coronavirus deaths, it's Trump [noun]!"

[Fahran]

Only in AnCappistan is business failure considered a virtue.

Well, he's gone through plenty of failures like any businessman, but he stays afloat and his name brand is now going to be recognizable forever.

That's more or less true. The present system and culture suit men like Trump well enough, whatever moral or practical failings they might have.

[Northern Davincia]

Well, he's gone through plenty of failures like any businessman, but he stays afloat and his name brand is now going to be recognizable forever.

"From the man who brought you over 100,000 coronavirus deaths, it's Trump [noun]!"

I figure that those willing to buy his merchandise already shift the blame onto China.

[Fahran]

"From the man who brought you over 100,000 coronavirus deaths, it's Trump [noun]!"

I figure that those willing to buy his merchandise already shift the blame onto China.

Why blame only one person when you can blame multiple governments, individuals, and organizations for mobilizing an altogether terrible response in most cases?

[Valrifell]

I figure that those willing to buy his merchandise already shift the blame onto China.

Why blame only one person when you can blame multiple governments, individuals, and organizations for mobilizing an altogether terrible response in most cases?

Because burning the goat is easier.

It's very hard to come to terms with how massive of a global system-wide fuckup the coronavirus response was. I have no doubt that several careers will be made analyzing the global response and individual nation's response.

[Gormwood]

Why blame only one person when you can blame multiple governments, individuals, and organizations for mobilizing an altogether terrible response in most cases?

Because burning the goat is easier.

It's very hard to come to terms with how massive of a global system-wide fuckup the coronavirus response was. I have no doubt that several careers will be made analyzing the global response and individual nation's response.

How many of those countries dealt with the oncoming pandemic by doing nothing except trying to magically think that the virus would miraculously vanish in the warm April air with barely any fatalities?

[Valrifell]

Because burning the goat is easier.

It's very hard to come to terms with how massive of a global system-wide fuckup the coronavirus response was. I have no doubt that several careers will be made analyzing the global response and individual nation's response.

How many of those countries dealt with the oncoming pandemic by doing nothing except trying to magically think that the virus would miraculously vanish in the warm April air with barely any fatalities?

Donald Trump didn't help the situation, of course, but to blame him and him alone for the lackluster response nationally would be a tad foolish even with the supply raiding. Congress could have passed stronger measures and the States could have taken testing and healthcare more seriously before and during the crisis.

If we want to extend it even further we can always say that a general culture of taking it lightly was also misplaced. This is not, of course, to absolve him, but I think the systems behind the people are more deserving to draw ire, even if Donald Trump singlehandedly sabotaged a lot of efforts.

[Fahran]

How many of those countries dealt with the oncoming pandemic by doing nothing except trying to magically think that the virus would miraculously vanish in the warm April air with barely any fatalities?

Quite a few countries took their sweet time implementing restrictions on travel, social distancing measures, widespread testing, mandatory mask-wearing, etc. There were a number of reasons for this from complacence to a lack of manufacturing capacity with regard to necessary medical supplies. If the CCP had reacted more immediately, that probably would have done more than anything to limit the spread of COVID-19.

In the US, we had screw-ups at practically every level from the executive, to the legislative, to the state, on down to the individual. We didn't take it as seriously as we needed to and we're paying the price for that at the moment. Several other countries are in roughly the same boat. The Chinese and Vietnamese eventually took the steps they needed to take to address the situation.

[Solomons Land]

How many of those countries dealt with the oncoming pandemic by doing nothing except trying to magically think that the virus would miraculously vanish in the warm April air with barely any fatalities?

Quite a few countries took their sweet time implementing restrictions on travel, social distancing measures, widespread testing, mandatory mask-wearing, etc. There were a number of reasons for this from complacence to a lack of manufacturing capacity with regard to necessary medical supplies. If the CCP had reacted more immediately, that probably would have done more than anything to limit the spread of COVID-19.

In the US, we had screw-ups at practically every level from the executive, to the legislative, to the state, on down to the individual. We didn't take it as seriously as we needed to and we're paying the price for that at the moment. Several other countries are in roughly the same boat. The Chinese and Vietnamese eventually took the steps they needed to take to address the situation.

I have a personal example of this. My father lives in Lebanon and my half-sister is in college in the Netherlands. Lebanon was pretty ontop of this issue. Meanwhile, the Netherlands were dragging their feet. By the time her school closed, Lebanon had already barred international travel, leaving her stuck on the Netherlands.

[Shrillland]

Well, Trump's done something about those visas all right. Something that amounts to a massive brain drain: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-suspend-h-1b-visas-200837304.html

All H1-B(the type that allows STEM workers to come here), most H2-B(seasonal workers), and all L-1(job transfers within a company) Visas are suspended for the rest of the year.

[Bombadil]

Well, Trump's done something about those visas all right. Something that amounts to a massive brain drain: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-suspend-h-1b-visas-200837304.html

All H1-B(the type that allows STEM workers to come here), most H2-B(seasonal workers), and all L-1(job transfers within a company) Visas are suspended for the rest of the year.

Honestly, the depths of idiocy plummeted by this administration is a wonder to behold. Not only is it a brain drain but it hits farmers, who Trump has already done a fine job alienating, by not allowing seasonal workers.

Here's a pro-tip. Simply put in place a system that tags anyone coming in, place them in quarantine for 14 days, test them and if they're clear let them go about their business. That's what most sensible countries have done but, no, not Trump, ban immigrants is just his default solution to everything, ban immigrants and dismantle regulations.. that's it.