MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Tirmon]

I think it should be pretty clear based on my political affiliation that I'm no fan of Trump

that being said, I think it's a bit over the top for Twitter to label a very obvious meme as "Manipulated Media".

Just gives Trump more ammunition to claim that he's being repressed by the Media. Don't give him unnecessary ammo.

Twitter did the right thing.

Sure, dunking on the orange man because it feels good is doing the right thing when it furthers an alt-right narrative and give it ammo.

[The Emerald Legion]

I think it should be pretty clear based on my political affiliation that I'm no fan of Trump

that being said, I think it's a bit over the top for Twitter to label a very obvious meme as "Manipulated Media".

Just gives Trump more ammunition to claim that he's being repressed by the Media. Don't give him unnecessary ammo.

Twitter did the right thing.

If Twitter did the right thing it would cease to exist.

[Vassenor]

Twitter did the right thing.

Sure, dunking on the orange man because it feels good is doing the right thing when it furthers an alt-right narrative and give it ammo.

Standing up for facts is not just "dunking on the orange man because it feels good".

[Tirmon]

It's.. very very obviously fake. I don't think anyone thought it was a serious "exposè", as opposed to a jab at the CNN.
Again, by taking it THIS seriously, you are playing into their narrative of being repressed and treated unfairly.

Pointing out when Trump is bullshitting is unfair repressive treatment?

When it's incredibly obvious that it's meant as satire/a meme, it sure looks that way.

[Vassenor]

Pointing out when Trump is bullshitting is unfair repressive treatment?

When it's incredibly obvious that it's meant as satire/a meme, it sure looks that way.

Ah yes, the "it's just a joke" / "it's just a meme" defence.

[Ifreann]

As this isn’t the “Showcase of concepts you don’t understand”-thread, the threadjack should really be ended and the conversation brought back on topic.

Perhaps you should say something about Trump then, rather than just kicking the can at us.

Any thoughts on why his campaign included inverted red triangles in their now-deleted Facebook posts?

[Gormwood]

Pointing out when Trump is bullshitting is unfair repressive treatment?

When it's incredibly obvious that it's meant as satire/a meme, it sure looks that way.

"It's just a joke BRO!" is never a reliable defense or excuse.

[Tirmon]

When it's incredibly obvious that it's meant as satire/a meme, it sure looks that way.

Ah yes, the "it's just a joke" / "it's just a meme" defence.

I've yet to speak to anyone who saw that tweet and thought to themselves,
"Yes, this is a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda."
Do you think it was a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda?

[Vassenor]

Ah yes, the "it's just a joke" / "it's just a meme" defence.

I've yet to speak to anyone who saw that tweet and thought to themselves,
"Yes, this is a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda."
Do you think it was a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda?

So because no-one you know said it means no-one said it? Smooth.

Why don't you explain, with evidence, what he was trying to do then.

[Gormwood]

Ah yes, the "it's just a joke" / "it's just a meme" defence.

I've yet to speak to anyone who saw that tweet and thought to themselves,
"Yes, this is a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda."
Do you think it was a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda?

Pizzagate proved there is no shortage of fucking morons who will buy into even the hackiest fakeries.

[The Emerald Legion]

Perhaps you should say something about Trump then, rather than just kicking the can at us.

Any thoughts on why his campaign included inverted red triangles in their now-deleted Facebook posts?

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

[Tirmon]

I've yet to speak to anyone who saw that tweet and thought to themselves,
"Yes, this is a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda."
Do you think it was a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda?

So because no-one you know said it means no-one said it? Smooth.

Why don't you explain, with evidence, what he was trying to do then.

Are you saying it? I asked you.

Post a shitty meme? Like.. It isn't that serious. This is embarassing that people are choosing this hill to die on, of all the shit he's done/will do.

I've yet to speak to anyone who saw that tweet and thought to themselves,
"Yes, this is a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda."
Do you think it was a legitimate attempt by Trump to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda?

Pizzagate proved there is no shortage of fucking morons who will buy into even the hackiest fakeries.

Fair enough, but I still don't think it was meant to be serious.

[Vassenor]

So because no-one you know said it means no-one said it? Smooth.

Why don't you explain, with evidence, what he was trying to do then.

Are you saying it? I asked you.

Post a shitty meme? Like.. It isn't that serious. This is embarassing that people are choosing this hill to die on, of all the shit he's done/will do.

Pizzagate proved there is no shortage of fucking morons who will buy into even the hackiest fakeries.

Fair enough, but I still don't think it was meant to be serious.

This is the same guy who's spent four years screaming about fake news and how CNN is the enemy of the American people.

[Tirmon]

Are you saying it? I asked you.

Post a shitty meme? Like.. It isn't that serious. This is embarassing that people are choosing this hill to die on, of all the shit he's done/will do.

Fair enough, but I still don't think it was meant to be serious.

This is the same guy who's spent four years screaming about fake news and how CNN is the enemy of the American people.

Do you believe Trump was making a legitimate attempt to defame the CNN through doctored propaganda? It's a very very simple yes or no question.

[Crockerland]

Faking footage to pass it off as an actual CNN chiron is textbook media manipulation.

It's.. very very obviously fake. I don't think anyone thought it was a serious "exposè", as opposed to a jab at the CNN.
Again, by taking it THIS seriously, you are playing into their narrative of being repressed and treated unfairly.

Maybe his narrative is right.

[Ifreann]

Any thoughts on why his campaign included inverted red triangles in their now-deleted Facebook posts?

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

So it was, in fact, Nazi dog whistling. Cool, I thought so too.

[Tirmon]

It's.. very very obviously fake. I don't think anyone thought it was a serious "exposè", as opposed to a jab at the CNN.
Again, by taking it THIS seriously, you are playing into their narrative of being repressed and treated unfairly.

Maybe his narrative is right.

Even if it was, and it isn't, it isn't inherently wrong to repress fascists. Merely a bad choice because such choices often result in a more widely accepted Victimisation of that group that increases their popularity.

[Gormwood]

Are you saying it? I asked you.

Post a shitty meme? Like.. It isn't that serious. This is embarassing that people are choosing this hill to die on, of all the shit he's done/will do.

Fair enough, but I still don't think it was meant to be serious.

This is the same guy who's spent four years screaming about fake news and how CNN is the enemy of the American people.

And according to Bolton he wanted CNN reporters jailed.

[The Black Forrest]

Any thoughts on why his campaign included inverted red triangles in their now-deleted Facebook posts?

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

trump a Nazi?.....Nahhh. He is more of the guy who would offer to run things if they took over.

[Gormwood]

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

trump a Nazi?.....Nahhh. He is more of the guy who would offer to run things if they took over.

So a Quisling. SO much better.

[The Emerald Legion]

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

So it was, in fact, Nazi dog whistling. Cool, I thought so too.

It's way too much of a coincidence to entirely ignore. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time someone was that ignorant, like the 'Super Scouts' and their literal Nazi SS flag. But it feels like an odd move for Trump himself to be the push behind it.

[Vassenor]

It's.. very very obviously fake. I don't think anyone thought it was a serious "exposè", as opposed to a jab at the CNN.
Again, by taking it THIS seriously, you are playing into their narrative of being repressed and treated unfairly.

Maybe his narrative is right.

What's unfair and repressive about pointing out when Trump is lying? The US isn't some authoritarian hellhole where correcting Dearest Leader isn't allowed.

[Gormwood]

Maybe his narrative is right.

What's unfair and repressive about pointing out when Trump is lying?

It goes against the narrative that Trump is infallible.

[The Emerald Legion]

Maybe his narrative is right.

What's unfair and repressive about pointing out when Trump is lying? The US isn't some authoritarian hellhole where correcting Dearest Leader isn't allowed.

I mean. If you do it even handedly? Sure. Go ahead. They don't usually. They apply it selectively to people they oppose while letting people they agree with lie all the time.

[Myrensis]

If I had to guess? Someone on his campaign staff is a white nationalist, and sold him on the triangles thing because red for commies, and downward pointing triangles are scary.

But that's mainly because while I do think Trump has copious amounts of 'old wealthy people' racism, he doesn't come across as a legit Nazi sympathizer. I could be wrong about that... But I just don't see it. He's too eager to stick his dick in minorities.

trump a Nazi?.....Nahhh. He is more of the guy who would offer to run things if they took over.

Doubt he could tolerate the idea of working for someone else. As with most of the shit he does, it's not that he actually believes it, he just has zero problem with tolerating and playing along with it so long as he believes it will benefit him and serves to inflate his ego. If the white nationalist Non-Trumps want to dog whistle other non-Trumps about the danger of various other non-Trumps...who cares? Just so long as they vote for him and tell him he's the bravest and handsomest boy at his rallies.