MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[The Black Forrest]

Trump just mentioned the Aids vaccine.

He seems to think AZT and the other drugs are a vaccine

[Geneviev]

I still support Trump, now more than ever, MAGA 2020!
The Left hates Trump because he is proudly Christian.

Christian? Nahh. People tend to hate him for his hate talk; his gushing of authoritarians; he lies and endless lies.

And because he's obviously not Christian.

[Crockerland]

Yeah that's intentional, they are presenting things in rapid fire sequence so you won't actually spend time thinking or questioning the things they're saying.

You mean It’s like every other political ad? I am shocked, shocked I say!

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you weren't shocked at all.

They say Trump is "praising white supremacists" and then move on so you won't think back and recall that Trump didn't actually do that before we're onto the next point.

There wasn’t good people on both sides?

Much like Biden, you are hoping to mislead people by taking parts of a quote out of context and presenting them in such a way as to make it look like Trump is saying something he isn't saying. Let's take a look at Trump's actual words
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee."

Donald Trump said there were good people on both sides of the debate to remove the statue of Robert E. Lee, and specifically said that the neo-nazis were not good people

By the time we're done with the emotional appeal of "muh children in cages!"

Placing children is cages isn’t a bad thing?

We keep kids in "cages" in juvenile detention but I haven't heard anyone complaining about that. My elementary school was fenced in with barbed wire and we were locked in, do we need to abolish schools now too? Or just take down all the fences and locks so child abductors, school shooters, and rapists can break into schools without a hassle but it will look nicer and we won't be keeping kids in "cages?"

I hope we can get more funding to our immigration courts and ICE detention centers so that we can keep anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant in as comfortable of conditions as possible and send them back home to their own country as quickly as possible.

[The Black Forrest]

You mean It’s like every other political ad? I am shocked, shocked I say!

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you weren't shocked at all.

There wasn’t good people on both sides?

Much like Biden, you are hoping to mislead people by taking parts of a quote out of context and presenting them in such a way as to make it look like Trump is saying something he isn't saying. Let's take a look at Trump's actual words
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because [they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee."

Speaking of taking things out of context. Did you read that whole thing? He compared Washington and Jefferson to Lee. Why? Because they owned Slaves.

The amount of “good” people there to simply defend Lee on historical grounds is far less then the majority’s reasons.

What actions has Trump done against the Neo-Nazis, the Klan, the alt-right? Only words. He is good for that. I condemn them; I won’t do anything but I condemn them. Oh yea and ANTIFA is now a terrorist organization.

Donald Trump said there were good people on both sides of the debate to remove the statue of Robert E. Lee, and specifically said that the neo-nazis were not good people

The alt-right is not simply neo-nazis.

Placing children is cages isn’t a bad thing?

We keep kids in "cages" in juvenile detention but I haven't heard anyone complaining about that. My elementary school was fenced in with barbed wire and we were locked in, do we need to abolish schools now too? Or just take down all the fences and locks so child abductors, school shooters, and rapists can break into schools without a hassle but it will look nicer and we won't be keeping kids in "cages?"

I hope we can get more funding to our immigration courts and ICE detention centers so that we can keep anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant in as comfortable of conditions as possible and send them back home to their own country as quickly as possible.

Juvi would be a vast improvement for these kids. Have you read up on them?

A simply solution would be increasing the amount of judges to handle these cases. It hasn’t happened and it will not happen under Trumps watch.

[Eahland]

I still support Trump, now more than ever, MAGA 2020!
The Left hates Trump because he is proudly Christian.

In other words, you've been scammed into believing something blatantly untrue, and are now frantically rejecting any information that might challenge that belief, because you don't want to admit that you could be duped.

Trump is less Christian than I am, and I'm an atheist. He actually bears a disturbingly close resemblance to many evangelicals' descriptions of the Antichrist. Like the bit where he speaks from a golden throne and the churches of the earth rally around him.

[Albrenia]

I still find it odd some people can buy the obvious lie of Trump being a Christian. I get supporting him out of aligning goals, since the religious right and Trump have a number of such things, but it's staggering that some people actually believe he's a pious and proud Christian.

[Gormwood]

The Lincoln Project Went There

[Jedi Council]

Trump has literally been so sxxx that they were able to spend a few minutes talking about only half the horrible things he's done.

Honestly who the fxxx supports this guy still?

I still support Trump, now more than ever, MAGA 2020!
The Left hates Trump because he is proudly Christian.

Trump is the most un-christian man to be elected President. He embodies every single one of the seven deadly sins, uses Churches as photo ops without their permission, and has clearly never read the Bible.

So if you wanted to vote someone who is actually a Christian, Joe Biden is a practicing Catholic, Hillary Clinton was a devout Methodist, and Obama woke up reading scripture first thing every morning.

[Fahran]

The Lincoln Project Went There

Ah, quality mud-raking.

[Ifreann]

And that makes sense, doesn't it? This is a respiratory disease, it's just intuitively obvious that when your breath is dispersed into the open air that you are less likely to infect other people, whereas the risk would be greater within an enclosed area.

"Any large gathering, whether of protesters or ralliers, is dangerous."

This sentence matters a good deal more than your response suggests. A reduced likelihood of infection at one event compared to another does not change the fact that both events present a significant public health risk and that social distancing remains the most prudent course of action. Both of these events could result in dozens of people being directly infected and then infecting other people while asymptomatic. An explosion of emergency room visits is not something we need right now as a society.

A reduced likelihood of infection at outdoor events does mean that outdoor events are, in fact, not practically the same as indoor events. To suggest otherwise is to traffic in misinformation about covid-19. Whatever satisfaction you derive from drawing an equivalence between Trump restarting his campaign rallies and the on-going protests across America surely cannot be worth spreading lies about the pandemic.

[Myrensis]

I still find it odd some people can buy the obvious lie of Trump being a Christian. I get supporting him out of aligning goals, since the religious right and Trump have a number of such things, but it's staggering that some people actually believe he's a pious and proud Christian.

It seems that for some of them at least, they can't square their supposed morals and values with transactional support for a man who is so completely antithetical to all of them, so they opt for comforting delusion. There's no conflict if you just convince yourself that he was totally genuinely born again just in time for the Lord to make him President and restore the traditional Christian values he cares so deeply about now.

[Gurkha Nepal]

I think Donald Trump should win the election because he is right wing

[Gormwood]

I still find it odd some people can buy the obvious lie of Trump being a Christian. I get supporting him out of aligning goals, since the religious right and Trump have a number of such things, but it's staggering that some people actually believe he's a pious and proud Christian.

It seems that for some of them at least, they can't square their supposed morals and values with transactional support for a man who is so completely antithetical to all of them, so they opt for comforting delusion. There's no conflict if you just convince yourself that he was totally genuinely born again just in time for the Lord to make him President and restore the traditional Christian values he cares so deeply about now.

They rationalize Trump as a King Cyrus.

[The Black Forrest]

I think Donald Trump should win the election because he is right wing

Right wing is irrelevant. Competence should be a factor of which he is not.

[Senkaku]

The Lincoln Project Went There

ugh someone i know follows them on twitter and interacts with a lot of their stuff... like read the room guys there's a little more going on in the country besides oh haha let's dunk on the #BadPresident and try and see if we can get him to angry reac to us... tiresome

like ok he's got some sort of issue... is there nothing else in the country that merits your attn, perhaps??

[Izandai]

The Lincoln Project Went There

ugh someone i know follows them on twitter and interacts with a lot of their stuff... like read the room guys there's a little more going on in the country besides oh haha let's dunk on the #BadPresident and try and see if we can get him to angry reac to us... tiresome

like ok he's got some sort of issue... is there nothing else in the country that merits your attn, perhaps??

People can be concerned about more than one thing at a time.

[Cisairse]

I think Donald Trump should win the election because he is right wing

I disagree.

[Minskiev]

Personally, Trump, while there’s a 1 in 69 chance he’s doing reverse psychology with his unmatched idiocy, isn’t exactly great at doing anything, except being media-savvy and somehow making the economy thrive, even though he bankrupted 5 casinos. 5. 1? Maybe. 5? How...

[The Alma Mater]

Personally, Trump, while there’s a 1 in 69 chance he’s doing reverse psychology with his unmatched idiocy, isn’t exactly great at doing anything, except being media-savvy and somehow making the economy thrive, even though he bankrupted 5 casinos. 5. 1? Maybe. 5? How...

If Trump gets credit for making the economy thrive, which is mostly due to measures from his predecessors (up till Bush jr), he should also get the fall for all the bad stuff happening now

But yes. It is odd that he has done very little while having had full control for 2 years now.

[The Black Forrest]

Personally, Trump, while there’s a 1 in 69 chance he’s doing reverse psychology with his unmatched idiocy, isn’t exactly great at doing anything, except being media-savvy and somehow making the economy thrive, even though he bankrupted 5 casinos. 5. 1? Maybe. 5? How...

Thirteen major failures.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... res-59556/

He was also bailed out by a Saudi Prince twice.

He is a horrid negotiator. Study him and you will see many “tells”

[Farnhamia]

Personally, Trump, while there’s a 1 in 69 chance he’s doing reverse psychology with his unmatched idiocy, isn’t exactly great at doing anything, except being media-savvy and somehow making the economy thrive, even though he bankrupted 5 casinos. 5. 1? Maybe. 5? How...

Thirteen major failures.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... res-59556/

He was also bailed out by a Saudi Prince twice.

He is a horrid negotiator. Study him and you will see many “tells”

Notice how his love affair with Kim Jong-un is over.

[The Black Forrest]

Thirteen major failures.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... res-59556/

He was also bailed out by a Saudi Prince twice.

He is a horrid negotiator. Study him and you will see many “tells”

Notice how his love affair with Kim Jong-un is over.

Indeed. He found out the hard way Kim is smarter and far more ruthless.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Notice how his love affair with Kim Jong-un is over.

Indeed. He found out the hard way Kim is smarter and far more ruthless.

I think he's rather forgotten that Kim exists in the middle of trying to install a kleptocratic junta.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Trump's administration is suing to try to prevent Bolton's book from coming out. On the grounds that it contains classified information.

[Cisairse]

Trump's administration is suing to try to prevent Bolton's book from coming out. On the grounds that it contains classified information.

It seems likely that this lawsuit will become a lawsuit about the executive review process in general. We may see executive review overturned by the courts.