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Postby Bombadil » Sun May 31, 2020 6:24 pm

How's that MAGA going peeps?
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Postby Galloism » Sun May 31, 2020 6:25 pm

Bombadil wrote:How's that MAGA going peeps?

I’m tired of winning.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 31, 2020 6:28 pm

Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?
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Postby Prosa » Sun May 31, 2020 6:29 pm

After seeing what Anonymous has exposed in the last 24 hours, I believe this thread is about to get very interesting.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 31, 2020 6:30 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?

Well, it's not a formal group nor does it have membership in any real sense of the word, so now if you protest Trump you're Antifa and can be held as a terrorist with all of the violations of your rights.

Well, except there's no way that would stand up, but I imagine that's the indoor voice intent.
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Postby Aclion » Sun May 31, 2020 6:31 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?

Not really. The FBI already recognizes them as such. However if his declaration includes the gov finally putting them under scrunty over this that will be a good thing.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun May 31, 2020 6:44 pm

Aclion wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?

Not really. The FBI already recognizes them as such. However if his declaration includes the gov finally putting them under scrunty over this that will be a good thing.

Given there is no real formal membership how would that work?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun May 31, 2020 6:46 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?

The same Antifa that Real Muricans brag are effeminate soyboy sissies that they could easily gun down?
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Postby Bombadil » Sun May 31, 2020 6:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
Bombadil wrote:How's that MAGA going peeps?

I’m tired of winning.


Well with the booming economy, peace and quiet across the land and everyone in good paying jobs I can imagine it gets a little tedious.

Robert Reich, a former labour secretary tweeted: “More than 100,000 Americans dead, the highest unemployment since the Depression, America in flames, the national guard deployed. Make America Great Again was a sick hoax.”

Just need to get rid of these Antifa fake news purveyors..
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Postby Gormwood » Sun May 31, 2020 6:52 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:I’m tired of winning.


Well with the booming economy, peace and quiet across the land and everyone in good paying jobs I can imagine it gets a little tedious.

Robert Reich, a former labour secretary tweeted: “More than 100,000 Americans dead, the highest unemployment since the Depression, America in flames, the national guard deployed. Make America Great Again was a sick hoax.”

Just need to get rid of these Antifa fake news purveyors..

Really is Make America Great depressed Again.
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Postby Aclion » Sun May 31, 2020 7:20 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Aclion wrote:Not really. The FBI already recognizes them as such. However if his declaration includes the gov finally putting them under scrunty over this that will be a good thing.

Given there is no real formal membership how would that work?

Same way it works with movements like the Taliban.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun May 31, 2020 7:25 pm

I swear to god America, if you vote Trump in again this November then.. well I don't know what then.. but it really won't be good.

Gonna be a long and nasty 6 months until November as he grows more and more unhinged.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 31, 2020 7:25 pm

Aclion wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Given there is no real formal membership how would that work?

Same way it works with movements like the Taliban.

We going to drone strike America? Or are we going to get involved in a hopeless struggle against Antifa that ultimately sees us negotiating with them and including them in the new government?
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Postby Punainen Suomi » Sun May 31, 2020 7:28 pm

Bombadil wrote:I swear to god America, if you vote Trump in again this November then.. well I don't know what then.. but it really won't be good.

Gonna be a long and nasty 6 months until November as he grows more and more unhinged.

He already seems to think that he might lose, and his efforts to discredit mail-in voting are probably a response to that. He was looking to pull something similar in 2016, but then he won. This time is far more dangerous.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun May 31, 2020 7:46 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Aclion wrote:Same way it works with movements like the Taliban.

We going to drone strike America? Or are we going to get involved in a hopeless struggle against Antifa that ultimately sees us negotiating with them and including them in the new government?


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Postby Kowani » Sun May 31, 2020 7:48 pm

Prosa wrote:After seeing what Anonymous has exposed in the last 24 hours, I believe this thread is about to get very interesting.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 31, 2020 8:18 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:We going to drone strike America? Or are we going to get involved in a hopeless struggle against Antifa that ultimately sees us negotiating with them and including them in the new government?


...

I'd be down

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Postby Proctopeo » Sun May 31, 2020 8:21 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Aclion wrote:Same way it works with movements like the Taliban.

We going to drone strike America? Or are we going to get involved in a hopeless struggle against Antifa that ultimately sees us negotiating with them and including them in the new government?

How about we do the real galaxy brain thing: call them stupid, then infiltrate their ranks with so many feds from so many different departments that the whole thing becomes just the government pretending to plot against itself.
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Postby Eahland » Sun May 31, 2020 8:30 pm

Bombadil wrote:I swear to god America, if you vote Trump in again this November then.. well I don't know what then.. but it really won't be good.

Gonna be a long and nasty 6 months until November as he grows more and more unhinged.

So, I was watching the SpaceX docking today, and they had Ted Cruz on to talk to the astronauts on the ISS. I was struck by the incredible contrast between Cruz, who spoke in coherent sentences, recognized when he didn't understand something, and asked intelligent questions about it, and the incoherent senile maunderings of our presidential poster boy for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

And, I mean, I hate Ted Cruz's guts. I should not be listening to him talk and going, "Why couldn't we have had that asshole instead?"

In other news, as of today, COVID-19 has killed more Americans than every conflict since World War II combined. Really hoping we don't make the next milestone.
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Trump: “ANTIFA” to be designated as Terrorists

Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sun May 31, 2020 9:45 pm

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The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.

On Sunday, May 31, 2020, U.S. Pres. Donald Trump tweeted that the U.S. government would designate “antifa” as a terrorist organization. Although current U.S. law only designates foreign entities as terrorist organizations, the White House says “antifa” is being used by foreign agitators to weaken America, and Attorney General William Barr says existing anti-rioting laws allow the FBI and Justice Department to arrest and prosecute people who cross state lines to riot.

Even if “antifa” is labeled a terrorist organization by the Federal government, though, it’s uncertain how that would be enforced. The “antifa” (or anti fascist) movement is very fragmented, there is no formal membership, no mission statement, no leadership per se. It begs the question if “antifa” is a terrorist organization, what could be considered supporting terrorism, or make you a suspected terrorist?

What do you think will come of this? Should the U.S. create a legal designation for domestic terrorists in addition to foreign terrorists? Are “antifa” creating problems for America, or are they addressing them? Is this a long overdue return to law and order, or an Orwellian new world?

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Postby Nyorklandia » Sun May 31, 2020 9:46 pm

First. This is bad.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun May 31, 2020 9:47 pm

Merged threads.]
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Postby Nyorklandia » Sun May 31, 2020 9:48 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Merged threads.]

I was wondering where it went.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 31, 2020 10:02 pm

Not really a fan of Antifa myself, but I wouldn't put them on the same level as ISIS or car bombers in Ireland and the like.

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:26 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Does Donald declaring that antifa are now terrorists even do anything substantive? Y'know while the rest of the country burns?

No, it just signals which side he supports in all of this. It does nothing.

It really is like the guy declaring bankruptcy in The Office.

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