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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri May 29, 2020 9:00 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:This assumes that Trump does actually know its origin. I doubt his memory retention greatly.

He cut off the reporter giving him the origin.

Yes, because he doesn't know history.
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Postby Aclion » Fri May 29, 2020 9:22 pm

Atheris wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/politics/trump-hong-kong-china-WHO.html

The New York Times wrote:WASHINGTON — President Trump said Friday that his administration would “begin the process” of ending the American government’s special relationship with Hong Kong, including on trade and law enforcement, and that he was withdrawing from the World Health Organization, as part of a broad effort to retaliate against China...

...Mr. Trump voiced a range of grievances against China’s “malfeasance,” angrily denouncing the country’s trade and security practices and its crackdown on civil liberties in Hong Kong, as well as its influence at the W.H.O...

“My announcement today will affect the full range of agreements we have with Hong Kong,” the president said, including “action to revoke Hong Kong’s preferential treatment as a separate customs and travel territory from the rest of China.”

...And Mr. Trump also said he was “terminating” the United States’ “relationship” with the W.H.O., which he portrayed as a puppet of the Chinese Communist Party. The president, who previously halted funding to the organization, repeatedly blamed the organization and China for mishandling the coronavirus outbreak after the pandemic spread to the United States. Allies of the W.H.O., which gets most of its funding from America, defended the organization and its response to the pandemic, saying it was among the earliest public health voices warning of the danger from the virus.

“This is a desperate effort by President Trump to distract America from his disastrous management of the coronavirus pandemic and repeated failures to hold the government of China to account when it mattered most,” said Antony Blinken, a former deputy secretary of state and foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump’s likely Democratic presidential opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.


It's happening, folks. Just when we thought 2020 couldn't get any worse, the President has declared that the US is leaving the World Health Organization.

Honestly, I'm not quite sure what to make of this. I think he has to have congressional approval to do this, but I'm not sure. Trump also said that he's ending Hong Kong's special status with the US. Corporate lobbyists and politicans have urged the President to reconsider, but I don't think he will. However, I think the biggest issue is his declaration on leaving the WHO.

What say you, NSG?

Hong Kong is no longer independent, so yeah
Also, good. Why We should fund China's mouthpiece after they sabotaged the worlds response to the crisis is beyond me. Should sanction their officials while we're at it.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri May 29, 2020 9:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He cut off the reporter giving him the origin.

Yes, because he doesn't know history.


Which admittedly places him in an awkward position; since it means he just tweets farts without ever thinking. Not something he would like to admit, so him cutting the reporter off is probably the best he could do to keep his self-image intact.
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Postby Free Northwest Sovereign » Fri May 29, 2020 9:40 pm

So, there seems to be 50/50 chances for the upcoming election, if there is one. Do y'all think that Trump will be back if he loses will he run again like Bush or give up like Jimmy Carter? And will Biden be a strong enough president to have two consecutive terms?

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Postby Necroghastia » Fri May 29, 2020 9:44 pm

Free Northwest Sovereign wrote:So, there seems to be 50/50 chances for the upcoming election, if there is one. Do y'all think that Trump will be back if he loses will he run again like Bush or give up like Jimmy Carter? And will Biden be a strong enough president to have two consecutive terms?

I think he'd run again, and if he doesn't win the primary he'd still continue campaigning because his ego and persecution complex wouldn't have it any other way.
I also doubt Biden would go for another term.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 29, 2020 9:46 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He cut off the reporter giving him the origin.

Yes, because he doesn't know history.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri May 29, 2020 9:47 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, because he doesn't know history.


A liar doesn’t concern himself with history.

Indeed.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri May 29, 2020 9:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, because he doesn't know history.


A liar doesn’t concern himself with history.

To be fair, I actually believe him if he says he did not know.
But perhaps that is because I did not know either.
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Postby Eahland » Fri May 29, 2020 11:12 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
A liar doesn’t concern himself with history.

To be fair, I actually believe him if he says he did not know.
But perhaps that is because I did not know either.

There's a simple test for whether Trump knows something:

If he says he knows it, he doesn't.

If he says he doesn't know it, pictures of them buddying it up at Mar-a-Lago are going to turn up within the week.

Applies to racist statements just as it does to indicted criminals.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat May 30, 2020 2:50 am

The Horror Channel wrote:Another stupid move in a long list of stupid moves made by this guy. However, Biden will get us back in after he's elected.


Actually, no he won't. Re-entering the WHO requires ratification by the Senate.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat May 30, 2020 7:02 am

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The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...
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Postby Tombradyonia » Sat May 30, 2020 7:10 am

Gravlen wrote:(Image)

The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...


They are for free speech but only in a 'one way street' sort of way.
They are decidely against free speech when said free speech does not praise the 'dear leader'. They're not just sensitive whiny snowflakes with their fee fees hurt anymore, they are now actively attacking the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment. Orwellian stuff.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 30, 2020 7:19 am

Gravlen wrote:(Image)

The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...

Free speach for Trump cult members, not for us.

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Postby Zurkerx » Sat May 30, 2020 7:41 am

Zurkerx wrote:In the United States, the Supreme Court rules against a church fighting social distancing restrictions.

The decision was a rare late-night one; the ruling 5-4. The four Democrats and Chief Justice Roberts, ruled against the Church. Roberts wrote:

The precise question of when restrictions on particular social activities should be lifted during the pandemic is a dynamic and fact-intensive matter subject to reasonable disagreement [...] should not be subject to second-guessing by an ‘unelected federal judiciary,’ which lacks the background, competence, and expertise to assess public health and is not accountable to the people.”


Moving this post from the COVID Thread. Basically, it seems States will be able to proceed how they want in terms of religious gatherings at least, which is something Trump doesn't want. But that last part will likely hurt some Republican Efforts to end lockdowns sooner; they may have to rely on their State Supreme Courts.

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Gravlen wrote:(Image)

The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...

Free speach for Trump cult members, not for us.


Freedom is obviously for the elites. nods /s
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Postby Gormwood » Sat May 30, 2020 8:08 am

Gravlen wrote:(Image)

The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...

But Redbubble put it back on, and I bet sales will be hot for a while. Donnie really Streissanded this one.
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Postby Atheris » Sat May 30, 2020 8:54 am

Neutraligon wrote:Merged threads.

My bad, thank you.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat May 30, 2020 9:02 am

Aclion wrote:
Atheris wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/politics/trump-hong-kong-china-WHO.html



It's happening, folks. Just when we thought 2020 couldn't get any worse, the President has declared that the US is leaving the World Health Organization.

Honestly, I'm not quite sure what to make of this. I think he has to have congressional approval to do this, but I'm not sure. Trump also said that he's ending Hong Kong's special status with the US. Corporate lobbyists and politicans have urged the President to reconsider, but I don't think he will. However, I think the biggest issue is his declaration on leaving the WHO.

What say you, NSG?

Hong Kong is no longer independent, so yeah
Also, good. Why We should fund China's mouthpiece after they sabotaged the worlds response to the crisis is beyond me. Should sanction their officials while we're at it.


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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 30, 2020 9:10 am

So many fuck Trump tags after the riot in Portland.
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Postby Atheris » Sat May 30, 2020 9:11 am

Neutraligon wrote:So many fuck Trump tags after the riot in Portland.

There was a riot in Portland? This is what I miss after sleeping to noon?
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 30, 2020 9:12 am

Atheris wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:So many fuck Trump tags after the riot in Portland.

There was a riot in Portland? This is what I miss after sleeping to noon?

Started around 11:30 last night and went on until around 2 this morning. And yes.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sat May 30, 2020 9:43 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Atheris wrote:There was a riot in Portland? This is what I miss after sleeping to noon?

Started around 11:30 last night and went on until around 2 this morning. And yes.


Weren't a few police facilities sacked in Portland?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat May 30, 2020 9:47 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Gravlen wrote:(Image)

The Trump campaign had this picture removed from a website, because they are all about free speech...

Free speach for Trump cult members, not for us.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat May 30, 2020 9:51 am

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Started around 11:30 last night and went on until around 2 this morning. And yes.


Weren't a few police facilities sacked in Portland?

I don't know about police facilities, but the justice building was broken into, and they set a small fire. That is actually what started the police response, before then things where peaceful.
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Postby Flarbinia » Sat May 30, 2020 10:10 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The Horror Channel wrote:Another stupid move in a long list of stupid moves made by this guy. However, Biden will get us back in after he's elected.


Actually, no he won't. Re-entering the WHO requires ratification by the Senate.

And Biden has dementia. Not much hope of convincing a Republican controlled Senate to approve the motion if he somehow manages to win the presidency.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 30, 2020 10:12 am

I'm not sure why people are so eager to diagnose Biden with all sorts of things when the very same people would decry laymen (their own species btw) diagnosing Donald Trump as "TDS".
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