MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Solomons Land]

I hope you are right. I don't think you are, but I hope you are.

I can give myself as a 1st example. I will go an find other religious conservatives politicians or pundits that have expressed dismay at Trump's reaction to this whole thing.

I was not able to find a politician or pundit, however, I did find this article from a somewhat well-known Evangelical blog: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/bibleandc ... me-orders/

[Major-Tom]

Trump doesn't have the legal authority to reverse these statewide orders, it's just red meat to the evangelical portion of the base. That said, I have no doubt he'll continue to pettily withhold aid and reduce assistance to states that continue statewide orders such as the one banning full houses of worship.

[Dylar]

Well that's kind of silly especially since most churches have been cooperating with the government and closing down their churches and offering online services.

[Solomons Land]

I live in world of super religious conservatives who are maybe a step away from living in compounds.
Nobody cares about starbucks cups. Literally.

Again I’m not saying that all super religious conservatives are like that but there are those who do think everything is an attack on Christianity, like red Starbucks cups for some strange reason.

Also I know super religious conservatives who do think that those red cups where an attack on Christianity

My point is that those of us that oppose homosexuality do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

[Thermodolia]

Again I’m not saying that all super religious conservatives are like that but there are those who do think everything is an attack on Christianity, like red Starbucks cups for some strange reason.

Also I know super religious conservatives who do think that those red cups where an attack on Christianity

My point is that those of us that oppose homosexuality do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

I didn’t say that you did. There’s a difference between opposing homosexuality and getting your panties in a twist about how it’s the end of the world

[Bear Stearns]

Cool

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Anti-covid conservatives can say they believe whatever, but how does that translate into actual votes / civic engagement?

[Solomons Land]

My point is that those of us that oppose homosexuality do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

I didn’t say that you did. There’s a difference between opposing homosexuality and getting your panties in a twist about how it’s the end of the world

Okay, then I will use your lexicon. My point is that those of us that "get our panties in a twist about how it’s [homosexuality] the end of the world" do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

[Solomons Land]

Anti-covid conservatives can say they believe whatever, but how does that translate into actual votes / civic engagement?

Brunswick-upon-Raritan
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Nice

[Diopolis]

Anti-covid conservatives can say they believe whatever, but how does that translate into actual votes / civic engagement?

Trump has the vote of religious conservatives opposed to the lockdown orders. It is unclear whether that was ever in doubt.

[La Xinga]

Again I’m not saying that all super religious conservatives are like that but there are those who do think everything is an attack on Christianity, like red Starbucks cups for some strange reason.

Also I know super religious conservatives who do think that those red cups where an attack on Christianity

My point is that those of us that oppose homosexuality do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

I'm not such a fan of homosexuality, but why would opposing it oppose stay-at-home orders?

[Bienenhalde]

Well that's kind of silly especially since most churches have been cooperating with the government and closing down their churches and offering online services.

Yes, most of the Christians I know support the lockdown and streamed services over the internet. Of course the Christian I know mostly don't support Trump. As to what pro-Trump types think, I can only make educated guesses.

[Jabberwocky]

Do you remember the separation of church and state? Ah, old times.

[Solomons Land]

My point is that those of us that oppose homosexuality do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

I'm not such a fan of homosexuality, but why would opposing it oppose stay-at-home orders?

You seems to be arguing against me, but we are in agreement.

[Thermodolia]

I didn’t say that you did. There’s a difference between opposing homosexuality and getting your panties in a twist about how it’s the end of the world

Okay, then I will use your lexicon. My point is that those of us that "get our panties in a twist about how it’s [homosexuality] the end of the world" do not necessarily oppose stay-at-home orders.

You clearly didn’t read my post or you did and just didn’t give a shit about what it said

[Xmara]

I’m not so sure this is the right time. I mean, I want things to reopen, but I also want things to reopen only when it’s safe to do so.

My pastor has been posting sermons to YouTube, which is nice.

[Diopolis]

Well that's kind of silly especially since most churches have been cooperating with the government and closing down their churches and offering online services.

Yes, most of the Christians I know support the lockdown and streamed services over the internet. Of course the Christian I know mostly don't support Trump. As to what pro-Trump types think, I can only make educated guesses.

There may or may not be support for lockdowns, depending on the individual, but most are opposed to keeping dispensaries open while shutting churches down.
Abbot was- and is- a popular man among the pro-Trump religious right for declaring that churches are essential, even as the vast majority of them shut down anyway.

[Solomons Land]

Well that's kind of silly especially since most churches have been cooperating with the government and closing down their churches and offering online services.

Yes, most of the Christians I know support the lockdown and streamed services over the internet. Of course the Christian I know mostly don't support Trump. As to what pro-Trump types think, I can only make educated guesses.

Trump does have a cult of personality among some conservatives, but most strongly dislike him. Trump is the candidate that wins because he is able to convince enough people his opponent is worse.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Anti-covid conservatives can say they believe whatever, but how does that translate into actual votes / civic engagement?

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Nice

Alas, it can’t be 69 forever.

[Xmara]

Well that's kind of silly especially since most churches have been cooperating with the government and closing down their churches and offering online services.

Yes, most of the Christians I know support the lockdown and streamed services over the internet. Of course the Christian I know mostly don't support Trump. As to what pro-Trump types think, I can only make educated guesses.

They think it’s time to end lockdown.

I’m surrounded by Trump supporters so I should know.

[Spiders about to ambush you]

I think only Churches with a high view of the Sacraments (Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Orthodox, etc.) should have the choice to open, but should still adhere to social distancing regulations. I say this because to us who hold the Sacraments highly, the worst thing about not going to Church isn't "praying" or reading the Bible, it's not receiving God's Grace. You can't receive communion or baptism at home, but you can read and pray at home just fine. If anything, most churches should still continue online services.

Just an opinion.

[Diopolis]

Yes, most of the Christians I know support the lockdown and streamed services over the internet. Of course the Christian I know mostly don't support Trump. As to what pro-Trump types think, I can only make educated guesses.

They think it’s time to end lockdown.

I’m surrounded by Trump supporters so I should know.

There was support for the lockdown up until the peak hit in new york.

[Diopolis]

I think only Churches with a high view of the Sacraments (Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Orthodox, etc.) should have the choice to open, but should still adhere to social distancing regulations. I say this because to us who hold the Sacraments highly, the worst thing about not going to Church isn't "praying" or reading the Bible, it's not receiving God's Grace. You can't receive communion or baptism at home, but you can read and pray at home just fine. If anything, most churches should still continue online services.

Just an opinion.

The issue is that the government can't discriminate between churches like that.

[Solomons Land]

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

The usual suspects aka the super religious conservatives. Ya know the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married and red Christmas cups from an overpriced coffee shop

This quote seems to suggest that you believe "the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married" are universally, or near universally against stay at home orders because they believe "this is an attempt to persecute Christians" which is false.

[La Xinga]

I'm not such a fan of homosexuality, but why would opposing it oppose stay-at-home orders?

You seems to be arguing against me, but we are in agreement.

Uh...ok.