MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Diopolis]

One study I read said 90% of those people could have been saved.

Study by Columbia University said it was around 30,000-40,000 deaths could have been avoided.

Study you read sounds more like bogus propaganda, tbh. People were going to die regardless; but not as many and not this quickly.

Separation of church and state isn't super relevant here. Trump is threatening states that keep churches shut down, not churches that don't want to reopen(of which there are more than a few).
The title is misleading.

Still seems super relevant if states comply with him.

Which you know some will.

If anything there's a stronger argument that separation of church and state prevents the states from shutting down churches when other businesses are allowed to reopen.

[Albrenia]

I think there is a compelling interest to keep them closed, especially when we are dealing with a pandemic right now. It's stupid that many people think this is an attempt to persecute Christians; it is not.

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

Seeing as how there's people out there who think this is a 'plandemic' to lay groundwork for the Mark of the Beast, it wouldn't surprise me if there were a bunch of morons who think this whole thing is Atheists trying to steal God from America.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I think there is a compelling interest to keep them closed, especially when we are dealing with a pandemic right now. It's stupid that many people think this is an attempt to persecute Christians; it is not.

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

Not people on this site, but some extremist Trumpers are making such statements in their own communities. It's nothing new to be honest.

[Galloism]

I imagine individual rights supersede both.

Not in matters of a pandemic; especially in a hot spot.

It's actually a particularly dangerous path to argue that individual rights don't matter when life and death is on the line, particularly when it comes to enumerated rights.

That leads us to some really bad cases, decisions, and societal outcomes.

[Zurkerx]

Snipping this out: I somehow posted it in the wrong thread...

[Thermodolia]

One study I read said 90% of those people could have been saved.

Study by Columbia University said it was around 30,000-40,000 deaths could have been avoided.

Study you read sounds more like bogus propaganda, tbh. People were going to die regardless; but not as many and not this quickly.

Separation of church and state isn't super relevant here. Trump is threatening states that keep churches shut down, not churches that don't want to reopen(of which there are more than a few).
The title is misleading.

Still seems super relevant if states comply with him.

Which you know some will.

He is trying to get religious rightwing people to continue voting for him. He is "defending" their christian freedom from the oppression of the liberal atheist elite governors or what ever bollocks.

End of the day Churches are not essential. Their function can easily be performed at home and until this epidemic has ended or is nearing its end they should remain closed. In the mean time religious folks can pray in their homes and endanger no one in the process.

How he even manages to get the religious vote at all I have no idea. Literally called God an "imaginary friend" when talking about Ted Cruz, who is openly Baptist. Literally embodies all seven deadly sins. There's absolutely nothing pious or Christian about the man. The antithesis of Christian teachings embodied.

He has an “R” next to his name. Those voters would vote for the literal devil if he had an “R” next to his name

[LiberNovusAmericae]

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

Seeing as how there's people out there who think this is a 'plandemic' to lay groundwork for the Mark of the Beast, it wouldn't surprise me if there were a bunch of morons who think this whole thing is Atheists trying to steal God from America.

I seen some youtube videos that claimed this was a satanic masonic conspiracy as well.

[Cannot think of a name]

It's about time Jesus introduced these fellows to what he really meant when he said wealth doesn't buy you a ticket to Heaven inn'it?

The last time he ran into a church being used to make money he flipped over the tables.

[Zeritae]

In limited form, yes this should be done by the states. I’m not sure this will go very well either.

inb4 Trump causes a constitutional crisis and orders an Emergency Action Notification broadcast

an EAN? i need to be able to hear the news of the coronavirus crisis, not hear that loud noise

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

The good thing about all these Bible-thumping towns is they’re rarely short on cemetery space.

[Galloism]

It's about time Jesus introduced these fellows to what he really meant when he said wealth doesn't buy you a ticket to Heaven inn'it?

The last time he ran into a church being used to make money he flipped over the tables.

And used a whip made out of cords that he made himself.

Like an ancient and perfect Macgyver crossed with Indiana Jones.

[Solomons Land]

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

The usual suspects aka the super religious conservatives. Ya know the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married and red Christmas cups from an overpriced coffee shop

Many religious conservatives are appalled by Trump's dismissal of the inherent value of human life. The assumption that are against things that you are for (here homosexuality) support all things you dislike (reckless behavior at this time, which we should all agree is bad) is stupid.

[Albrenia]

The usual suspects aka the super religious conservatives. Ya know the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married and red Christmas cups from an overpriced coffee shop

Many religious conservatives are appalled by Trump's dismissal of the inherent value of human life. The assumption that are against things that you are for (here homosexuality) support all things you dislike (reckless behavior at this time, which we should all agree is bad) is stupid.

I hope you are right. I don't think you are, but I hope you are.

[Northern Davincia]

Oh do explain.

"Russia doesn't care so why should we?" Murika, leading by exame.

That's generally how treaties work. If one side won't cooperate, neither should the other.

And that notion will remain only in our imaginations as long as Democrats and Republicans are in charge.

I am ok with that.

Are you averse to individual rights?

[Solomons Land]

The good thing about all these Bible-thumping towns is they’re rarely short on cemetery space.

That is rather dark.

[Solomons Land]

Many religious conservatives are appalled by Trump's dismissal of the inherent value of human life. The assumption that are against things that you are for (here homosexuality) support all things you dislike (reckless behavior at this time, which we should all agree is bad) is stupid.

I hope you are right. I don't think you are, but I hope you are.

I can give myself as a 1st example. I will go an find other religious conservatives politicians or pundits that have expressed dismay at Trump's reaction to this whole thing.

[Glath]

Unless the church wants more of its followers in the afterlife, they should stay closed awhile longer. People can pray from home.

[Thermodolia]

The usual suspects aka the super religious conservatives. Ya know the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married and red Christmas cups from an overpriced coffee shop

Many religious conservatives are appalled by Trump's dismissal of the inherent value of human life. The assumption that are against things that you are for (here homosexuality) support all things you dislike (reckless behavior at this time, which we should all agree is bad) is stupid.

You’re the one making that assumption not me. I’m sure there are several super religious conservatives who didn’t pitch a fit when gays could marry or post a rant on Facebook when a Seattle coffee shop put their coffee in plain red cups instead of Christmas decorations.

My post attacked those who think everything is an attack on Christianity

[Albrenia]

I hope you are right. I don't think you are, but I hope you are.

I can give myself as a 1st example. I will go an find other religious conservatives politicians or pundits that have expressed dismay at Trump's reaction to this whole thing.

I'll take your word for it. Makes me feel better to know that the faithful in the US might not go rushing to Churches and endanger their at-risk loved ones by packing the seats too closely.

[Diopolis]

Many religious conservatives are appalled by Trump's dismissal of the inherent value of human life. The assumption that are against things that you are for (here homosexuality) support all things you dislike (reckless behavior at this time, which we should all agree is bad) is stupid.

You’re the one making that assumption not me. I’m sure there are several super religious conservatives who didn’t pitch a fit when gays could marry or post a rant on Facebook when a Seattle coffee shop put their coffee in plain red cups instead of Christmas decorations.

My post attacked those who think everything is an attack on Christianity

I live in world of super religious conservatives who are maybe a step away from living in compounds.
Nobody cares about starbucks cups. Literally.

[Idzequitch]

And that notion will remain only in our imaginations as long as Democrats and Republicans are in charge.

I am ok with that.

In special cases like COVID, so am I. Generally though, it's a travesty.

[Dangine]

Unless the church wants more of its followers in the afterlife, they should stay closed awhile longer. People can pray from home.

For someone who rarely posts on forums that was pretty good.

[Thermodolia]

You’re the one making that assumption not me. I’m sure there are several super religious conservatives who didn’t pitch a fit when gays could marry or post a rant on Facebook when a Seattle coffee shop put their coffee in plain red cups instead of Christmas decorations.

My post attacked those who think everything is an attack on Christianity

I live in world of super religious conservatives who are maybe a step away from living in compounds.
Nobody cares about starbucks cups. Literally.

Again I’m not saying that all super religious conservatives are like that but there are those who do think everything is an attack on Christianity, like red Starbucks cups for some strange reason.

Also I know super religious conservatives who do think that those red cups where an attack on Christianity

[Thepeopl]

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[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

The good thing about all these Bible-thumping towns is they’re rarely short on cemetery space.

That is rather dark.

That is the cross we are already bearing.