MAGAThread XIX: Hambergers, Noble Prizes, & Disinfectant

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's true.
Yes, they could. The president didn't bother to take questions, so I think he was trying to make people happy with him as "defender of religion" while the Liberals are "attackers of G-d," which is up to all of us to decide.

He's obviously trying to build a narrative of being the defender of freedoms while those unfortunates who have to try to control a pandemic take all the blame for what needs to be done to keep people alive.

Soon the death toll in the US will be above one hundred thousand souls. I wonder how many of those were avoidable if the government was more focused on saving lives than saving Trump's election chances.

Millions of Americans will be dead by the time this is over. Mark my words.

[Rojava Free State]

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's true.
Yes, they could. The president didn't bother to take questions, so I think he was trying to make people happy with him as "defender of religion" while the Liberals are "attackers of G-d," which is up to all of us to decide.

He's obviously trying to build a narrative of being the defender of freedoms while those unfortunates who have to try to control a pandemic take all the blame for what needs to be done to keep people alive.

Soon the death toll in the US will be above one hundred thousand souls. I wonder how many of those were avoidable if the government was more focused on saving lives than saving Trump's election chances.

One study I read said 90% of those people could have been saved.

[Diopolis]

That's not something he can enforce, nor is it something that he should be able to.

Separation of Church and State works both ways or not at all.

Separation of church and state isn't super relevant here. Trump is threatening states that keep churches shut down, not churches that don't want to reopen(of which there are more than a few).
The title is misleading.

[Northern Davincia]

Trump deems Houses of Worship as "essential" facilities, says Governors should immediately open them up; threatens to override Governors that refuse to do so. Trump went on to say that it was an "injustice" that places like liquor stores and abortion clinics were allowed to remain opened.

I might be bias towards this given I'm an atheist but I do not view places of worship as essential, especially when one can literally pray at home (or listen in from afar, we're in the fucking 21st Century after all). Also, him forcing States to re-open up things, doesn't that go against their respect for State Rights or something?

States' Rights only matter when a Democrat is overstepping the bounds of Federal government. When Republicans do it, it's called maga or something.

I imagine individual rights supersede both.

[La Xinga]

He's obviously trying to build a narrative of being the defender of freedoms while those unfortunates who have to try to control a pandemic take all the blame for what needs to be done to keep people alive.

Soon the death toll in the US will be above one hundred thousand souls. I wonder how many of those were avoidable if the government was more focused on saving lives than saving Trump's election chances.

Millions of Americans will be dead by the time this is over. Mark my words.

America does not even have more than 400 Mil people, and will have less if no one fills out the census, or DIES!

[The Huskar Social Union]

He is trying to get religious rightwing people to continue voting for him. He is "defending" their christian freedom from the oppression of the liberal atheist elite governors or what ever bollocks.

End of the day Churches are not essential. Their function can easily be performed at home and until this epidemic has ended or is nearing its end they should remain closed. In the mean time religious folks can pray in their homes and endanger no one in the process.

[The Black Forrest]

States' Rights only matter when a Democrat is overstepping the bounds of Federal government. When Republicans do it, it's called maga or something.

I imagine individual rights supersede both.

Not in matters of a pandemic; especially in a hot spot.

[Mzeusia]

God'll have to work an extra shift keeping them all safe.

[Solomons Land]

The value of human life supersedes the value of public prayer. We should be able to agree on that.

[Idzequitch]

States' Rights only matter when a Democrat is overstepping the bounds of Federal government. When Republicans do it, it's called maga or something.

I imagine individual rights supersede both.

And that notion will remain only in our imaginations as long as Democrats and Republicans are in charge.

[Gormwood]

It's about time Jesus introduced these fellows to what he really meant when he said wealth doesn't buy you a ticket to Heaven inn'it?

Jesus going Castlevania on the televangelists would be fun to watch.

[Kargintina the Third]

Uhhh doesn’t this go in the coronavirus thread

[Zeritae]

He just wants the Christian Right to support him, ultimately leading to further erosion of the separation of church and state.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

That's not something he can enforce, nor is it something that he should be able to.

Separation of Church and State works both ways or not at all.

is your sig meant to say "anti-islamophobe" ? islamophobe seems pretty inconsistent with the rest of it.

[La Xinga]

Uhhh doesn’t this go in the coronavirus thread

Not really, it's more separate.

[The Black Forrest]

I imagine individual rights supersede both.

And that notion will remain only in our imaginations as long as Democrats and Republicans are in charge.

I am ok with that.

[Rojava Free State]

He is trying to get religious rightwing people to continue voting for him. He is "defending" their christian freedom from the oppression of the liberal atheist elite governors or what ever bollocks.

End of the day Churches are not essential. Their function can easily be performed at home and until this epidemic has ended or is nearing its end they should remain closed. In the mean time religious folks can pray in their homes and endanger no one in the process.

Vote for me I kill people

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

He's obviously trying to build a narrative of being the defender of freedoms while those unfortunates who have to try to control a pandemic take all the blame for what needs to be done to keep people alive.

Soon the death toll in the US will be above one hundred thousand souls. I wonder how many of those were avoidable if the government was more focused on saving lives than saving Trump's election chances.

One study I read said 90% of those people could have been saved.

Study by Columbia University said it was around 30,000-40,000 deaths could have been avoided.

Study you read sounds more like bogus propaganda, tbh. People were going to die regardless; but not as many and not this quickly.

That's not something he can enforce, nor is it something that he should be able to.

Separation of Church and State works both ways or not at all.

Separation of church and state isn't super relevant here. Trump is threatening states that keep churches shut down, not churches that don't want to reopen(of which there are more than a few).
The title is misleading.

Still seems super relevant if states comply with him.

Which you know some will.

He is trying to get religious rightwing people to continue voting for him. He is "defending" their christian freedom from the oppression of the liberal atheist elite governors or what ever bollocks.

End of the day Churches are not essential. Their function can easily be performed at home and until this epidemic has ended or is nearing its end they should remain closed. In the mean time religious folks can pray in their homes and endanger no one in the process.

How he even manages to get the religious vote at all I have no idea. Literally called God an "imaginary friend" when talking about Ted Cruz, who is openly Baptist. Literally embodies all seven deadly sins. There's absolutely nothing pious or Christian about the man. The antithesis of Christian teachings embodied.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I think there is a compelling interest to keep them closed, especially when we are dealing with a pandemic right now. It's stupid that many people think this is an attempt to persecute Christians; it is not.

[La Xinga]

He is trying to get religious rightwing people to continue voting for him. He is "defending" their christian freedom from the oppression of the liberal atheist elite governors or what ever bollocks.

End of the day Churches are not essential. Their function can easily be performed at home and until this epidemic has ended or is nearing its end they should remain closed. In the mean time religious folks can pray in their homes and endanger no one in the process.

Vote for me I kill people

When you test you find something is wrong.....with people!

[Solomons Land]

Uhhh doesn’t this go in the coronavirus thread

Not all things Coronavirus must be discussed in the Coronavirus thread. That thread is for general discussion about Coronavirus, whereas this is a specific issue.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

That's not something he can enforce, nor is it something that he should be able to.

Separation of Church and State works both ways or not at all.

is your sig meant to say "anti-islamophobe" ? islamophobe seems pretty inconsistent with the rest of it.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1368009

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I think there is a compelling interest to keep them closed, especially when we are dealing with a pandemic right now. It's stupid that many people think this is an attempt to persecute Christians; it is not.

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

[ArenaC]

In limited form, yes this should be done by the states. I’m not sure this will go very well either.

inb4 Trump causes a constitutional crisis and orders an Emergency Action Notification broadcast

[Thermodolia]

I think there is a compelling interest to keep them closed, especially when we are dealing with a pandemic right now. It's stupid that many people think this is an attempt to persecute Christians; it is not.

What? Who is saying it's an attempt to persecute Christians?

The usual suspects aka the super religious conservatives. Ya know the same ones who got their panties in a twist over gays getting married and red Christmas cups from an overpriced coffee shop