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Postby Eahland » Mon May 18, 2020 7:40 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Ah yes, TDS. Much like 'Orange Man Bad' and 'But Hillary's Emails' it's just one of the memes created to avoid having to actually confront the problems of Trump's abysmal leadership.

Please, point out where our complaints are wrong and stop hiding behind non-arguments.


There's a fair bit of difference between 'Trump has done something wrong.' and 'Trump is conspiring with the nonsentient virus to kill us all.'

Obviously the virus isn't smart enough to be in on even a stable-genius-level conspiracy (you know, the kind where you brag about the crimes you're committing on TV and Twitter, and you only don't go to prison because your co-conspirators control the judge and jury). When someone pushes someone else off a cliff, you don't say that they were "conspiring" with gravity to kill them. Similarly, when someone steals medical supplies from someone else during a global pandemic, you don't say that they were "conspiring" with the virus to kill them.

The virus isn't a co-conspirator. It's simply the murder weapon.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon May 18, 2020 7:42 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Was Donald self-referencing when he called Kim Jong-Un "Little Rocket Man"? *thinking*

oh, are you a gauth puppet?

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon May 18, 2020 8:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:

Yes, this is so far off recommendations that it is beyond ridiculous. It should be ather well known that this disease is known to effect the blood vessels. That Healthy young adults are dying of blood related issues because of this disease. And what is one of the side effect of hydroxychloroquine....yeah such a great idea.


Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon May 18, 2020 8:10 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Yes, this is so far off recommendations that it is beyond ridiculous. It should be ather well known that this disease is known to effect the blood vessels. That Healthy young adults are dying of blood related issues because of this disease. And what is one of the side effect of hydroxychloroquine....yeah such a great idea.


Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


I think the WH has confirmed it.
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Postby Diahon » Mon May 18, 2020 8:11 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Yes, this is so far off recommendations that it is beyond ridiculous. It should be ather well known that this disease is known to effect the blood vessels. That Healthy young adults are dying of blood related issues because of this disease. And what is one of the side effect of hydroxychloroquine....yeah such a great idea.


Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


not at all

but, like, what's harm in him taking more and more?
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon May 18, 2020 8:12 pm

Diahon wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:
Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


not at all

but, like, what's harm in him taking more and more?



It's potentially harmful to him.
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Postby Diahon » Mon May 18, 2020 8:16 pm

I know that much, you know.

Diahon wrote:


Oh, is he? And he's shitting on scientific trials just for kicks while he's at it? Is he now claiming he's better than the scientists too?

Very well.

Let's go to Wikipedia to find out... things!

Common side effects include vomiting, headache, changes in vision, and muscle weakness. Severe side effects may include allergic reactions, vision problems, and heart problems.


I see, I see. More!

The most common adverse effects are nausea, stomach cramps, and diarrhea. The most serious adverse effects affect the eye, with dose-related retinopathy as a concern even after hydroxychloroquine use is discontinued.


More! More!

For short-term treatment of acute malaria, adverse effects can include abdominal cramps, diarrhea, heart problems, reduced appetite, headache, nausea and vomiting.


MORE! MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ---

For prolonged treatment of lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, adverse effects include the acute symptoms, plus altered eye pigmentation, acne, anemia, bleaching of hair, blisters in mouth and eyes, blood disorders, convulsions, vision difficulties, diminished reflexes, emotional changes, excessive coloring of the skin, hearing loss, hives, itching, liver problems or liver failure, loss of hair, muscle paralysis, weakness or atrophy, nightmares, psoriasis, reading difficulties, tinnitus, skin inflammation and scaling, skin rash, vertigo, weight loss, and occasionally urinary incontinence.


YES! MORE! MORE! MORE!

One of the most serious side effects is retinopathy (generally with chronic use).People taking 400 mg of hydroxychloroquine or less per day generally have a negligible risk of macular toxicity, whereas the risk begins to go up when a person takes the medication over five years or has a cumulative dose of more than 1000 grams. The daily safe maximum dose for eye toxicity can be computed from a person's height and weight. Macular toxicity is related to the total cumulative dose rather than the daily dose.

The macular changes are potentially serious. Advanced retinopathy is characterized by reduction of visual acuity and a "bull's eye" macular lesion which is absent in early involvement.


MOR--oh? That's it?

Hmph. Well then, time to sit back and jump in joy as absolutely --

heart problems


-- nothing --

liver problems or liver failure


-- happens.
FLEE.

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Postby Myrensis » Mon May 18, 2020 8:17 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Yes, this is so far off recommendations that it is beyond ridiculous. It should be ather well known that this disease is known to effect the blood vessels. That Healthy young adults are dying of blood related issues because of this disease. And what is one of the side effect of hydroxychloroquine....yeah such a great idea.


Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon May 18, 2020 8:30 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:
Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question



We cannot know for sure if he's taking it unless 1) we see him take it daily on live TV/ internet or 2) he drops dead from the side effects, and as much as I dislike him, I will not wish death on him or anyone else.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 18, 2020 8:54 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:
Do we know for sure he actually is taking it and not just claiming he is to make it look like it's the miracle drug he claims it is? I mean, all we have to go on is his word for it, and we all know how much his word is worth.


That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question


Imagine if he still got sick.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon May 18, 2020 8:55 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question



We cannot know for sure if he's taking it unless 1) we see him take it daily on live TV/ internet or 2) he drops dead from the side effects, and as much as I dislike him, I will not wish death on him or anyone else.


Please don't let him die. The militias are everywhere in my state now and if he dies, they'll probably blame Obama for it somehow and begin the mass killing.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 18, 2020 9:42 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question


Imagine if he still got sick.

Twittershits about him being deliberately infected by a Deep State martyr.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 18, 2020 9:44 pm

I wonder if the company that produces the drug suddenly gained a new major shareholder recently.

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Postby The Grims » Mon May 18, 2020 9:52 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
That was pretty much my thought. We know the man's ego is slightly more fragile.than cotton candy, and people said mean things about him when he first started blithering about a drug he knew nothing about working wonders for a virus it was never tested for, so I could very much see him claiming he's taking it and look! He hasn't dropped dead or caught coronavirus, that proves he was totally right all along and smarter than all those so called "Doctors"!

The Cult will eat it up without question


Imagine if he still got sick.


Side effects include heart failure. At his age not unlikely.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon May 18, 2020 9:55 pm

The Grims wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Imagine if he still got sick.


Side effects include heart failure. At his age not unlikely.

Don't forget Donald's diet of twenty Big Mactm's a day and burnt leather pieces jokingly referred to as "steaks".

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Postby Senkaku » Mon May 18, 2020 10:53 pm

The Grims wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Imagine if he still got sick.


Side effects include heart failure. At his age not unlikely.

the adderall cannot be helping either lol
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 18, 2020 11:49 pm

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President Donald Trump said Monday that he would prefer for government employees to wash Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's dishes if his wife or son was not there to do so.

While the dish-washing assertion was not among those reportedly investigated by the State Department inspector general fired by Trump last week at Pompeo's recommendation, the secretary of state faced dual investigations by the department watchdog into whether he had staffers perform personal chores and whether he looked to circumvent Congress in accelerating an arms deal with Saudi Arabia.

"Look, he's a high quality person, Mike. He's a very high quality, he's a very brilliant guy," Trump told reporters at the White House after he was asked whether he was concerned that Pompeo might have requested the watchdog's ouster to halt the investigations.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue May 19, 2020 1:48 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:Born rich.
President Donald Trump said Monday that he would prefer for government employees to wash Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's dishes if his wife or son was not there to do so.

While the dish-washing assertion was not among those reportedly investigated by the State Department inspector general fired by Trump last week at Pompeo's recommendation, the secretary of state faced dual investigations by the department watchdog into whether he had staffers perform personal chores and whether he looked to circumvent Congress in accelerating an arms deal with Saudi Arabia.

"Look, he's a high quality person, Mike. He's a very high quality, he's a very brilliant guy," Trump told reporters at the White House after he was asked whether he was concerned that Pompeo might have requested the watchdog's ouster to halt the investigations.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 19, 2020 2:47 am

I've been letting the news run on loop, so I've seen AG Barr say "As long as I'm attorney general I will not let this office be used for political ends" a half dozen times, including that slight twinge of self awareness as he said that looking up briefly.

In reference for his refusal to play along with "Obamagate".
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Postby Albrenia » Tue May 19, 2020 2:50 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I've been letting the news run on loop, so I've seen AG Barr say "As long as I'm attorney general I will not let this office be used for political ends" a half dozen times, including that slight twinge of self awareness as he said that looking up briefly.

In reference for his refusal to play along with "Obamagate".


Good on him for that, I guess.

I kind of wish we weren't at the point when refusing to take part in a distraction and smear campaign for the President was something noteworthy though.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 19, 2020 2:50 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I've been letting the news run on loop, so I've seen AG Barr say "As long as I'm attorney general I will not let this office be used for political ends" a half dozen times, including that slight twinge of self awareness as he said that looking up briefly.

In reference for his refusal to play along with "Obamagate".

He also said the Justice Department wasn't going to announce an investigation of Joe Biden, following in Ukraine's footsteps.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 19, 2020 3:13 am

Gormwood wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I've been letting the news run on loop, so I've seen AG Barr say "As long as I'm attorney general I will not let this office be used for political ends" a half dozen times, including that slight twinge of self awareness as he said that looking up briefly.

In reference for his refusal to play along with "Obamagate".

He also said the Justice Department wasn't going to announce an investigation of Joe Biden, following in Ukraine's footsteps.

So...who is going to be the next attorney general?


In other 'get the fuck out of here with that shit" news, Trump saying that he wants the states to decide about opening up, but if he disagrees he'll step in.

This fucking guy...
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:He also said the Justice Department wasn't going to announce an investigation of Joe Biden, following in Ukraine's footsteps.

So...who is going to be the next attorney general?


In other 'get the fuck out of here with that shit" news, Trump saying that he wants the states to decide about opening up, but if he disagrees he'll step in.

This fucking guy...


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Postby Loben The 2nd » Tue May 19, 2020 3:25 am

Maineiacs wrote:
Diahon wrote:
not at all

but, like, what's harm in him taking more and more?



It's potentially harmful to him.


You have everything to gain and he has nothing to lose, why on earth would you want to stop him?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 19, 2020 3:33 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

It's potentially harmful to him.


You have everything to gain and he has nothing to lose, why on earth would you want to stop him?

This is a rather disturbing insight into your thought process.
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