UFO Videos Officially Confirmed by US Government

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

Well a UFO does mean "Unidentified flying object"

I realize that. However, many believe that a UFO must be an alien spaceship, instead of an unidentified aircraft or a weather balloon or whatever. Hence why I said calling them a UFO brings to mind the wrong idea.

the US military terminology of UFO came first. Much like SJW's banning nono words there is no point to changing it. Call them "Unknown Aerial Entities" and withing 30 years tin foil hat wearers will think any mention of a UAE is either a country or an extraterrestrial invasion the government is covering up.

Such a sensationalistic clickbait OP title.

[Andsed]

You are aware that an INTERSTELLAR civilisation would necessarily be operating BETWEEN STARS not just on the surface of a single planet? And even so, we don't need to see the surface of a planet to notice a civilisation. We ourselves are beaming all manner of signals into space and have been ever since we invented the radio.


And as I said, and apparently am going to have to repeat many times before you understand it, if the things we know about the universe were seriously wrong then our technology wouldn't work. If we are so very wrong about the universe then why are you trusting the word of theoretical physicists who say that we could develop invisibility cloaks?


If the cloaking technology, whatever it is, stops light from reaching the vessel then light cannot reach the vessel and therefore the vessel cannot pick up the light that isn't reaching it.

and how are we going to observe their ships traveling between the stars?

I am not saying its wrong but perhaps aliens have learned things about the universe we don't know and therefore can do things we can't even conceive of yet.

You seem like you'd be one of those people who back in the day said hot air ballon would never fly or flight was impossible.

So our science says. An alien race might be thousands of years ahead of us but no only our understanding of the universe is the right one. Only the conditions in our solar system can lead to life. There can't possibility be things we will learn in the future that will make Star Trek a reality.

Your entire argument basically amounts to "well maybe they might have discovered some loophole we have no idea about!" Yes there is a possibility that they might know something we don't. But due to the fact that it would go against the laws that we have observed(and that while incomplete knowledge, is knowledge that we can say with confidence has some truth to it) it seems unlikely. That along with the fact that we have no actual proof of aliens coming to earth makes the entire idea seems far fetched.

[San Lumen]

and how are we going to observe their ships traveling between the stars?

I am not saying its wrong but perhaps aliens have learned things about the universe we don't know and therefore can do things we can't even conceive of yet.

You seem like you'd be one of those people who back in the day said hot air ballon would never fly or flight was impossible.

So our science says. An alien race might be thousands of years ahead of us but no only our understanding of the universe is the right one. Only the conditions in our solar system can lead to life. There can't possibility be things we will learn in the future that will make Star Trek a reality.

Your entire argument basically amounts to "well maybe they might have discovered some loophole we have no idea about!" Yes there is a possibility that they might know something we don't. But due to the fact that it would go against the laws that we have observed(and that while incomplete knowledge, is knowledge that we can say with confidence has some truth to it) it seems unlikely.

just because it seems unlikely doesnt mean it is. Explain the Lonnie Zamora case, Exeter Incident or Kenneth Arnold case.

and what if proof exists but the government is hiding it? Have you considered that?

[Andsed]

Your entire argument basically amounts to "well maybe they might have discovered some loophole we have no idea about!" Yes there is a possibility that they might know something we don't. But due to the fact that it would go against the laws that we have observed(and that while incomplete knowledge, is knowledge that we can say with confidence has some truth to it) it seems unlikely.

just because it seems unlikely doesnt mean it is. Explain the Lonnie Zamora case, Exeter Incident or Kenneth Arnold case.

and what if proof exists but the government is hiding it? Have you considered that?

But it does mean we can for the moment disregard it as conspiracy theories for the time being. And no I have not considered the government is hiding it because there is no indication to think they are currently doing so.

[San Lumen]

just because it seems unlikely doesnt mean it is. Explain the Lonnie Zamora case, Exeter Incident or Kenneth Arnold case.

and what if proof exists but the government is hiding it? Have you considered that?

But it does mean we can for the moment disregard it as conspiracy theories for the time being. And no I have not considered the government is hiding it because there is no indication to think they are currently doing so.

and what makes you think they arent?

Explain the Kecksburg incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

[Andsed]

But it does mean we can for the moment disregard it as conspiracy theories for the time being. And no I have not considered the government is hiding it because there is no indication to think they are currently doing so.

and what makes you think they arent?

Explain the Kecksburg incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

Because I have not seen sufficient proof indicating that is the case. Simply saying well they could is not proof, just more conspiracy theories.

[San Lumen]

and what makes you think they arent?

Explain the Kecksburg incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

Because I have not seen sufficient proof indicating that is the case. Simply saying well they could is not proof, just more conspiracy theories.

And if the government is hiding something what makes you think there would be evidence they are? Thats a inherent contradiction

and here are two of the most photos ufo photos ever taken, no one has explained and its been 70 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMinnvil ... hotographs

[Andsed]

Because I have not seen sufficient proof indicating that is the case. Simply saying well they could is not proof, just more conspiracy theories.

And if the government is hiding something what makes you think there would be evidence they are? Thats a inherent contradiction

Because governments are not infallible. If they were hiding a secret this big I would expect there to be some leaks or something indicating this. But all you have provided is insisting that "they could!" Yes Lumen they could. They could also all be lizard people or servants to an Eldritch god. But without any evidence there is no reason to assume that is the case.

[Chan Island]

Not surprised that there are things out there that the US government can't identify, but still disappointed how few people are talking about it. Pretty interesting stuff.

[Ifreann]

You are aware that an INTERSTELLAR civilisation would necessarily be operating BETWEEN STARS not just on the surface of a single planet? And even so, we don't need to see the surface of a planet to notice a civilisation. We ourselves are beaming all manner of signals into space and have been ever since we invented the radio.


And as I said, and apparently am going to have to repeat many times before you understand it, if the things we know about the universe were seriously wrong then our technology wouldn't work. If we are so very wrong about the universe then why are you trusting the word of theoretical physicists who say that we could develop invisibility cloaks?


If the cloaking technology, whatever it is, stops light from reaching the vessel then light cannot reach the vessel and therefore the vessel cannot pick up the light that isn't reaching it.

and how are we going to observe their ships traveling between the stars?

If they're nearby we use a telescope. If they're far away, we don't.

I am not saying its wrong but perhaps aliens have learned things about the universe we don't know and therefore can do things we can't even conceive of yet.

If they can make themselves invisible in the ways you seem to imagine then what we know about light is wrong. That means the physicist who says we can make invisibility cloaks must be wrong, because he's saying that based on a false understanding of how light operates.

You seem like you'd be one of those people who back in the day said hot air ballon would never fly or flight was impossible.

Only because you cannot understand the difference between people who have incoherent fears of new things and I, who am raising objections to your wild fantasies of magical technology that can do anything, objections based on well understood scientific principles.

So our science says. An alien race might be thousands of years ahead of us but no only our understanding of the universe is the right one.

It's getting really fucking annoying that you aren't actually engaging with anything I say and instead just going off on these stupid little rants about how arrogant I am for accepting science.

Only the conditions in our solar system can lead to life.

Here's you asking me if I think there's life on other planets and me saying yes.

Do you think there is life on other planets

Given the size of the universe that would seem to be a near certainty.

But you ignored that. You're not even arguing with me at this point. You're arguing with an imaginary person in your head who believes all this arrogant stuff you want to refute, you're just typing your half of that imagined argument at me for some reason.

There can't possibility be things we will learn in the future that will make Star Trek a reality.

You compared me to someone who would have refused to believe that hot air balloons could fly. At this point you are like someone who hears about a hot air balloon flying and concludes that it can be used to fly to and land on the sun, and if anyone tries to explain to you how that wouldn't work you go off calling them arrogant humans.

[The Flying Hand]

Ah this'll be good
"911 what's your emergency?"
"ALIIEEEEENNNNSSSSSS BITCH"

[Rojava Free State]

I realize that. However, many believe that a UFO must be an alien spaceship, instead of an unidentified aircraft or a weather balloon or whatever. Hence why I said calling them a UFO brings to mind the wrong idea.

the US military terminology of UFO came first. Much like SJW's banning nono words there is no point to changing it. Call them "Unknown Aerial Entities" and withing 30 years tin foil hat wearers will think any mention of a UAE is either a country or an extraterrestrial invasion the government is covering up.

Such a sensationalistic clickbait OP title.

Using the word entities only makes it sounds more like aliens.

UFO is the best of bad options.

[Rojava Free State]

Ah this'll be good
"911 what's your emergency?"
"ALIIEEEEENNNNSSSSSS BITCH"

I have a feeling this is what the 911 number was like when the war of the worlds happened.

[Ors Might]

Honestly, it’s just as likely to be magical winged unicorns that decided to fuck with us as it is aliens. We have equal evidence for both.

[Dylar]

Honestly, it’s just as likely to be magical winged unicorns that decided to fuck with us as it is aliens. We have equal evidence for both.

Would magical winged unicorns be considered aliens anyway?

[Rojava Free State]

Honestly, it’s just as likely to be magical winged unicorns that decided to fuck with us as it is aliens. We have equal evidence for both.

Would magical winged unicorns be considered aliens anyway?

Are the magical winged unicorns from Mars?

[Dylar]

Would magical winged unicorns be considered aliens anyway?

Are the magical winged unicorns from Mars?

I mean I figured they were from the Eye of Terror, not Mars.

[Ethel mermania]

Would magical winged unicorns be considered aliens anyway?

Are the magical winged unicorns from Mars?

Mars needs women

[Dylar]

Are the magical winged unicorns from Mars?

Mars needs women

Hang on I think I might've actually seen that one on SyFy

[Ors Might]

Honestly, it’s just as likely to be magical winged unicorns that decided to fuck with us as it is aliens. We have equal evidence for both.

Would magical winged unicorns be considered aliens anyway?

As long as they were born on Earth, no.

[Rojava Free State]

What if my conspiracy theory is right and Boris Johnson and Donald Trump are martians?

And more of their kind show up on earth one day and they're all as insufferable and stupid as their first two scouts?

[Galloism]

What if my conspiracy theory is right and Boris Johnson and Donald Trump are martians?

And more of their kind show up on earth one day and they're all as insufferable and stupid as their first two scouts?

Terran Empire when.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Honestly, it’s just as likely to be magical winged unicorns that decided to fuck with us as it is aliens. We have equal evidence for both.

We still have yet to find their sacred monastery in the mountains of Tibet.

[Thepeopl]

Lets humor Lumen for a minute. If aliens who were so advanced they could defy known laws of physics why would they bother with us? If they can do these near impossible things we would be nothing to them. Why would they spend resources covertly watching us? It makes no real sense and it seems quite arrogant they would waste time with us.

The spiders could say the same of humans, why would they bother learning how to make spider silk.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658765/
And the ants would say: why are they trying to learn how our antibiotics work?

https://news.ncsu.edu/2018/02/antibiotics-ants-2018/

Aliens could be travelling/ living in antimatter and have found a way to explore "matter" for only short bursts of time, hence the "covert" travelling.
Or they could have found a way to "break" the planck constant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant
And by doing so, have gained "invisibility" from us.

Aliens could be interested in the earth because of our stupidity or aggression or different types of blood.

Some scientists stumbled upon new methods to create things because their so was into crafting.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/03 ... materials/

[Ors Might]

Lets humor Lumen for a minute. If aliens who were so advanced they could defy known laws of physics why would they bother with us? If they can do these near impossible things we would be nothing to them. Why would they spend resources covertly watching us? It makes no real sense and it seems quite arrogant they would waste time with us.

The spiders could say the same of humans, why would they bother learning how to make spider silk.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658765/
And the ants would say: why are they trying to learn how our antibiotics work?

https://news.ncsu.edu/2018/02/antibiotics-ants-2018/

Aliens could be travelling/ living in antimatter and have found a way to explore "matter" for only short bursts of time, hence the "covert" travelling.
Or they could have found a way to "break" the planck constant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant
And by doing so, have gained "invisibility" from us.

Aliens could be interested in the earth because of our stupidity or aggression or different types of blood.

Some scientists stumbled upon new methods to create things because their so was into crafting.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/03 ... materials/

No lie, you just made a fucking baller concept for a scifi novel.