UFO Videos Officially Confirmed by US Government

[Ethel mermania]

If they figure out near light speed travel, they could figure out cloaking. A better question would be why would they use it coming to earth.

I would assume based on the energy needs of even near light travel they would use some sort of anti matter drive.

Near-light travel isn't practical with the distances we're talking about. They could, hypothetically travel years and for what? Also, I don't understand why they would care to develop cloaking technology unless they were some kind of sociologists.

Nevertheless, perfect cloaking is near-impossible, and for a spacecraft I'd venture to say it would be impossible.

Why did we develop cloaking technology?

[Rojava Free State]

When's the government gonna release footage of Sirenhead? Everybody is worried about COVID or UFOs, but you'll really be scared when the trees start speaking tornado siren.

After they finish injecting disinfectants.

Somebody do something. He's gonna eat us all.

[Senkaku]

Near-light travel isn't practical with the distances we're talking about. They could, hypothetically travel years and for what? Also, I don't understand why they would care to develop cloaking technology unless they were some kind of sociologists.

Nevertheless, perfect cloaking is near-impossible, and for a spacecraft I'd venture to say it would be impossible.

Why did we develop cloaking technology?

what do you think cloaking even means lmao

[Vaspelia]

I have seen a video of the UFO footage shown to the media (specifically one on the Guardian) that has been flowing around. Idk, the dudes on the radio chat quite relaxed on it like "hahah look at him go!". I agree the ayylmaos do exist, but the DoD could have some hidden reason to say "Ok you dirty masses, i know everything is burning but look at these funny videos of aliens!". To distract or something.

[Albrenia]

After they finish injecting disinfectants.

Somebody do something. He's gonna eat us all.

*air raid sirens sound in the distance*

Oh dear. Either I'm in Silent Hill... or Sirenhead is coming!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

After they finish injecting disinfectants.

Somebody do something. He's gonna eat us all.

Inflate yourself! Present a bigger target.

[San Lumen]

Only because we haven't figured out how.

And perhaps an alien race has figured it out and our assumptions and models are wrong and their ships can't be seen by our technology. Some UFO sightings involve maneuvers and technology that is simply impossible for any current level of tech we have.

Lumen, Einstein wasn't wrong in his theories of general and special relativity, rejecting them means you're rejecting the basis for physics as we currently understand it, in spite of the literally hundreds of experimental confirmations that say, yeah, it pretty much works that way. There are several mathematical proofs on why we can't do it. What you advocate for here isn't scientific, it's pseudo-religious for your alien-gods.

The more likely explanation for UFOs is always terrestrial in nature.

Your keep assuming our understanding is the only correct one and that everything can be explained. Go explain the Exeter sighting in 1965 or the Lonnie Zamora incident, or the Val Johnson incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Zamora_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_incident

[Ethel mermania]

Why did we develop cloaking technology?

what do you think cloaking even means lmao

Clearly I dont know, so why dont you show off your " intellect " and tell us

[Heloin]

Why did we develop cloaking technology?

what do you think cloaking even means lmao

When you have a fashionable cape for going on the town.

[Rojava Free State]

Lumen, Einstein wasn't wrong in his theories of general and special relativity, rejecting them means you're rejecting the basis for physics as we currently understand it, in spite of the literally hundreds of experimental confirmations that say, yeah, it pretty much works that way. There are several mathematical proofs on why we can't do it. What you advocate for here isn't scientific, it's pseudo-religious for your alien-gods.

The more likely explanation for UFOs is always terrestrial in nature.

Your keep assuming our understanding is the only correct one and that everything can be explained. Go explain the Exeter sighting in 1965 or the Lonnie Zamora incident, or the Val Johnson incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Zamora_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_incident

Someone saw something strange. It doesnt mean it was aliens. Two years ago Lumen, I and two friends of mine were going for a walk in Ypsilanti late at night. It was a cool October evening, sometime after 11 PM. As we reached Brooks street on the city's south side, we heard a low roaring noise approaching our location. Thinking it was a plane, we looked up only to be faced with what looked like a flying saucer. This craft was definitely no ordinary plane, and in terror we ran all the way back to our apartment block.

We saw something very strange that night. Whatever it was wasn't just a passenger plane or chopper. But even now I refuse to say "ALIENS!" because I don't know the origin of that craft. I entertain the idea that this was some kind of drone, since there are several military bases in Michigan, but I will never know the true origin of what I saw. I accept that people have seen UFOs. But you can't say aliens exist because you saw something unusual in the sky.

[Valrifell]

Lumen, Einstein wasn't wrong in his theories of general and special relativity, rejecting them means you're rejecting the basis for physics as we currently understand it, in spite of the literally hundreds of experimental confirmations that say, yeah, it pretty much works that way. There are several mathematical proofs on why we can't do it. What you advocate for here isn't scientific, it's pseudo-religious for your alien-gods.

The more likely explanation for UFOs is always terrestrial in nature.

Your keep assuming our understanding is the only correct one and that everything can be explained. Go explain the Exeter sighting in 1965 or the Lonnie Zamora incident, or the Val Johnson incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Zamora_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_incident

I've been very explicit that neither of those points are my assumptions.

You seem to think that our ideas of physics are entirely wrong in spite of several decades worth of predictions being experimentally verified. That data isn't worthless in the face of a few weird looking anecdotes.

I'd like to turn your own point against you, that you can't think of any other explanation other than aliens does not prevent such an explanation from existing.

[San Lumen]

Your keep assuming our understanding is the only correct one and that everything can be explained. Go explain the Exeter sighting in 1965 or the Lonnie Zamora incident, or the Val Johnson incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Zamora_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_incident

I've been very explicit that neither of those points are my assumptions.

You seem to think that our ideas of physics are entirely wrong in spite of several decades worth of predictions being experimentally verified. That data isn't worthless in the face of a few weird looking anecdotes.

I'd like to turn your own point against you, that you can't think of any other explanation other than aliens does not prevent such an explanation from existing.

I never said they are wrong. I merely said it’s arrogant to assume our current understanding of the universe and physics will always be.

Explain the Lonnie Zamora incident. Decades later it remains unexplained. Not even Project Blue Book could explain it

[Ifreann]

There are people all over the world who watch the skies all the time. And you can't make a spaceship invisible like in Star Trek. Especially not if you're decelerating towards Earth.

What's to say its not possible? An alien race could be far more advanced then us and figured out a way to do it.

Simple physics. Cloaking technology, such as it's presented in science fiction, would necessarily blind the cloaked vessel and create a pretty obvious shadow.

Our current understanding of Physics might not nessacarily be the right one.

Our current understanding of physics must be broadly accurate, since the technology we have built upon that understanding works. If we're wrong about how light behaves then cameras wouldn't work. And I trust you agree that cameras do work.

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There are people all over the world who watch the skies all the time. And you can't make a spaceship invisible like in Star Trek. Especially not if you're decelerating towards Earth.

Why not?

Same reason you can't both cover your eyes and see. And decelerating towards Earth would entail pointing the vessel's engine at Earth, something that would obviously be pretty noticeable. Which an alien vessel would have to do, since a vessel entering Earth's atmosphere at even near light speed would be literally the last thing to happen to life on this planet.

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...why? What about "cloaking" makes it a logical next step from developing gigantic super-powerful engines and ships that can cross between stars?


...again, what? Maybe they're only a few hundred years ahead and using fusion! Or maybe they're like Lumen thinks and they're using some insane hyperdrive and are millions of years beyond what we could even imagine!

Why, having never encountered aliens, does anyone assume we know anything about what they might be like?

If you can go .9C and not blow the fuck up when hitting a piece of space dust, Cloaking would be a piece of cake. We can cloak planes now. I have no idea what an alien would be like, this is all something called speculation.

We can't cloak planes.

[San Lumen]

What's to say its not possible? An alien race could be far more advanced then us and figured out a way to do it.

Simple physics. Cloaking technology, such as it's presented in science fiction, would necessarily blind the cloaked vessel and create a pretty obvious shadow.

Our current understanding of Physics might not nessacarily be the right one.

Our current understanding of physics must be broadly accurate, since the technology we have built upon that understanding works. If we're wrong about how light behaves then cameras wouldn't work. And I trust you agree that cameras do work.

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Why not?

Same reason you can't both cover your eyes and see. And decelerating towards Earth would entail pointing the vessel's engine at Earth, something that would obviously be pretty noticeable. Which an alien vessel would have to do, since a vessel entering Earth's atmosphere at even near light speed would be literally the last thing to happen to life on this planet.

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If you can go .9C and not blow the fuck up when hitting a piece of space dust, Cloaking would be a piece of cake. We can cloak planes now. I have no idea what an alien would be like, this is all something called speculation.

We can't cloak planes.

Again your thinking our understanding and our limits. A alien race hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us might know things about physics we don’t and therefore had the means to travel faster then light and do things we can’t conceive of. This arrogance of our model or understanding says this doesn’t mean there are things we haven’t discovered that could challenge it. Not too long ago it was thought that a moon was a always cold and dead and then we discovered volcanoes on Io.

He thought Neptune’s noon Triton was a dead world. It has cyrovolcanos. We thought life couldn’t exist anywhere in the solar system now there is evidence Europa might have an ocean and so could moons of Saturn. No one thought Proxima Centuri had a planet until a few years ago. Now there is evidence it could have as many as three. Never say anything is written in stone when it comes to physics and astronomy.

[Ifreann]

Simple physics. Cloaking technology, such as it's presented in science fiction, would necessarily blind the cloaked vessel and create a pretty obvious shadow.

Our current understanding of physics must be broadly accurate, since the technology we have built upon that understanding works. If we're wrong about how light behaves then cameras wouldn't work. And I trust you agree that cameras do work.

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Same reason you can't both cover your eyes and see. And decelerating towards Earth would entail pointing the vessel's engine at Earth, something that would obviously be pretty noticeable. Which an alien vessel would have to do, since a vessel entering Earth's atmosphere at even near light speed would be literally the last thing to happen to life on this planet.

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We can't cloak planes.

Again your thinking our understanding and our limits. A alien race hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us might know things about physics we don’t and therefore had the means to travel faster then light and do things we can’t conceive of. This arrogance of our model or understanding says this doesn’t mean there are things we haven’t discovered that could challenge it. Not too long ago it was thought that a moon was a always cold and dead and then we discovered volcanoes on Io.

It's not a question of how much we know, it's a question of whether the things we do know are accurate. If they are, then your fantasy of invisible aliens is exactly that, a fantasy. If the things we do know are seriously inaccurate then we aren't having this conversation, because computers don't work and cameras don't work and planes don't work so there cannot possibly be a conversation happening online about camera footage captured by a pilot.

He thought Neptune’s noon Triton was a dead world. It has cyrovolcanos. We thought life couldn’t exist anywhere in the solar system now there is evidence Europa might have an ocean and so could moons of Saturn. No one thought Proxima Centuri had a planet until a few years ago. Now there is evidence it could have as many as three. Never say anything is written in stone when it comes to physics and astronomy.

If you really believe that then hold your phone out a second floor window and let go. If gravity isn't written in stone then nothing will happen.

[Washatonia]

It’s old news. We’ve known about these videos for years, until the Government comes out and outright says what alien species we have been in contact these videos and videos like them will not be all that interesting.

[San Lumen]

Again your thinking our understanding and our limits. A alien race hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us might know things about physics we don’t and therefore had the means to travel faster then light and do things we can’t conceive of. This arrogance of our model or understanding says this doesn’t mean there are things we haven’t discovered that could challenge it. Not too long ago it was thought that a moon was a always cold and dead and then we discovered volcanoes on Io.

It's not a question of how much we know, it's a question of whether the things we do know are accurate. If they are, then your fantasy of invisible aliens is exactly that, a fantasy. If the things we do know are seriously inaccurate then we aren't having this conversation, because computers don't work and cameras don't work and planes don't work so there cannot possibly be a conversation happening online about camera footage captured by a pilot.

He thought Neptune’s noon Triton was a dead world. It has cyrovolcanos. We thought life couldn’t exist anywhere in the solar system now there is evidence Europa might have an ocean and so could moons of Saturn. No one thought Proxima Centuri had a planet until a few years ago. Now there is evidence it could have as many as three. Never say anything is written in stone when it comes to physics and astronomy.

If you really believe that then hold your phone out a second floor window and let go. If gravity isn't written in stone then nothing will happen.

I never said gravity wasn’t a thing

[Aclion]

WE'VE COME BACK TO RECLAIM OUR PLANET.

Trust me. You don't want it.

[Ors Might]

The concept of a ship traveling faster than light is pretty fucking concerning, even if it is possible to do. There are so many complications involved there once you start thinking about it. Advanced understanding of physics or no.

[San Lumen]

The concept of a ship traveling faster than light is pretty fucking concerning, even if it is possible to do. There are so many complications involved there once you start thinking about it. Advanced understanding of physics or no.

What’s concerning about it?

[Ors Might]

The concept of a ship traveling faster than light is pretty fucking concerning, even if it is possible to do. There are so many complications involved there once you start thinking about it. Advanced understanding of physics or no.

What’s concerning about it?

There’s a lot to unpack with it. Okay, so you know how moving an object with mass requires energy? Well to move faster than light, you would need approximately infinite energy. Do you see how this might be a problem?

To say nothing of what a nightmare deceleration would be. And they would have to decelerate if they intended on entering our atmosphere. Anything even approaching light speed would completely kill us all if it didn’t.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

Unexpected conspiracy theory: This stuff is faked by militaries to make the real secrets more secretive.

[Ifreann]

It's not a question of how much we know, it's a question of whether the things we do know are accurate. If they are, then your fantasy of invisible aliens is exactly that, a fantasy. If the things we do know are seriously inaccurate then we aren't having this conversation, because computers don't work and cameras don't work and planes don't work so there cannot possibly be a conversation happening online about camera footage captured by a pilot.


If you really believe that then hold your phone out a second floor window and let go. If gravity isn't written in stone then nothing will happen.

I never said gravity wasn’t a thing

Never say anything is written in stone when it comes to physics and astronomy.

Gravity isn't written in stone. Throw your phone out the window, see if it falls.

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The concept of a ship traveling faster than light is pretty fucking concerning, even if it is possible to do. There are so many complications involved there once you start thinking about it. Advanced understanding of physics or no.

What’s concerning about it?

The What If? blog, by the writer of XKCD, has an entry about what would happen if a pitcher threw a baseball at near light speed, 0.9c.

[Valrifell]

I never said gravity wasn’t a thing

Never say anything is written in stone when it comes to physics and astronomy.

Gravity isn't written in stone. Throw your phone out the window, see if it falls.

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What’s concerning about it?

The What If? blog, by the writer of XKCD, has an entry about what would happen if a pitcher threw a baseball at near light speed, 0.9c.

That's not fair, Iffy, we all know that Sir Isaac Newton carved the laws of physics into enchanted rune stones to preserve them in perpetuity, a spell only the powerful wizard Einstein was able to disrupt and modify to secure his legacy.

[Ethel mermania]

What's to say its not possible? An alien race could be far more advanced then us and figured out a way to do it.

Simple physics. Cloaking technology, such as it's presented in science fiction, would necessarily blind the cloaked vessel and create a pretty obvious shadow.

Our current understanding of Physics might not nessacarily be the right one.

Our current understanding of physics must be broadly accurate, since the technology we have built upon that understanding works. If we're wrong about how light behaves then cameras wouldn't work. And I trust you agree that cameras do work.

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Why not?

Same reason you can't both cover your eyes and see. And decelerating towards Earth would entail pointing the vessel's engine at Earth, something that would obviously be pretty noticeable. Which an alien vessel would have to do, since a vessel entering Earth's atmosphere at even near light speed would be literally the last thing to happen to life on this planet.

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If you can go .9C and not blow the fuck up when hitting a piece of space dust, Cloaking would be a piece of cake. We can cloak planes now. I have no idea what an alien would be like, this is all something called speculation.

We can't cloak planes.

We can change their electrical appearance. We are 25 years into the technology, give it another 1000 and see where we are.