Are Religion and Science Compatible? 2.0

[Necroghastia]

My response to pretty much all of this is to ask for proof, and also to ask why someone who punishes children for their ancestors' misdeeds is someone you claim to be a good guy. Seems like an asshole to me.

You want proof? For what?

That disease is a punishment from your deity, that your deity created the universe, that your deity granted people knowledge instead of people figuring it out on their own, that illnesses afflicting newborns and toddlers are punishments for someone else's misdeeds, and that these punishments are just.

PLUS, that's how life works. G-d punishes the children if they are over 20. We don't know G-d's reason or his ways, too miraculous and glorious for us to make of it, Selah.

Giving kids cancer is miraculous and glorious?

And who are you calling a something?

Not calling anyone a something. I'm calling a god that gives little kids cancer and other horrible diseases an asshole, especially if it's as punishment for someone else entirely.

[La Xinga]

You want proof? For what?

That disease is a punishment from your deity, that your deity created the universe, that your deity granted people knowledge instead of people figuring it out on their own, that illnesses afflicting newborns and toddlers are punishments for someone else's misdeeds, and that these punishments are just.

PLUS, that's how life works. G-d punishes the children if they are over 20. We don't know G-d's reason or his ways, too miraculous and glorious for us to make of it, Selah.

Giving kids cancer is miraculous and glorious?

And who are you calling a something?

Not calling anyone a something. I'm calling a god that gives little kids cancer and other horrible diseases an asshole, especially if it's as punishment for someone else entirely.

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Because it cannot come from anything else as we are created to perfectly for us to be created from nothing and for our cells magically to split apart, wonder how that happens. I wonder how our brains somehow function, not like it's G-d causing an electrons to move an amah. With all of this, I will tell you that the people that G-d granted knowledge to people to say that. With all of that, I think it's clear his punishments are just!

Is giving kids cancer miraculous and glorious? Indeed it is! Then what is not miraculous? Nothing! A nuclear bomb being dropped is miraculous, as how does a bomb just go into the air and explode? Fission uranium YADAHYADAHAYDAH, but they cannot keep on existing if G-d doesn't allow them to!

It's not someone else. Especially if you believe all there is to life is flesh and blood, and no spirit.

You want proof? For what?

PLUS, that's how life works. G-d punishes the children if they are over 20. We don't know G-d's reason or his ways, too miraculous and glorious for us to make of it, Selah.

And who are you calling a something?

It's safe to say that this guy's religion is not compatible with science.

[New Legland]

Yes, so long as science the Catholic Faith sticks to facts, it is compatible with the Catholic Faith science.

ftfy

[MC United]

It's been said that the Bible tells you how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. So to that extent, I see religion and science as fully compatible.

If your understanding of the Bible conflicts with observable scientific fact, then maybe the problem is with your understanding of the Bible. The same applies to other religions.

[Neanderthaland]

It's been said that the Bible tells you how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. So to that extent, I see religion and science as fully compatible.

If your understanding of the Bible conflicts with observable scientific fact, then maybe the problem is with your understanding of the Bible. The same applies to other religions.

While I admit that this kind of religious understanding is infinitely preferable to the creationist, I think it's still wrong.

It's as good as saying, "religion can't possibly be wrong. Ever. If it seems like it is wrong, you just have to find a way to stretch the meaning of the words until it seems right again."

[Necroghastia]

That disease is a punishment from your deity, that your deity created the universe, that your deity granted people knowledge instead of people figuring it out on their own, that illnesses afflicting newborns and toddlers are punishments for someone else's misdeeds, and that these punishments are just.

Giving kids cancer is miraculous and glorious?

Not calling anyone a something. I'm calling a god that gives little kids cancer and other horrible diseases an asshole, especially if it's as punishment for someone else entirely.

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Because it cannot come from anything else as we are created

Humanity's existence has nothing to do with the formation of the universe.

to perfectly

The human body is not perfect in the slightest. Most other animals do not have the pain of labor. Our respiratory tract runs alongside our digestive tract in such a way that makes choking quite easy. There's all manner of genetic disorders out there.

for us to be created from nothing

Evolution does not allege this.

and for our cells magically to split apart, wonder how that happens.

Here's an overview.

I wonder how our brains somehow function, not like it's G-d causing an electrons to move an amah.

There's no reason to believe that, so yeah, it's really not like that.

With all of this, I will tell you that the people that G-d granted knowledge to people to say that.

And you would be wrong.

With all of that, I think it's clear his punishments are just!

Even if you were right about all of this, it still does not demonstrate that your god is a just god.

Is giving kids cancer miraculous and glorious? Indeed it is!

yikes

Then what is not miraculous? Nothing! A nuclear bomb being dropped is miraculous, as how does a bomb just go into the air and explode?

Well, they don't "just" do that, we have to bring them up there and then-

Fission uranium YADAHYADAHAYDAH,

Well, never mind then.

but they cannot keep on existing if G-d doesn't allow them to!

What reason is there to believe that?

[Geneviev]

Yes, so long as science sticks to facts, it is compatible with the Catholic Faith.

Science does try to stick to facts. The Catholic faith sticks to tradition instead.

[Neanderthaland]

Yes, so long as science sticks to facts, it is compatible with the Catholic Faith.

Science does try to stick to facts. The Catholic faith sticks to tradition instead.

Must... resist... urge to sing.

[Geneviev]

Science does try to stick to facts. The Catholic faith sticks to tradition instead.

Must... resist... urge to sing.

No, you should sing. Always. That's what musicals teach us.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

I am confused by the Big Bang theory being biology. But maybe they just teach controversial science all at once.

It isn't biology, which is why I doubt the scientific integrity of what was being taught.

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Yes, so long as science sticks to facts, it is compatible with the Catholic Faith.

??? I didn't understand the logical connection.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

It is controversial just because so many people disagree with it. That doesn't mean I agree with them.

"So many people" disagree that the world is round. Is that a controversial subject in schools?

I couldn't understand before that some people still think the earth is flat.But now I'm starting to read about the feasibility study of flat planets by interesting scientists.But that's science fiction

[Hanafuridake]

It isn't biology, which is why I doubt the scientific integrity of what was being taught.

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

The Big Bang falls under astrophysics which is a different field of science from biology.

[Geneviev]

It isn't biology, which is why I doubt the scientific integrity of what was being taught.

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

That's not what the Big Bang is about. The universe isn't alive, so it's not biology. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

The Big Bang falls under astrophysics which is a different field of science from biology.

Cambrian Big Bang theory being biology

[Kowani]

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

That's not what the Big Bang is about. The universe isn't alive, so it's not biology. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

Although we often use the terminology “dead” stars, stars do not fulfill the criteria for life.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

What's the problem?Big Bang theory being biology is supported by fossil evidence.Although it's called the big bang, it's been going on for millions of years

That's not what the Big Bang is about. The universe isn't alive, so it's not biology. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

It's just a rhetorical device to describe the emergence of invertebrates in the Cambrian period. Like a big bang.

[Farnhamia]

The Big Bang falls under astrophysics which is a different field of science from biology.

Cambrian Big Bang theory being biology

No one calls it that. It's called the "Cambrian explosion" or the "Cambrian radiation."

[Geneviev]

The Big Bang falls under astrophysics which is a different field of science from biology.

Cambrian Big Bang theory being biology

I think that's something different.

[Neanderthaland]

The Big Bang falls under astrophysics which is a different field of science from biology.

Cambrian Big Bang theory being biology

The "Cambrian Explosion" is biology. There is no "Cambrian Big Bang."

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Cambrian Big Bang theory being biology

No one calls it that. It's called the "Cambrian explosion" or the "Cambrian radiation."

Emmmmm..... Ok ,I translated my mother tongue into English again .Cambrian Explosion ,dammit

[Geneviev]

No one calls it that. It's called the "Cambrian explosion" or the "Cambrian radiation."

Emmmmm..... Ok ,I translated my mother tongue into English again .Cambrian Explosion ,dammit

Those direct translations are a problem with English. It can drive you foxdevilswild sometimes.

[The Grims]

Yes, so long as science sticks to facts, it is compatible with the Catholic Faith.

"As long as X only says what Y wants to hear X and Y are compatible".

[Godular]

You want proof? For what?

PLUS, that's how life works. G-d punishes the children if they are over 20. We don't know G-d's reason or his ways, too miraculous and glorious for us to make of it, Selah.

And who are you calling a something?

It's safe to say that this guy's religion is not compatible with science.

It’s safe to say this guy’s religion just isn’t compatible.

‘With what?’ you might ask. Answer: ‘Yes!’

[Hanafuridake]

Kind of curious since most people have just been focused on Christianity, what do you specifically think about Hinduism, Buddhism, and other Asian religions' compatibility with science?