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by Godular » Wed May 06, 2020 10:34 pm

by Petravia » Wed May 06, 2020 10:42 pm
by Godular » Wed May 06, 2020 10:59 pm
Petravia wrote:Believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one.

by La Xinga » Thu May 07, 2020 6:35 am
Godular wrote:La xinga wrote:Wait wait wait, what do you mean by the first thing? It doesn't mean but it could be.
And.....did I say medicine?
Religion is not in itself a cure. While a religious person might use it as a motivation to give up a bad habit or some other such thing, it is not an exclusive accomplishment.
by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 7:01 am
The sun healed Abraham after he mad a circumcision ON HIMSELF, one of the biggest tests of all time!
Science cannot either, Bcuz tell me the definition of science!
G-d heals the person.

by Geneviev » Thu May 07, 2020 7:09 am
Petravia wrote:Religion and science are compatible. it just depends on how you view religion and science together. if you take the bible, or any religious text at face value, you will be disappointed. however, there are many reasons god can exist within the scientific principles we know. believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one. I personally identify as catholic and love both science and history, because i understand the bible (at least parts of it) were written to tell a story, not a history. if you can make the distinction between historical books of the bible and metaphorical books of the bible, you can have both religion and science in your life.
by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 7:17 am
Geneviev wrote:Petravia wrote:Religion and science are compatible. it just depends on how you view religion and science together. if you take the bible, or any religious text at face value, you will be disappointed. however, there are many reasons god can exist within the scientific principles we know. believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one. I personally identify as catholic and love both science and history, because i understand the bible (at least parts of it) were written to tell a story, not a history. if you can make the distinction between historical books of the bible and metaphorical books of the bible, you can have both religion and science in your life.
Believing there is no God and believing there is a God both don't have to be based on faith.

by Page » Thu May 07, 2020 7:18 am
Petravia wrote:Religion and science are compatible. it just depends on how you view religion and science together. if you take the bible, or any religious text at face value, you will be disappointed. however, there are many reasons god can exist within the scientific principles we know. believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one. I personally identify as catholic and love both science and history, because i understand the bible (at least parts of it) were written to tell a story, not a history. if you can make the distinction between historical books of the bible and metaphorical books of the bible, you can have both religion and science in your life.

by Bolindia » Thu May 07, 2020 7:22 am

by Geneviev » Thu May 07, 2020 7:34 am

by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 7:57 am
Page wrote:Petravia wrote:Religion and science are compatible. it just depends on how you view religion and science together. if you take the bible, or any religious text at face value, you will be disappointed. however, there are many reasons god can exist within the scientific principles we know. believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one. I personally identify as catholic and love both science and history, because i understand the bible (at least parts of it) were written to tell a story, not a history. if you can make the distinction between historical books of the bible and metaphorical books of the bible, you can have both religion and science in your life.
Disbelief is not a type of faith.
Do you believe there is a pink horse standing inside your bathroom right now? There could be, it's not impossible, but you don't have a reason to believe it, so you don't. That isn't faith, that's just lack of belief.

by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu May 07, 2020 8:02 am
Bolindia wrote:...Christianity can be compatible because I go to a Christian school and my biology teacher who is also Christian teaches about evolution and the Big Bang theory...
by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 8:04 am

by La Xinga » Thu May 07, 2020 8:12 am
Godular wrote:La xinga wrote:That is just your belief.
No, it is my evidence based opinion. Trying to claim it is a ‘belief’ implies a lack of evidence, and this is not so.The sun healed Abraham after he mad a circumcision ON HIMSELF, one of the biggest tests of all time!
Cool irrelevant story. I seem to recall other folks saying we don’t use religious texts as medical textbooks. That story is one example of why.Science cannot either, Bcuz tell me the definition of science!
Here is one of many, but if you’re gonna start yowling about linguistic minutiae within that definition you’re barking up the wrong tree.G-d heals the person.
Inasmuch as belief in a fairy tale can have a measurable physiological effect. I generally identify it as the ’placebo effect’ though.

by The Alma Mater » Thu May 07, 2020 8:22 am

by The Alma Mater » Thu May 07, 2020 8:24 am
Page wrote:Petravia wrote:Religion and science are compatible. it just depends on how you view religion and science together. if you take the bible, or any religious text at face value, you will be disappointed. however, there are many reasons god can exist within the scientific principles we know. believing there is 100% no god is just as much a faith based decision as believing there is one. I personally identify as catholic and love both science and history, because i understand the bible (at least parts of it) were written to tell a story, not a history. if you can make the distinction between historical books of the bible and metaphorical books of the bible, you can have both religion and science in your life.
Disbelief is not a type of faith.
Do you believe there is a pink horse standing inside your bathroom right now? There could be, it's not impossible, but you don't have a reason to believe it, so you don't. That isn't faith, that's just lack of belief.

by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu May 07, 2020 8:32 am

by Geneviev » Thu May 07, 2020 8:46 am
by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 8:47 am
La xinga wrote:Godular wrote:
No, it is my evidence based opinion. Trying to claim it is a ‘belief’ implies a lack of evidence, and this is not so.
Cool irrelevant story. I seem to recall other folks saying we don’t use religious texts as medical textbooks. That story is one example of why.
Here is one of many, but if you’re gonna start yowling about linguistic minutiae within that definition you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Inasmuch as belief in a fairy tale can have a measurable physiological effect. I generally identify it as the ’placebo effect’ though.
Sir/maam, please tell me your evidence then.
And no, everything is in religion for me, which includes medicine. Every subject is in it.
Science does not mean medicine, so how can that heal you?
Wait wait wait......it's not a fairy tale, it's reality!
by Godular » Thu May 07, 2020 8:49 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Bolindia wrote:
Where the fuck did you get a giant turtle, damn you so ignorant, do you think people who have a religion are all idiots if so, than I feel sorry for you.
Avatar Kurma (which means turtle) is part of the worlds oldest still practiced and third largest religion.
How can you not know about it ?

by Alvecia » Thu May 07, 2020 8:49 am

by Geneviev » Thu May 07, 2020 8:51 am
Alvecia wrote:Geneviev wrote:I am confused by the Big Bang theory being biology. But maybe they just teach controversial science all at once.
There's no controversy surrounding the big bang or evolution. That's just something made up by the minority that reject them to make their side of it sound more "equal", when it's anything but.
It's like calling "round earth" a controversial subject.
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