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The Future of China

The CCP will continue to rule indefinitely
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The CCP's days are numbered
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Other (Explain)
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Ayro Va
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Postby Ayro Va » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:45 pm

I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:46 pm

Ayro Va wrote:I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.


Any input about the topic at hand? Is China doomed, destined to rule, or a fake place made up by Bernie Sanders?

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Sundiata
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:48 pm

China needs the Catholic Church.

The treatment of Christians in China is appalling. Blessed are the Catholics in China who face persecution for Christ. They will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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New Kvenland
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Postby New Kvenland » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:49 pm

China and the CCP seem nowhere near a legitimate crisis. Things will need to get dramatically worse before their power is really threatened, and even then it's most likely gonna happen via slow democratization that keeps the ruling class in power. The US's day is coming significantly sooner than China's is
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:49 pm

Ayro Va wrote:I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.


The US are rank amateurs compared to the PRC
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:51 pm

Ayro Va wrote:I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.

I'm not American. You've failed at 50 cent armying
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Postby New Kvenland » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:54 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ayro Va wrote:I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.


The US are rank amateurs compared to the PRC


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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Wait until everyone discovers they were lying about recovery andthe second wave fits


Rumors about it having started, the second wave, are circulating actually. I personally think it’s too soon when for us in the Northern Hemisphere, that won’t happen until the Fall.

I don't buy the winter makes it worse theory, considering it's also happening in the tropics
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:55 pm

I would love to see the Chinese populace rise up and overthrow the CCP, but that doens't seem terribly likely unfortunately. There's nothing the West can do, because as was pointed out earlier, China has nukes and a lot of economic hold.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:56 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Rumors about it having started, the second wave, are circulating actually. I personally think it’s too soon when for us in the Northern Hemisphere, that won’t happen until the Fall.

I don't buy the winter makes it worse theory, considering it's also happening in the tropics


It’s not the cold really, what has people worried. It’s having the second CoVID wave hit while also at the height of influenza season.
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:56 pm

There ain't no future and there ain't no hope.

That goes for everywhere.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:57 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I don't buy the winter makes it worse theory, considering it's also happening in the tropics


It’s not the cold really, what has people worried. It’s having the second CoVID wave hit while also at the height of influenza season.

I see
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:58 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s not the cold really, what has people worried. It’s having the second CoVID wave hit while also at the height of influenza season.

I see


Have both happen at the same time and the strain on the healthcare system could be even more catastrophic than it has been at the moment.
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Reznoviya
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Postby Reznoviya » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:59 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Ayro Va wrote:I hate the U.S., stop doing Imperialism.

I'm not American. You've failed at 50 cent armying



You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:01 pm

Reznoviya wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I'm not American. You've failed at 50 cent armying



You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

Damn Poe's Law.

If you're serious
*faceplam* *facepalm* *facepalm*
If you're joking:
:rofl: :lol2: :rofl:
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Reznoviya
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Postby Reznoviya » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:02 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:I would love to see the Chinese populace rise up and overthrow the CCP, but that doens't seem terribly likely unfortunately. There's nothing the West can do, because as was pointed out earlier, China has nukes and a lot of economic hold.



Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:02 pm

Reznoviya wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I'm not American. You've failed at 50 cent armying



You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

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Reznoviya
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Postby Reznoviya » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:02 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Reznoviya wrote:

You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

Damn Poe's Law.

If you're serious
*faceplam* *facepalm* *facepalm*
If you're joking:
:rofl: :lol2: :rofl:

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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:03 pm

Reznoviya wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I would love to see the Chinese populace rise up and overthrow the CCP, but that doens't seem terribly likely unfortunately. There's nothing the West can do, because as was pointed out earlier, China has nukes and a lot of economic hold.



Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

The 50 cent army is in full force today...
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:04 pm

Reznoviya wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I'm not American. You've failed at 50 cent armying



You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

You do realise that Australia is the colony, not the coloniser, right?
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Reznoviya
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Postby Reznoviya » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:05 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Reznoviya wrote:

Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

The 50 cent army is in full force today...



The Anti-Communist Joe Goebbels-Rob Conquest Army is in full force today too!

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USS Monitor
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:05 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The amount of Doomerism, Defeatism, and Pessimism on NSG is absolutely astronomical.


A lot of it stems from recent times, with the US basically abandoning its allies and interests in the rest of world in a number of cases. China is taking advantage of that and it at the very least makes them appear to be a rising power.


This is one of the better takes I've seen recently about tensions with China.

The US is losing ground relative to China, and it's not all about whatever China is doing. It's also very much about what the US is doing, and the US has dropped the ball. We have an incompetent leadership that ignores facts and routinely bungles diplomatic relations with our allies.
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Postby Reznoviya » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:06 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Reznoviya wrote:

You a Aussie, so you still imperialism cos the UK.

You do realise that Australia is the colony, not the coloniser, right?


You do realize that your country housed Brutal Penal Colonies?

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Pax Nerdvana
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:08 pm

Reznoviya wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I would love to see the Chinese populace rise up and overthrow the CCP, but that doens't seem terribly likely unfortunately. There's nothing the West can do, because as was pointed out earlier, China has nukes and a lot of economic hold.



Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

I have my opinions about communism. You're certainly welcome to your beliefs like anyone. Anyway, I didn't even say anything about socialism.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:09 pm

New Kvenland wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The US are rank amateurs compared to the PRC


Image


In all those places we are invited child we are Mere amatuers, bumbling buffoons. This is how people who learned their lessons from the London school of economics do it

https://qz.com/1223768/china-debt-trap- ... oad-plans/
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

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