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Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:05 amby Aikoriland
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:I hope you don't get angry when you see Christianity in China.In fact, there are many people who believe in Christianity in China. It's just that they don't understand the doctrines as much as you do（They think If you believe in God, you have money）
Some churches are also directly controlled by the CCP, iirc.
I remember reading last year that all churches in China were required to take down pictures of Jesus and other religious figures and replace them with ones of Xi Jinping and Mao Zedong.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:05 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Even if the Qing Dynasty came back, Xinjiang and Tibet would not be independent.Stop dreaming.The ROC drew eleven lines. According to that map, China will occupy more land in the South China Sea than it does today.Why do you all hope for the ROC？
I'm guessing that the ROC is keeping their claims, because they do not want to be perceived as too weak or giving in to the demands of others. It's at least a democratic and friendly, non-manipulative state, hence my high hopes for them.
His democratic history is not long.Of course, Taiwan is now a democracy.But friendly, non-manipulative state,It's better to have a good look at what they've done
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)（Before being defeated by the CCP, ROC really occupied these islands. At that time, Southeast Asian countries were not independent. So no one has any objection）
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:13 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Aikoriland wrote:Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Some churches are also directly controlled by the CCP, iirc.
I remember reading last year that all churches in China were required to take down pictures of Jesus and other religious figures and replace them with ones of Xi Jinping and Mao Zedong.
They are not led by the Pope.And there is a law in China that preaching is illegal. The reason is that people have the freedom to choose religion or not. Missionary suspected of Ideological Manipulation.Preaching is suspected of interfering with the thoughts of others
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:39 amby Sundiata
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Sundiata wrote:The prevailing Maoist cultural ethos is deeply rooted in materialist metaphysics. Beating the CCP isn't as simple as sanctions or revolution. Beating the CCP requires a new way of thinking about the world, a new sense of what the world is. The Maoist doctrine of the world presumes that the world simply is solid substance and stops there. That kind of materialism is not conducive to a culture that generates or sustains life. The CCP needs a drastic philosophical shift away from Marx and towards Aquinas. But more broadly, they need Christ.
I hope you don't get angry when you see Christianity in China.In fact, there are many people who believe in Christianity in China. It's just that they don't understand the doctrines as much as you do（They think If you believe in God, you have money）
Shameful.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:51 amby Vivolkha
Just how many times the downfall of the CCP has been wrongly predicted?
No communist regime, in human history, has fallen because of internal revolution without the system being dismantled by the Communist Party in question itself (USSR), or without being beholden to another communist country where the Communist Party did so (all of communist Eastern Europe and Africa), or without being flat-out invaded by another country (Grenada).
The possibility of internal revolution in China, or any other current communist regime for that matter, is extremely unlikely in the short- and even mid-term.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:01 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Sundiata wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:I hope you don't get angry when you see Christianity in China.In fact, there are many people who believe in Christianity in China. It's just that they don't understand the doctrines as much as you do（They think If you believe in God, you have money）
Shameful.
Just give up the idea. China was a materialistic country before Christianity,over 2000 years.You might as well study how to convert Turkey to Christianity.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:34 amby Heloin
Vivolkha wrote:Just how many times the downfall of the CCP has been wrongly predicted?
No communist regime, in human history, has fallen because of internal revolution without the system being dismantled by the Communist Party in question itself (USSR), or without being beholden to another communist country where the Communist Party did so (all of communist Eastern Europe and Africa), or without being flat-out invaded by another country (Grenada).
The possibility of internal revolution in China, or any other current communist regime for that matter, is
extremely unlikely in the short- and even mid-term.
Romania.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:46 amby Parxland
China's in the midst of a golden age. Current events are not going to change this fact.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:47 amby Infected Mushroom
I believe that China will come out of its current issues stronger than ever.
It has the population, it has the economy, it has the production.
I have also heard that Russia and China are jointly operating a few oil pipelines. There will be great economic cooperation between China and Russia in addition to China and the USA. This should bring in lots of money and opportunities for the Chinese people.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:50 amby Washington Resistance Army
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:How can it be when it is backed by actual production of goods?
The GDP has, to my understanding, been growing every year and with every passing year, the infrastructure and technology of the Chinese republic has been getting better
There's a lot of emphasis on China's currency but its economy is actually backed by a massive productive workforce, large consumer base, and the production of necessary goods for the world economy
Because there's a lot more that goes into a modern economy than production of goods, and even that isn't safe. It has a debt bubble, a housing bubble, production is increasingly being shifted to places like Vietnam or India etc etc. The Chinese economy is far from invulnerable. Quite the opposite, it's arguably the weakest of any major nation.
Quoting this for you Kefkashroom.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:00 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Because there's a lot more that goes into a modern economy than production of goods, and even that isn't safe. It has a debt bubble, a housing bubble, production is increasingly being shifted to places like Vietnam or India etc etc. The Chinese economy is far from invulnerable. Quite the opposite, it's arguably the weakest of any major nation.
Quoting this for you Kefkashroom.
Quoting a book for you,Connectography：Mapping the future of glohal giviliation ---write by (U.S)Parag Khanna
Industrial chain is turning to China.The bubble of the service and financial sector is much bigger than China's debt bubble.India and Vietnam have no comparative advantage in manufacturing industry and can only undertake part of low-end manufacturing industry.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:14 amby Shanghai industrial complex
The main problems of China's economy are weak domestic and international consumer demand and industrial overcapacity.The purpose of China's "the belt and road" plan is to manufacture foreign consumer demand.Find buyers for excess capacity.The other plan 2025 is to replace the current position of developed countries in the global industrial chain.In other words, China has ambitious plans to occupy all industries in the global industrial division, from high-end to low-end industries.I think this is the fundamental contradiction between the United States and China at present.Because the United States is the actual controller of the current high-end industrial chain.The biggest problem facing the west is not the competition of China, but the loss of manufacturing industry caused by industrial hollowing out.The development of financial industry and service industry can bring profits, but it is also a double-edged sword.
China's future lies in new technology. The future of the West also lies in new technology.Whoever first invents some new revolutionary invention will have an advantage.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:22 amby An Alan Smithee Nation
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:China's future lies in new technology. The future of the West also lies in new technology.Whoever first invents some new revolutionary invention will have an advantage.
Totally agree. China's massive investment in AI, and their access to so much data from their large population, makes me think they have an edge.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:30 amby Infected Mushroom
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Because there's a lot more that goes into a modern economy than production of goods, and even that isn't safe. It has a debt bubble, a housing bubble, production is increasingly being shifted to places like Vietnam or India etc etc. The Chinese economy is far from invulnerable. Quite the opposite, it's arguably the weakest of any major nation.
Quoting this for you Kefkashroom.
I don't believe Vietnam and India can replace the People's Republic as the world's workshop.
They are still far behind and they do not have that perfect balance that China has between cheap labour, quality, political stability and technology. I mean just look at the GDPs, the gap is huge.
Maybe in a few decades but by then China will have developed even more power to create new specialisations with respect to the world economy. For the foreseeable future, the USA-China economic trade and focus is still going to be the centre of the world economy.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:33 amby Aikoriland
Infected Mushroom wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Quoting this for you Kefkashroom.
I don't believe Vietnam and India can replace the People's Republic as the world's workshop.
They are still far behind and they do not have that perfect balance that China has between cheap labour,
quality, political stability and
technology. I mean just look at the GDPs, the gap is huge.
Maybe in a few decades but by then China will have developed even more power to create new specialisations with respect to the world economy. For the foreseeable future, the USA-China economic trade and focus is still going to be the centre of the world economy.
Quality?
Technology? Well, they do an amazing job at stealing Japanese, Taiwanese, American, and European tech, I will give them that.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 amby Samudera Darussalam
Infected Mushroom wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Quoting this for you Kefkashroom.
I don't believe Vietnam and India can replace the People's Republic as the world's workshop.
They are still far behind and they do not have that perfect balance that China has between cheap labour, quality, political stability and technology. I mean just look at the GDPs, the gap is huge.
Maybe in a few decades but by then China will have developed even more power to create new specialisations with respect to the world economy. For the foreseeable future, the USA-China economic trade and focus is still going to be the centre of the world economy.
Quality? I'm sorry to say this, but if the goods are so good to begin with why Chinese masks are not qualified to be used?
Political stability. Afaik Vietnam is more stable than China these past few years, but I may be wrong.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:42 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I don't believe Vietnam and India can replace the People's Republic as the world's workshop.
They are still far behind and they do not have that perfect balance that China has between cheap labour, quality, political stability and technology. I mean just look at the GDPs, the gap is huge.
Maybe in a few decades but by then China will have developed even more power to create new specialisations with respect to the world economy. For the foreseeable future, the USA-China economic trade and focus is still going to be the centre of the world economy.
Quality? I'm sorry to say this, but if the goods are so good to begin with why Chinese masks are not qualified to be used?
Political stability. Afaik Vietnam is more stable than China these past few years, but I may be wrong.
You know ,last month China sold two billion masks in the United States.If anyone buys so many fake masks...
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:51 amby Infected Mushroom
Aikoriland wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I don't believe Vietnam and India can replace the People's Republic as the world's workshop.
They are still far behind and they do not have that perfect balance that China has between cheap labour,
quality, political stability and
technology. I mean just look at the GDPs, the gap is huge.
Maybe in a few decades but by then China will have developed even more power to create new specialisations with respect to the world economy. For the foreseeable future, the USA-China economic trade and focus is still going to be the centre of the world economy.
Quality?
Technology? Well, they do an amazing job at stealing Japanese, Taiwanese, American, and European tech, I will give them that.
China is making lots of technological advances, take a look at this link for example:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/28-incredible-made-in-china-innovations-that-are-changing-the-world/ss-BBRWnlD#image=1Lots of Chinese inventions in 2020 alone.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:55 amby Nakena
China will become part of the Evil Empire ruled by Empress Kim Yo-jong in form of an absolute totalitarian monarchy.
Those who refuse to submit to her will be destroyed in horrible biomechanical experimentation which will also lead to the creation of new cyborg technologies and unspeakable horrors.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:56 amby Heloin
A lot of those aren't that impressive, and some of them like the trackless tram and the solar powered highway are actively stupid.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:57 amby Samudera Darussalam
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:Quality? I'm sorry to say this, but if the goods are so good to begin with why Chinese masks are not qualified to be used?
Political stability. Afaik Vietnam is more stable than China these past few years, but I may be wrong.
You know ,last month China sold two billion masks in the United States.If anyone buys so many fake masks...
Canada
...claims made by Ottawa that about 1 million KN95 face masks bought from China failed to meet federal Covid-19 standards for use by frontline health professionals...
Europe
1. Thousands of testing kits and medical masks are below standard or defective, according to authorities in Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands.
2. Dutch officials said that the masks did not fit and that their filters did not work as intended, even though they had a quality certificate.
3. Spain’s government encountered similar problems with testing kits ordered from a Chinese company.
4. Turkey also announced that it had found some testing kits ordered from Chinese companies were not sufficiently accurate.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:58 amby Shanghai industrial complex
The picture of this website is not very professional...
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:58 amby Aikoriland
Stolen ideas and cheap inferior knockoffs of Japanese, Taiwanese, American, and European inventions are not real innovation.
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:06 amby Shanghai industrial complex
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:You know ,last month China sold two billion masks in the United States.If anyone buys so many fake masks...
Canada
...claims made by Ottawa that about 1 million KN95 face masks bought from China failed to meet federal Covid-19 standards for use by frontline health professionals...
Europe
1. Thousands of testing kits and medical masks are below standard or defective, according to authorities in Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands.
2. Dutch officials said that the masks did not fit and that their filters did not work as intended, even though they had a quality certificate.
3. Spain’s government encountered similar problems with testing kits ordered from a Chinese company.
4. Turkey also announced that it had found some testing kits ordered from Chinese companies were not sufficiently accurate.
You should know that the quality inspection is carried out in the importing country.OK,Now, in order to solve these problems, China has announced the latest policy. All export commodities must pass China's quality inspection before passing the customs.（If your national test standard conflicts with China, you may not be able to purchase these masks）And can only be purchased from suppliers designated by the CPC（Even if you find a supplier of inferior masks, you can't buy them).So you would't get a mask that doesn't meet the standards.Satisfied? In the future, all medical supplies have passed bilateral quality certification
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Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:11 amby Infected Mushroom
Aikoriland wrote:Stolen ideas and cheap inferior knockoffs of Japanese, Taiwanese, American, and European inventions are not real innovation.
it says nothing about stolen ideas or inferior quality from the source
contrary to popular opinion, China has always been one of the world's greatest invention-making civilisations
it has been this way since the ancient days and the chances are good that in the future, China will invent more things
