The Future of China

[Ethel mermania]

A lot of it stems from recent times, with the US basically abandoning its allies and interests in the rest of world in a number of cases. China is taking advantage of that and it at the very least makes them appear to be a rising power.

This is one of the better takes I've seen recently about tensions with China.

The US is losing ground relative to China, and it's not all about whatever China is doing. It's also very much about what the US is doing, and the US has dropped the ball. We have an incompetent leadership that ignores facts and routinely bungles diplomatic relations with our allies.

Tell that to Vietnam and japan

[Australian rePublic]

You do realise that Australia is the colony, not the coloniser, right?

You do realize that your country housed Brutal Penal Colonies?

Yes I do. As said earlier, we were the colony, not the coloniser. Also, that was in the past. I don't give a shit what happened in the past. The past was a cruel and horrible place. All those people who ran the penal colonies are dead. The actions are irrelevant to how we should play the world forward. I only care about what'll happen in the present and the future. As far as the present and the future are concerned, China is a rogue state, which is dangerous to the whole world. The UK did fall in that catagory in the past, but the people responsible for all that are dead, along with the threat. I don't care about dead threats, I care about living threats, and China is very much a living threat

[Australian rePublic]

This is one of the better takes I've seen recently about tensions with China.

The US is losing ground relative to China, and it's not all about whatever China is doing. It's also very much about what the US is doing, and the US has dropped the ball. We have an incompetent leadership that ignores facts and routinely bungles diplomatic relations with our allies.

Tell that to Vietnam and japan

That was 50 years ago

[Reznoviya]

You do realize that your country housed Brutal Penal Colonies?

Yes I do. As said earlier, we were the colony, not the coloniser. Also, that was in the past. I don't give a shit what happened in the past. The past was a cruel and horrible place. All those people who ran the penal colonies are dead. The actions are irrelevant to how we should play the world forward. I only care about what'll happen in the present and the future. As far as the present and the future are concerned, China is a rogue state, which is dangerous to the whole world. The UK did fall in that catagory in the past, but the people responsible for all that are dead, along with the threat. I don't care about dead threats, I care about living threats, and China is very much a living threat

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

A lot of it stems from recent times, with the US basically abandoning its allies and interests in the rest of world in a number of cases. China is taking advantage of that and it at the very least makes them appear to be a rising power.

This is one of the better takes I've seen recently about tensions with China.

The US is losing ground relative to China, and it's not all about whatever China is doing. It's also very much about what the US is doing, and the US has dropped the ball. We have an incompetent leadership that ignores facts and routinely bungles diplomatic relations with our allies.

Exactly, the further the US retreats into isolation, the more it plays into China’s hands and gives them exactly what they want which is to grow and cement their power over international politics. We really have nobody to blame but ourselves for practically allowing this to happen.

[Ethel mermania]

Tell that to Vietnam and japan

That was 50 years ago

The 9 dash line was 50 years ago?

[Deacarsia]

[Bombadil]

Yes I do. As said earlier, we were the colony, not the coloniser. Also, that was in the past. I don't give a shit what happened in the past. The past was a cruel and horrible place. All those people who ran the penal colonies are dead. The actions are irrelevant to how we should play the world forward. I only care about what'll happen in the present and the future. As far as the present and the future are concerned, China is a rogue state, which is dangerous to the whole world. The UK did fall in that catagory in the past, but the people responsible for all that are dead, along with the threat. I don't care about dead threats, I care about living threats, and China is very much a living threat

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

February is spelled incorrectly in your sig.

[Kowani]

The universe doesn’t give a shit about this planet.

The chinese give a shit, the west doesn’t, we lose

The ccp care about power. That’s all.

INGSOC time-

[Australian rePublic]

Yes I do. As said earlier, we were the colony, not the coloniser. Also, that was in the past. I don't give a shit what happened in the past. The past was a cruel and horrible place. All those people who ran the penal colonies are dead. The actions are irrelevant to how we should play the world forward. I only care about what'll happen in the present and the future. As far as the present and the future are concerned, China is a rogue state, which is dangerous to the whole world. The UK did fall in that catagory in the past, but the people responsible for all that are dead, along with the threat. I don't care about dead threats, I care about living threats, and China is very much a living threat

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

Listen you 50 cent army shill, your own people in Hong Kong protested against your government. They held up a USA flag to gain American attention. It was Chinese protesting, not Americans. Your government is lying to you

[Reznoviya]

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

February is spelled incorrectly in your sig.

Oh. Thanks.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Yes I do. As said earlier, we were the colony, not the coloniser. Also, that was in the past. I don't give a shit what happened in the past. The past was a cruel and horrible place. All those people who ran the penal colonies are dead. The actions are irrelevant to how we should play the world forward. I only care about what'll happen in the present and the future. As far as the present and the future are concerned, China is a rogue state, which is dangerous to the whole world. The UK did fall in that catagory in the past, but the people responsible for all that are dead, along with the threat. I don't care about dead threats, I care about living threats, and China is very much a living threat

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

Holding up US flags is only indicative of those people wanting to hold up US flags and maybe indicate they like the US more than China.

[Australian rePublic]

That was 50 years ago

The 9 dash line was 50 years ago?

Sorry, I thought you were refering to the Vietnam War

[Australian rePublic]

Well I'm just saying. The HK Protests imo don't sound right. Especially when they one time held up U.S. Flags

Holding up US flags is only indicative of those people wanting to hold up US flags and maybe indicate they like the US more than China.

Being under the USA is indeed preferable to being under the CCP

[Ethel mermania]

The 9 dash line was 50 years ago?

Sorry, I thought you were refering to the Vietnam War

No i am referring to the current issues with chinese expansion into the South China Sea and on the continent.

[Reznoviya]

The 9 dash line was 50 years ago?

Sorry, I thought you were refering to the Vietnam War

This is coming from a American himself. We don't automatically let a country suck up to us like that.

[Australian rePublic]

Sorry, I thought you were refering to the Vietnam War

No i am referring to the current issues with chinese expansion into the South China Sea and on the continent.

I see. What about Vietnam and Japan?

[USS Monitor]

I would love to see the Chinese populace rise up and overthrow the CCP, but that doens't seem terribly likely unfortunately. There's nothing the West can do, because as was pointed out earlier, China has nukes and a lot of economic hold.

Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

China is authoritarian, whether you consider that to be "socialist" or not.

But as someone that has spent a decent amount of time in China, I can see why they don't rise up and overthrow the government: because it would make their lives worse. Violent revolutions are devastating, and they have a lot to lose. For the average person, it's not worth it. The media cherry-picks the worst things to talk about, but there are a lot of Chinese people living very normal lives.

There are certain groups or certain areas that have more problems, but for a lot of people, life is OK.

[Reznoviya]

Holding up US flags is only indicative of those people wanting to hold up US flags and maybe indicate they like the US more than China.

Being under the USA is indeed preferable to being under the CCP

Cos Socialism bad? Okay! I'm trying to not let my country repeat history and continue to demonize Socialism.

[USS Monitor]

The 50 cent army is in full force today...

The Anti-Communist Joe Goebbels-Rob Conquest Army is in full force today too!

What are you shitposting about?

[Ethel mermania]

Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

China is authoritarian, whether you consider that to be "socialist" or not.

But as someone that has spent a decent amount of time in China, I can see why they don't rise up and overthrow the government: because it would make their lives worse. Violent revolutions are devastating, and they have a lot to lose. For the average person, it's not worth it. The media cherry-picks the worst things to talk about, but there are a lot of Chinese people living very normal lives.

There are certain groups or certain areas that have more problems, but for a lot of people, life is OK.

The days of the iron rations are past, and the people are grateful. Part of the problem is they have the people trained to be so distrusting and thinking they are continually being dissed by the west, it would be hard for the leadership to pull back from that a position if they wanted too.

[Bombadil]

Waah, the gommiez can't be overthrown! Waah.

Where's the crying towl? Cos all I'm hearing is Anti-Communist rhetoric 24/7 365. One of these days friend, this "Socialism is Authoritarianism hyuck!" Stuff will end.

China is authoritarian, whether you consider that to be "socialist" or not.

But as someone that has spent a decent amount of time in China, I can see why they don't rise up and overthrow the government: because it would make their lives worse. Violent revolutions are devastating, and they have a lot to lose. For the average person, it's not worth it. The media cherry-picks the worst things to talk about, but there are a lot of Chinese people living very normal lives.

There are certain groups or certain areas that have more problems, but for a lot of people, life is OK.

As long as you're the right sort of Chinese you're fine.. ethnically, behaviourally and politically.

[Reznoviya]

The Anti-Communist Joe Goebbels-Rob Conquest Army is in full force today too!

What are you shitposting about?

I'm not. I'm just saying that Anti Communists are normally going to the Famine/Purge/Leap Forward thingy when "Communism" is mentioned

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Being under the USA is indeed preferable to being under the CCP

Cos Socialism bad? Okay! I'm trying to not let my country repeat history and continue to demonize Socialism.

More like totalitarianism bad.

[Reznoviya]

Cos Socialism bad? Okay! I'm trying to not let my country repeat history and continue to demonize Socialism.

More like totalitarianism bad.

Alright then.