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What are your thoughts about cryptids?

None of them are real
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I believe in at least some of them
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I am open-minded to the possibility that some may exist
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Postby Heloin » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:08 am

Kargintina the Third wrote:The only really plausible ones to me are the 40 foot anacondas deep in the Amazons. Everything else seems impossible.

You trying to say that there isn't a giant monster living in Lake Champlain?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:10 am

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The only way something like a Yeti could survive this long, undetected and unslaughtered, is by being at least as intelligent as a human. Does that seem likely to you?


Maybe they are so smart they invented cloaking devices that occasionally malfunction, hence the occasional sighting and photo :D


What about smell? It would take some serious cloaking to cover the smell of all that fur!
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Postby A m e n r i a » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:12 am

The Javanese tiger is not extinct. Say what you want, but the stripy bois keep popping up every now and then, especially if you shoot a deer then cut it in half.
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Postby Aikoriland » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:13 am

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Maybe they are so smart they invented cloaking devices that occasionally malfunction, hence the occasional sighting and photo :D


What about smell? It would take some serious cloaking to cover the smell of all that fur!


They have amazing shampoo and conditioner!
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:54 am

A m e n r i a wrote:The Javanese tiger is not extinct. Say what you want, but the stripy bois keep popping up every now and then, especially if you shoot a deer then cut it in half.


Must be a fearsome kind of deer if it eats tigers!
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:54 am

Aikoriland wrote:
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What about smell? It would take some serious cloaking to cover the smell of all that fur!


They have amazing shampoo and conditioner!


That's their weak point then. We just have to find the Yet shampoo factory and stake it out.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:03 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aikoriland wrote:
They have amazing shampoo and conditioner!


That's their weak point then. We just have to find the Yet shampoo factory and stake it out.
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:The Javanese tiger is not extinct. Say what you want, but the stripy bois keep popping up every now and then, especially if you shoot a deer then cut it in half.


Must be a fearsome kind of deer if it eats tigers!


That's..not what I meant. Anyone who has gone hunting in Indonesia knows killing a deer and cutting it in half on-site is a good way to attract a tiger.
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Postby Arkeyana » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:06 am

Well, I myself am of the opinion that a large number of cryptids either do not exist or are misidentified animals. However, the ones I consider most likely to exist are those 40ft snakes and perhaps some crityers that never fully went extinct.
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Postby SuSouth Socialist Union » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:23 am

I firmly believe that there are still Melville whales and megatoothed sharks somewhere in the ocean.And non avian dinosaurs
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:30 am

I consider giant birds, lost dinosaurs and stuff like Bigfoot to be the least likely to be real due to the very visible nature of such creatures, and in the case of 'lost dinosaurs' the fact that single specimens of creatures don't survive on their own. You need a breeding population and a breeding population of dinosaurs would be pretty darn noticeable.

I'd consider things which are smaller, inhabit places not frequented by humans or live in the deep sea or underground to be more likely.

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Postby Aikoriland » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:34 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aikoriland wrote:
They have amazing shampoo and conditioner!


That's their weak point then. We just have to find the Yet shampoo factory and stake it out.


But they have cleverly disguised it as a Walmart where their kind look hardly any different from the usual people that go there :p
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Postby SuSouth Socialist Union » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:39 am

Arkeyana wrote:Well, I myself am of the opinion that a large number of cryptids either do not exist or are misidentified animals. However, the ones I consider most likely to exist are those 40ft snakes and perhaps some crityers that never fully went extinct.
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Tianoboacerrejonesis?Its close relatives should grow up to this size.Eunectes murinus is very close.The largest is 27ft
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Postby SuSouth Socialist Union » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:51 am

Albrenia wrote:I consider giant birds, lost dinosaurs and stuff like Bigfoot to be the least likely to be real due to the very visible nature of such creatures, and in the case of 'lost dinosaurs' the fact that single specimens of creatures don't survive on their own. You need a breeding population and a breeding population of dinosaurs would be pretty darn noticeable.

I'd consider things which are smaller, inhabit places not frequented by humans or live in the deep sea or underground to be more likely.


Do you know that birds have been identified as a branch of dinosaurs.Now they are all dinosaurs belonging to the Theropoda.
Theropoda->Ornithurae->Neornithes,It already existed in the middle Cretaceous.They are very close to Dromaeosauridae and Tyrannosaurs.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:56 am

SuSouth Socialist Union wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I consider giant birds, lost dinosaurs and stuff like Bigfoot to be the least likely to be real due to the very visible nature of such creatures, and in the case of 'lost dinosaurs' the fact that single specimens of creatures don't survive on their own. You need a breeding population and a breeding population of dinosaurs would be pretty darn noticeable.

I'd consider things which are smaller, inhabit places not frequented by humans or live in the deep sea or underground to be more likely.


Do you know that birds have been identified as a branch of dinosaurs.Now they are all dinosaurs belonging to the Theropoda.
Theropoda->Ornithurae->Neornithes,It already existed in the middle Cretaceous.They are very close to Dromaeosauridae and Tyrannosaurs.


Yes, but nobody calls a chicken a dinosaur even if they are related. The 'lost dinosaurs' are generally more... dinosaur-ish.

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Postby SuSouth Socialist Union » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:02 am

Albrenia wrote:
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Do you know that birds have been identified as a branch of dinosaurs.Now they are all dinosaurs belonging to the Theropoda.
Theropoda->Ornithurae->Neornithes,It already existed in the middle Cretaceous.They are very close to Dromaeosauridae and Tyrannosaurs.


Yes, but nobody calls a chicken a dinosaur even if they are related. The 'lost dinosaurs' are generally more... dinosaur-ish.

Yes.But small non-bird dinosaurs still have a chance to exist.Although they are like chickens themselves.I hope.
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Postby Kannap » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:15 am

every single one of them are real, otherwise what's the point in living?
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Postby Diahon » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:22 am

Kannap wrote:every single one of them are real, otherwise what's the point in living?


griffins? they exist!
chimeras? moreso!
golems? !בוודאי
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Postby Kannap » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:36 am

Diahon wrote:
Kannap wrote:every single one of them are real, otherwise what's the point in living?


griffins? they exist!
chimeras? moreso!
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that's the spirit!
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Postby Southern-Aves » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:48 am

This thread is right up my ally, I was a huge Cryptozoologist enthusiast when I was younger.
My favourites are Mothman, Flatwoods Monster and the Fresno-nightcrawlers... the latter I don't think are really a thing but they look cool, like walking pants!
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:50 am

Southern-Aves wrote:This thread is right up my ally, I was a huge Cryptozoologist enthusiast when I was younger.
My favourites are Mothman, Flatwoods Monster and the Fresno-nightcrawlers... the latter I don't think are really a thing but they look cool, like walking pants!


I must admit a fondness for those pants-monsters too. Some of my favourite cryptid footage of those guys.

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Postby Kannap » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:54 am

This thread is making me wanna rewatch some of the Buzzfeed Unsolved episodes on cryptids
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Postby Southern-Aves » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:56 am

Albrenia wrote:
Southern-Aves wrote:This thread is right up my ally, I was a huge Cryptozoologist enthusiast when I was younger.
My favourites are Mothman, Flatwoods Monster and the Fresno-nightcrawlers... the latter I don't think are really a thing but they look cool, like walking pants!


I must admit a fondness for those pants-monsters too. Some of my favourite cryptid footage of those guys.


The footage is so funny with the way they walk; there's nothing malicious about them, they're just vibing.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:00 am

If they do exist ,chances are with everything going on, we are far more likely to discover them if they happen to wander into settlements.
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Postby Lost Memories » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:51 am

Albrenia wrote:A good idea for a thread, imho.

I'm of the general opinion that the majority of them are not real. However, that's not to say we know about all of the species which inhabit our world, so who knows, a few of them (or similar creatures, at least) may well exist.

A population of 8-foot tall apes living in the US countryside is almost certainly false, but a strange creature living in the dark depths of the ocean that we don't know about is far more likely.

The problem is that most of the more popular cryptid are located relatively close to human activity.

So there is a contradiction:
-they are unknown because hidden somewhere, presumably where humans don't usually pass by, or don't usually investigate
-they are close enough to be spotted relatively often

If they are spotted relatively often, it means they are also based relatively close to humans, and if they are based close to humans then they can't come from somewhere hidden and never trespassed by humans.
Likewise, if they did come from somewhere rarely trespassed by humans, then the reports of them being spotted should be way more rare, to the point of not even making news.
So one condition invalidates the other.


Though i agree too to remain open-minded, if not just to investigate them further, but the premise is very skewed toward unlikeliness.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:54 am

Lost Memories wrote:
Albrenia wrote:A good idea for a thread, imho.

I'm of the general opinion that the majority of them are not real. However, that's not to say we know about all of the species which inhabit our world, so who knows, a few of them (or similar creatures, at least) may well exist.

A population of 8-foot tall apes living in the US countryside is almost certainly false, but a strange creature living in the dark depths of the ocean that we don't know about is far more likely.

The problem is that most of the more popular cryptid are located relatively close to human activity.

So there is a contradiction:
-they are unknown because hidden somewhere, presumably where humans don't usually pass by, or don't usually investigate
-they are close enough to be spotted relatively often

If they are spotted relatively often, it means they are also based relatively close to humans, and if they are based close to humans then they can't come from somewhere hidden and never trespassed by humans.
Likewise, if they did come from somewhere rarely trespassed by humans, then the reports of them being spotted should be way more rare, to the point of not even making news.
So one condition invalidates the other.


Though i agree too to remain open-minded, if not just to investigate them further, but the premise is very skewed toward unlikeliness.


Very true, and well put.

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