The Kims: East Asian Lucretia & Cesare?

[Luziyca]

I’m waiting until pink lady says it

You mean "blabbering it out with crocodile tears"?

Of course. Or at least one of the news staff.

So far though, KCTV is still broadcasting what appears to me to be their regular programming, so I'm not too concerned.

[Andsed]

Also the fact that both the US and China have interests in NK and conflict between the two is the last thing we need right now.

We'd kick their fucking asses and they know it.

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes. She looks like she could gut you savagely, turn around smiling, lick the blade and sit down to look at her agenda for the day without breaking a sweat or being bothered.

My kinda gal

I better TG my response.

[Ethel mermania]

My kinda gal

I better TG my response.

[Diahon]

We'd kick their fucking asses and they know it.

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

[Samudera Darussalam]

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

Millions streaming past, some blown by whatever it is on the borders
*shivers*

The collapse of DMZ may not be as beautiful as the fall of Berlin wall.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

We'd kick their fucking asses and they know it.

I don't think we would. China has a larger army, a slightly smaller navy, the DPRK has the largest army in the world, and China has the whole protecting their homeland ideology.

Their air force is a joke; instant air superiority.
Their navy is a joke; instant naval superiority.

Their equipment is old, antiquated, and outdated. The only advantage they have is pure numbers, which means nothing more than they can send men into the meat grinder. We still have more bullets, bombs, missiles, and grenades than they have bodies in their entire country. The sheer firepower of the U.S. military simply cannot be matched. It's not even a contest. Straight-up fight is a U.S. victory. They could probably mount a fairly effective insurgency, but we've been fighting insurgents for the past 60 years and have learned quite a bit about how to handle it. Considering how they treat their own people I expect them to get less sympathy than, say, the Viet Cong or Taliban did.

Nukes off the table, we win hands down. With current technology we might not even have to invade at all. The PLA might be intimidating to China's neighbors - save for Russia - but the U.S. Armed Forces are on a whole other level China simply cannot match. They know this, too. Which is why they prefer economic warfare and espionage when trying to combat our influence around the globe. The fact we're the best customer also means if they get into a scuffle with us, they're the ones who get hurt the most. Especially since the USA still pulls more strings in global politics than the PRC does.

Beijing might not want an American ally on it's borders, but they won't try to fight us over it. Not directly. That's not their style. They'd look for another, safer way to undermine our goals. Dictators don't like gambling with their absolute power and are often complete cowards as a result, less likely to behave militantly.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

We'd kick their fucking asses and they know it.

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

Another reason they wouldn't want to fight us over North Korea.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

You really think China would allow a refugee crisis to happen on it's own borders? They'd tell the guards to shoot on sight and it'd be a bloodbath. Crisis averted through genocidal border massacre - the ChiCom way of solving problems. Mao would be proud.

[The New California Republic]

Even if that is the case were in the middle of a global pandemic. A large war would have disastrous consequences.

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

To be honest I think that the humanitarian crisis stemming from regime collapse is the biggest concern of its Asian neighbours, as this is a population who have spent the last 70 years more or less cut off from the outside world, thinking that their leaders are infallible gods. The culture shock alone, stemming from their entire belief system suddenly being pulled away from under them, will likely result in large numbers of people being unable to cope and committing suicide.

[Greed and Death]

Yes

Yes. She looks like she could gut you savagely, turn around smiling, lick the blade and sit down to look at her agenda for the day without breaking a sweat or being bothered.

Thats like every other GF I have had.

In retrospect that is really fucking depressing.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes. She looks like she could gut you savagely, turn around smiling, lick the blade and sit down to look at her agenda for the day without breaking a sweat or being bothered.

Thats like every other GF I have had.

In retrospect that is really fucking depressing.

You need to make better choices.

[Andsed]

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

Millions streaming past, some blown by whatever it is on the borders
*shivers*

The collapse of DMZ may not be as beautiful as the fall of Berlin wall.

Yep. A collapse of the North Korean regime, regardless if foreign powers get involved, would surely cause chaos and massive amounts of refugees. And shit tons of refugees would be at risk to catching Corona and spreading it further. It would not be a pretty situation.

[Greed and Death]

There are reasons you will never have the power to have your enemies executed by anti aircraft guns in a stadium full of onlookers.

no

why would anyone want that

Why would anyone not want that. Finally I can deal with those who disagree violently.

[Greed and Death]

Thats like every other GF I have had.

In retrospect that is really fucking depressing.

You need to make better choices.

But the sane ones are boring.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Millions streaming past, some blown by whatever it is on the borders
*shivers*

The collapse of DMZ may not be as beautiful as the fall of Berlin wall.

Yep. A collapse of the North Korean regime, regardless if foreign powers get involved, would surely cause chaos and massive amounts of refugees. And shit tons of refugees would be at risk to catching Corona and spreading it further. It would not be a pretty situation.

I do see reports about fear of an internal power struggle there. Civil war is mentioned too. But we need to wait for an official confirmation that Kim Jong-Un is dead. He may not be dead and we’ll see him pop up in several weeks.

[Union of Sovereign States and Republics]

Yep. A collapse of the North Korean regime, regardless if foreign powers get involved, would surely cause chaos and massive amounts of refugees. And shit tons of refugees would be at risk to catching Corona and spreading it further. It would not be a pretty situation.

I do see reports about fear of an internal power struggle there. Civil war is mentioned too. But we need to wait for an official confirmation that Kim Jong-Un is dead. He may not be dead and we’ll see him pop up in several weeks.

In that regard, he may also be dead and we won't know for years.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

you think the syria refugee crisis was bad? wait till you see the korean refugee crisis -- except unlike in 2017, way worse

To be honest I think that the humanitarian crisis stemming from regime collapse is the biggest concern of its Asian neighbours, as this is a population who have spent the last 70 years more or less cut off from the outside world, thinking that their leaders are infallible gods. The culture shock alone, stemming from their entire belief system suddenly being pulled away from under them, will likely result in large numbers of people being unable to cope and committing suicide.

That's a bit of a pessimistic take.

I'm fairly certain most North Koreans aren't brain dead idiots that truly believe their leaders are gods. More likely than not they accept their leaders are extremely powerful and cannot be overthrown so they're too afraid to try. Same problem in China. That's how dystopias work; nobody really believes the propaganda, they're just too afraid to challenge it. The Black Market is big in North Korea. They smuggle in Western media all the time. People escape all the time, risking everything in the process.

It might be overwhelming for some, but only when they find out how much better life outside North Korea is than inside it. Committing suicide because you're not starving to death anymore? Sorry, that just sounds absurd.

[Ethel mermania]

You need to make better choices.

But the sane ones are boring.

Preach it brother

[Atheris]

In North Korea, heart surgeon. Number one. Steady hand. One day, Supreme Leader need new heart. I do operation. But, mistake! Supreme Leader die! DPRK very mad. I hide in fishing boat, come to America. No english, no food, no money. Darryl give me job. Now I have house, American car, and new woman. Darryl save life. My big secret: I kill Supreme Leader on purpose. I good surgeon. The best!

On a sidenote, I'm switching to this account for future discussion of the topic because it feels weird talking about Un dying as the USSR.

That being said, I'm not gonna discredit him being dead until I see him alive. I'm also not going to discredit him being alive until I see a coffin. I hope the bastard's dead, and I hope North Korea doesn't go up in flames.

[Northern Davincia]

Yes. She looks like she could gut you savagely, turn around smiling, lick the blade and sit down to look at her agenda for the day without breaking a sweat or being bothered.

Thats like every other GF I have had.

In retrospect that is really fucking depressing.

Can I trade with you?

[Andsed]

Yep. A collapse of the North Korean regime, regardless if foreign powers get involved, would surely cause chaos and massive amounts of refugees. And shit tons of refugees would be at risk to catching Corona and spreading it further. It would not be a pretty situation.

I do see reports about fear of an internal power struggle there. Civil war is mentioned too. But we need to wait for an official confirmation that Kim Jong-Un is dead. He may not be dead and we’ll see him pop up in several weeks.

I do hope he is still alive. Not for his sake he is a fucking twat but for the fact that a collapse of the North Korean government would not be a good thing right now.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I do see reports about fear of an internal power struggle there. Civil war is mentioned too. But we need to wait for an official confirmation that Kim Jong-Un is dead. He may not be dead and we’ll see him pop up in several weeks.

I do hope he is still alive. Not for his sake he is a fucking twat but for the fact that a collapse of the North Korean government would not be a good thing right now.

If you're a pessimist, sure.

[Atheris]

I do see reports about fear of an internal power struggle there. Civil war is mentioned too. But we need to wait for an official confirmation that Kim Jong-Un is dead. He may not be dead and we’ll see him pop up in several weeks.

I do hope he is still alive. Not for his sake he is a fucking twat but for the fact that a collapse of the North Korean government would not be a good thing right now.

I mean, in all honesty, he's better than Kim Il-Sung.

I do hope he is still alive. Not for his sake he is a fucking twat but for the fact that a collapse of the North Korean government would not be a good thing right now.

If you're a pessimist, sure.

I think giving a nuclear and chemically-armed nation the possibility to use said WMD's against their own populace in a civil war, no matter how unprobable, is pretty bad.

[Andsed]

I do hope he is still alive. Not for his sake he is a fucking twat but for the fact that a collapse of the North Korean government would not be a good thing right now.

If you're a pessimist, sure.

More like a realist.