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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:13 pm

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"Alright then kids, turn to Chapters 6 through 12, all of which cover 2020."


There'll be an entire book - 2016-2020 - the collective madness and destruction of humanity

You’d have to be completely out of perspective to think any of this signals the destruction of humanity
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:13 pm

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San Lumen wrote:It will be interesting if it really happens in North Korea though reports from South Korea are saying nothing is out of the ordinary and reports of grave danger are false.

My dreams of seeing a female dictator likely won't happen sadly /sarcasm

I’ve already seen twitter posts saying her ascension would be a “feminist victory”. Stupidity has no ends it seems.

:blink: Would that not be a major feminist victory?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:13 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It will be interesting if it really happens in North Korea though reports from South Korea are saying nothing is out of the ordinary and reports of grave danger are false.

My dreams of seeing a female dictator likely won't happen sadly /sarcasm

I’ve already seen twitter posts saying her ascension would be a “feminist victory”. Stupidity has no ends it seems.

seriously?

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:13 pm

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San Lumen wrote:It will be interesting if it really happens in North Korea though reports from South Korea are saying nothing is out of the ordinary and reports of grave danger are false.

My dreams of seeing a female dictator likely won't happen sadly /sarcasm

I’ve already seen twitter posts saying her ascension would be a “feminist victory”. Stupidity has no ends it seems.

they're probably trolls/joking tbh
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:14 pm

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It will be interesting if it really happens in North Korea though reports from South Korea are saying nothing is out of the ordinary and reports of grave danger are false.

My dreams of seeing a female dictator likely won't happen sadly /sarcasm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:15 pm

As a fairly avid North Korea watcher I'll echo some sentiments here and say you should take everything regarding North Korea with a massive grain of salt, no matter how many "anonymous officials" say it to news agencies. A huge amount of things said by such people have been later proven to be false.

My favorite examples are the stories of someone being executed in a bizarre and extreme fashion only to later show up in a photograph or video background later down the line.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
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There'll be an entire book - 2016-2020 - the collective madness and destruction of humanity

You’d have to be completely out of perspective to think any of this signals the destruction of humanity


While unlikely there's enough stress points to tip things over given the right, or wrong I guess, nudge. The massive economic impact will have ramifications, perhaps not end of humanity ramifications certainly, but then there's a high potential for great change.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:16 pm

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San Lumen wrote:It will be interesting if it really happens in North Korea though reports from South Korea are saying nothing is out of the ordinary and reports of grave danger are false.

My dreams of seeing a female dictator likely won't happen sadly /sarcasm

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Nobody here wants to see a female "President" mate, we wanna see a female "SUPREME DICTATOR FOR LIFE."
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:16 pm

How does Kim Jong Un have problems at such a relatively young age? Does he have a ton of body fat or have poor nutrition/lifestyle? I don't work out religiously and live the lazy and comfortable life. And even I haven't deteriorated much. Its usually sufficient to eat well in picking the right foods, maybe fast for long enough each day, get your sleep, and not drink alcohol or take bad risks.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:17 pm

Saiwania wrote:How does Kim Jong Un have problems at such a relatively young age? Does he have a ton of body fat or have poor nutrition/lifestyle? I don't work out religiously and live the lazy and comfortable life. And even I haven't deteriorated much. Its usually sufficient to eat well in picking the right foods, maybe fast for long enough each day, get your sleep, and not drink alcohol or take bad risks.


Do you live in an isolated country where everyone probably wants to kill you? I imagine the job comes with a modicum of stress.
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:17 pm

Saiwania wrote:How does Kim Jong Un have problems at such a relatively young age? Does he have a ton of body fat or have poor nutrition/lifestyle? I don't work out religiously and live the lazy and comfortable life. And even I haven't deteriorated much. Its usually sufficient to eat well in picking the right foods, maybe fast for long enough each day, get your sleep, and not drink alcohol or take bad risks.

Combination of obesity, heavy smoking and stress.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:18 pm

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Outer Bratorke wrote:If Kim kicks the bucket, and it become a tug-of-war for power, it will be an absolute kerfuffle. I bet future historians are going to put 2020 in its own chapter in the history books.


"Alright then kids, turn to Chapters 6 through 12, all of which cover 2020."

Seriously though, everyone’s blowing things out of proportion, the only thing that will make history textbooks from this year is probably coronavirus and the US election, and maybe a war between Egypt and Ethiopia. Not WW2 or the end of humanity or whatever edgy teens are saying
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:As a fairly avid North Korea watcher I'll echo some sentiments here and say you should take everything regarding North Korea with a massive grain of salt, no matter how many "anonymous officials" say it to news agencies. A huge amount of things said by such people have been later proven to be false.

My favorite examples are the stories of someone being executed in a bizarre and extreme fashion only to later show up in a photograph or video background later down the line.

what's your take on this? is South Korea right and he's fine?

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:20 pm

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Oh man.

Now I don't want Kim Jong Un to pass away, much like the rest of us do, but...
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:20 pm

People on this thread do realize how incredibly difficult it is to get accurate intelligence from North Korea? I doubt anything out of the ordinary is going on, South Korea says he’s fine
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:As a fairly avid North Korea watcher I'll echo some sentiments here and say you should take everything regarding North Korea with a massive grain of salt, no matter how many "anonymous officials" say it to news agencies. A huge amount of things said by such people have been later proven to be false.

My favorite examples are the stories of someone being executed in a bizarre and extreme fashion only to later show up in a photograph or video background later down the line.

what's your take on this? is South Korea right and he's fine?


I'd fully believe he has some sort of health issues given the things we know about his behavior and his physical health, but I'd be deeply skeptical of claims that he's braindead or whatever.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:21 pm

https://news.yahoo.com/kim-jong-un-surg ... 38686.html

Now Yahoo is saying reports are conflicting. Until we get a formal statement from North Korea who knows at this point?

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:22 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
"Alright then kids, turn to Chapters 6 through 12, all of which cover 2020."

Seriously though, everyone’s blowing things out of proportion, the only thing that will make history textbooks from this year is probably coronavirus and the US election, and maybe a war between Egypt and Ethiopia. Not WW2 or the end of humanity or whatever edgy teens are saying

WW2 is indeed unlikely to make the history books as an event occurring in 2020, seeing as it already happened 80 or so years ago
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:22 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:People on this thread do realize how incredibly difficult it is to get accurate intelligence from North Korea? I doubt anything out of the ordinary is going on, South Korea says he’s fine

How would they know this?

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:22 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:People on this thread do realize how incredibly difficult it is to get accurate intelligence from North Korea? I doubt anything out of the ordinary is going on, South Korea says he’s fine

There were reports a few years ago during the "rocket man" missile scare that he had a heart attack, but those were false, so I have a feeling this is wrong intelligence
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:23 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:People on this thread do realize how incredibly difficult it is to get accurate intelligence from North Korea? I doubt anything out of the ordinary is going on, South Korea says he’s fine

There were reports a few years ago during the "rocket man" missile scare that he had a heart attack, but those were false, so I have a feeling this is wrong intelligence

I say just wait instead of jumping to conclusions.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:24 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:There were reports a few years ago during the "rocket man" missile scare that he had a heart attack, but those were false, so I have a feeling this is wrong intelligence

I say just wait instead of jumping to conclusions.

If only we could so the same for literally every other immediately unfolding event in history.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:24 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:There were reports a few years ago during the "rocket man" missile scare that he had a heart attack, but those were false, so I have a feeling this is wrong intelligence

I say just wait instead of jumping to conclusions.

True but if South Korea is saying he's fine im inclined to believe them

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:25 pm

Major-Tom wrote:He is obese, but still relatively young. That and he would have access to decent healthcare, even if few people in his country do. Unless he suffered a stroke or a cardiac event as this young of an age (which, not super likely), I can't speculate as to what it might be that potentially incapacitated him like this. Doubt it's COVID, seeing as few people travel into N.K, I do believe that there are very few cases in that country.

Either way, if he kicks it (which doesn't seem super likely), the lack of a viable successor could cause more problems than one might think (as the OP did mention), but simultaneously, Jong-Un is a piece of dirt, yada yada, won't beat a dead horse, so I don't think many would shed a tear about his demise, but the repercussions could harm the North Korean people even more.

Actually due to his obesity I would say that a heart attack is very likely. Those who are obese are at risk for high blood pressure and high cholesterol bother of which raise the risk of a heart attack significantly
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:28 pm

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Valrifell wrote:From what I know, it's widely speculated that Kim Yo-jong, Kim's sister, would be the one to succeed him. This is primarily due to the fact that she's increasing her roles right now and previously did so during his last health scare.

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Kim Yo-jong is now North Korea's most powerful woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -alter-ego
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/ ... 30626.html

if she was to succeed him would she be the world's first female dictator?

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