23 Dead in Canada's worst mass shooting

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

A mass shooting in Canada? In Nova Scotia of all places? WTF? Canada? Gods.

My condolences to those affected.

[Albrenia]

Pls Explain.

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though

Dude, you did not just go there, did you?

I think they just went there.

[Fartsniffage]

Pls Explain.

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.

So it's all the fault of the niggers?

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though

Dude, you did not just go there, did you?

I think they just went there.

idk man, there's this group of people in America who are like 50-60% of the population, and their gun homicide rate is actually pretty close to that of European countries.

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.

So it's all the fault of the niggers?

In the sense that they are the ones physically committing violent crime, yes. Is it their fault they're predisposed to it given their conditions? It'd be hard to argue that. They don't have many homies up in Canada doing the same thing though, and if they weren't in the USA its crime rates would look a lot like Canada's. So guns aren't to blame, the conditions of America's minorities are.

[Purple Rats]

Mass shooters in USA are still mostly white, or have I misunderstood something?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

Meanwhile, how if at all would having unregulated guns have been beneficial? The usual answer is the idea of a "good guy with a gun" but untrained civilians carrying taking matters into their own hands could've made matters much, much worse. In Canada we leave policework to the police.

Canada has around 1/10 the population of the United States. If your murders were equal something would be very, very wrong.

I meant per capita as well.

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

Mass shooters in USA are still mostly white, or have I misunderstood something?

Mass shootings in which tards go on a rampage for attention are a very small portion of total homicides. It's like Islamic terrorism - you're more likely to be killed by a coconut, an angry cow or a large falling window pane than a member of ISIS or Al-Qaeda in a Western country. It's like saying Marc Lepine is representative of Canada's crime situation in the late 1980s. Most Americans killed by homicide die without a vigil in a shoddy shooting nobody hears about, often at the hands of someone they know, in the shitty suburb of a major metropolitan area.

[Fartsniffage]

So it's all the fault of the niggers?

In the sense that they are the ones physically committing violent crime, yes. Is it their fault they're predisposed to it given their conditions? It'd be hard to argue that. They don't have many homies up in Canada doing the same thing though, and if they weren't in the USA its crime rates would look a lot like Canada's. So guns aren't to blame, the conditions of America's minorities are.

Jesus...

[Telconi]

In the sense that they are the ones physically committing violent crime, yes. Is it their fault they're predisposed to it given their conditions? It'd be hard to argue that. They don't have many homies up in Canada doing the same thing though, and if they weren't in the USA its crime rates would look a lot like Canada's. So guns aren't to blame, the conditions of America's minorities are.

Jesus...

While he may have ham-fisted the delivery, he has a valid point. Mistreated minorities are a massive driver of crime, especially violent crime.

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

In the sense that they are the ones physically committing violent crime, yes. Is it their fault they're predisposed to it given their conditions? It'd be hard to argue that. They don't have many homies up in Canada doing the same thing though, and if they weren't in the USA its crime rates would look a lot like Canada's. So guns aren't to blame, the conditions of America's minorities are.

Jesus...

Do keep in mind, gun homicides went down when we took lead out of petrol as well. A significant portion of people in prisons show signs of foetal alcohol syndrome to some degree. Saying people are committing homicides with guns isn't saying they're assholes, it's just stating what's happening. Violent criminals aren't a scary monster that hides under your bed and comes out to pop a cap in your ass while you're sleeping, they're human beings with often complicated life situations featuring numerous factors that contribute to them offending.

To keep it on topic, think about the shooter that just killed people in Canada. There's obviously something going on there, a formative experience of his maybe, that made it so he was going to go out of his way to kill people dressed as a cop. People don't just do something like that

[Rojava Free State]

Pls Explain.

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.

When you control for poverty, that 13% isn't more likely to commit crime. And what do you mean outside that 13% the crime rate is reasonable? As a latino, I gotta say we have a horrible crime problem in the community. 50% of American gang members are hispanics. Everyday young Latin men are shot and killed, so this is most definitely not just a black issue. It's also a latino issue and a southeast Asian issue and a native American issue and an Appalachian issue too.

Canada has less poverty than America. There are equally white nations out there that are just as dangerous as the American ghetto.

[Purple Rats]

Canada has less poverty than America. There are equally white nations out there that are just as dangerous as the American ghetto.

So it's capitalism and bad welfare.

[Imperium Romanum Sanctis]

I'm from Nova Scotia, and I feel as though a few things should be mentioned:

It's generally considered disrespectful to turn a tragedy into a political argument, be it pro or anti gun control.

Contrary to what many people believe, gun laws in Canada are not particularly restrictive. The only things we outright ban are:
-Pistols/handguns
-Suppressors
-Explosive, incendiary and high-powered rounds (specifically anything powerful enough to penetrate body armour)
-Any magazines that can carry more than 5 rounds
-A few other specific types of firearms/ammunition & accessories, but the above are the main restrictions

So long as you have a firearms license and don't have a criminal record, you're free to do pretty much whatever; we don't even require most legal firearms to be registered anymore.

[Rojava Free State]

Canada has less poverty than America. There are equally white nations out there that are just as dangerous as the American ghetto.

So it's capitalism and bad welfare.

Yeah, and not being black.

[Fartsniffage]

So it's capitalism and bad welfare.

Yeah, and not being black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f8wAXDZ9D0

[Albrenia]

An average-joe denturist who owns multiple properties isn't what I'd expect as a background of a killer.

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.

When you control for poverty, that 13% isn't more likely to commit crime. And what do you mean outside that 13% the crime rate is reasonable? As a latino, I gotta say we have a horrible crime problem in the community. 50% of American gang members are hispanics. Everyday young Latin men are shot and killed, so this is most definitely not just a black issue. It's also a latino issue and a southeast Asian issue and a native American issue and an Appalachian issue too.

Canada has less poverty than America. There are equally white nations out there that are just as dangerous as the American ghetto.

This just isn't true. West Virginia doesn't have the homicide rate the south side of Chicago does. Same with Hispanics and gangs. It's a racial thing, it goes deeper than just poverty although poverty is a part of it. Different cultures have different conditions and react to those conditions differently.

[Purple Rats]

This just isn't true. West Virginia doesn't have the homicide rate the south side of Chicago does. Same with Hispanics and gangs. It's a racial thing, it goes deeper than just poverty although poverty is a part of it. Different cultures have different conditions and react to those conditions differently.

What tha fuck are you talking about, we don't even have black people in our country (I mean, we do, but really few) and we still have crime, because people are poor and pissed off.

[Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania]

This just isn't true. West Virginia doesn't have the homicide rate the south side of Chicago does. Same with Hispanics and gangs. It's a racial thing, it goes deeper than just poverty although poverty is a part of it. Different cultures have different conditions and react to those conditions differently.

What tha fuck are you talking about, we don't even have black people in our country (I mean, we do, but really few) and we still have crime, because people are poor and pissed off.

Okay, but look at the amount of crime, namely the rate. If I punch you in the face it's assault and we have crime, but how much is it? The amount matters.

[Purple Rats]

What tha fuck are you talking about, we don't even have black people in our country (I mean, we do, but really few) and we still have crime, because people are poor and pissed off.

Okay, but look at the amount of crime, namely the rate. If I punch you in the face it's assault and we have crime, but how much is it? The amount matters.

I checked the murder rate, for example. It's 3.19, per 100,000 people.
It's less than USA (5.3, per 100,000 people), but more than Canada (1.76 per 100,000) people, and I think Canada has bigger racial diversity than we do.

[Sylh Alanor]

I'm from Nova Scotia, and I feel as though a few things should be mentioned:

It's generally considered disrespectful to turn a tragedy into a political argument, be it pro or anti gun control..

Love from BC in this sad time

I'm actually disgusted by how quickly and thoroughly this thread got hijacked by Americans arguing politics. This is an incredibly sad news story and not the time or place for waving opinions on gun laws around.

[Bear Stearns]

Gun control at work

We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

America's higher murder rate is directly correlated with its demographics.

13 does equal 50 after all.

[Bear Stearns]

This just isn't true. West Virginia doesn't have the homicide rate the south side of Chicago does. Same with Hispanics and gangs. It's a racial thing, it goes deeper than just poverty although poverty is a part of it. Different cultures have different conditions and react to those conditions differently.

What tha fuck are you talking about, we don't even have black people in our country (I mean, we do, but really few) and we still have crime, because people are poor and pissed off.

There isn't really an equivalent of Baltimore or Detroit in Canada. You guys have South Asian and native gangs to be sure, but their neighborhoods are comparable to poor Hispanic neighborhoods in the US.

[Bear Stearns]

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.

When you control for poverty, that 13% isn't more likely to commit crime.

Yeah they are. Middle class blacks commit more crime than poor whites.