23 Dead in Canada's worst mass shooting

[Cisairse]

Did not expect to see fascist dogwhistles when I opened this thread.

[Albrenia]

Did not expect to see fascist dogwhistles when I opened this thread.

Sadly this thread has had almost nothing to do with the event which it is about, since some people just want to keep coming back to 'lol gun control sux' or 'black people are bad' despite neither having anything to do with it.

[Cisairse]

Did not expect to see fascist dogwhistles when I opened this thread.

Sadly this thread has had almost nothing to do with the event which it is about, since some people just want to keep coming back to 'lol gun control sux' or 'black people are bad' despite neither having anything to do with it.

Isn't there a thread for that?

[Bromagia]

So what, if anything, should Canada do in response? I say notging because legislating for incredibly infrequent events which are already illegal is stupid and a misapplication of law.

And I will add that it's a shame Canada doesn't have the death penalty.

[Purple Rats]

Sadly this thread has had almost nothing to do with the event which it is about, since some people just want to keep coming back to 'lol gun control sux' or 'black people are bad' despite neither having anything to do with it.

Isn't there a thread for that?

There is two threads about guns: general talk, and gun control. I think it's really weird turn here, as it seems like people are telling like "ha-ha, you deserve that".

[Albrenia]

And I will add that it's a shame Canada doesn't have the death penalty.

I believe the scum who did the shooting died as well, so in a way, they did have the death penalty for this crime.

[Bromagia]

Isn't there a thread for that?

There is two threads about guns: general talk, and gun control. I think it's really weird turn here, as it seems like people are telling like "ha-ha, you deserve that".

And to demonstrate your disdain...you're giving attention to such instead of just focusing on the topic? An interesting strategy, to be sure.

[Bromagia]

And I will add that it's a shame Canada doesn't have the death penalty.

I believe the scum who did the shooting died as well, so in a way, they did have the death penalty for this crime.

I hope that's true.

[Gig em Aggies]

I believe the scum who did the shooting died as well, so in a way, they did have the death penalty for this crime.

I hope that's true.

well it is true he did die as stated here on msn

Police said on Sunday they had ended the threat posed by the shooter, who was dead, but they would not confirm a report by the CTV network that the RCMP had shot him.

[Saiwania]

My conjecture is that the media isn't telling which firearms this shooter used because it doesn't fit the narrative that'd make the need for more gun control more pressing in Canada, such as if it were the case that he did use a tactical type of semi-auto rifle like the AR-15 in this series of incidents. That, or no one but the RCMP knows and the RCMP isn't telling anyone anything.

[Cisairse]

My conjecture is that the media isn't telling which firearms this shooter used because it doesn't fit the narrative that'd make the need for more gun control more pressing in Canada, such as if it were the case that he did use a tactical type of semi-auto rifle like the AR-15 in this series of incidents. That, or no one but the RCMP knows and the RCMP isn't telling anyone anything.

The latter is much more likely, unless one legitimately believes in a broad conspiracy between every single media outlet and the government.

[Bear Stearns]

I can't say I'm familiar with this one. For whom is it a dogwhistle?

The whole 13% (black people) commit 50% of the crime thing. It's a dogwhistle for racists and white supremacists.

It's just homicide. Total crime is a different story.

[Bear Stearns]

One day, you might ask yourself, "How did we get to the point where we started labeling the correct citation of government crime statistics as a dogwhistle for racists and white supremacists?" and it will dawn on you, suddenly, that responding to facts with name-calling only entrenches the opposition and drives the audience to support the argument made by the only person who made an argument.

Then again, you might never ever ever ask yourself this question.

Yeah, people who rattle off 1350 all the time can't possibly be doing so for racist reasons. Nope, not ever.

Acting like it does't exist doesn't help anyone.

[Bear Stearns]

So what do non-whites have to do with a mass shooting committed by a white man unless we're going to say non-whites provoked the shooting?

In these types of threads, it common for people to say that mass shootings are a white people issue - but the numbers just don't back that up. Mass shootings by white people just make the news more. Nobody cares when block parties in the hood are shot up.

[The Republic of Fore]

Gun control at work

We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

Meanwhile, how if at all would having unregulated guns have been beneficial? The usual answer is the idea of a "good guy with a gun" but untrained civilians carrying taking matters into their own hands could've made matters much, much worse. In Canada we leave policework to the police.

Fun fact. The two US states with the least restrictive gun laws have a lower murder rate than most Canadian provinces.

[Saiwania]

The latter is much more likely, unless one legitimately believes in a broad conspiracy between every single media outlet and the government.

I'd be willing to believe in a conspiracy in this case. Canada's parliament wanted gun control even before all of this occurred. If this was in the US, we'd of probably have known which firearms were used a long time ago.

[The Two Jerseys]

The latter is much more likely, unless one legitimately believes in a broad conspiracy between every single media outlet and the government.

I'd be willing to believe in a conspiracy in this case. Canada's parliament wanted gun control even before all of this occurred. If this was in the US, we'd of probably have known which firearms were used a long time ago.

Not necessarily, ATF is still keeping their mouths shut about the Las Vegas shooting weapons...

[Telconi]

Did not expect to see fascist dogwhistles when I opened this thread.

Sadly this thread has had almost nothing to do with the event which it is about, since some people just want to keep coming back to 'lol gun control sux' or 'black people are bad' despite neither having anything to do with it.

To be fair, we're supposed to have some point of discussion in threads, a thread that just says "people got murdered" followed by forty posts echoing "murder is bad" as if in a Gregorian chant doesn't really lend itself to discussion.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd be willing to believe in a conspiracy in this case. Canada's parliament wanted gun control even before all of this occurred. If this was in the US, we'd of probably have known which firearms were used a long time ago.

Not necessarily, ATF is still keeping their mouths shut about the Las Vegas shooting weapons...

Tbf that's not because it was a conspriacy. That's because the guy almost certainly had a bunch of guns the ATF so very desperately wants people to believe aren't out there, ie unregistered MG's.

[Telconi]

Not necessarily, ATF is still keeping their mouths shut about the Las Vegas shooting weapons...

Tbf that's not because it was a conspriacy. That's because the guy almost certainly had a bunch of guns the ATF so very desperately wants people to believe aren't out there, ie unregistered MG's.

A political organization suppresses information which undermines it's politics?

Imagine that...

[Sylh Alanor]

To be fair, we're supposed to have some point of discussion in threads, a thread that just says "people got murdered" followed by forty posts echoing "murder is bad" as if in a Gregorian chant doesn't really lend itself to discussion.

Seems like it isn't a big ask for a thread about a tragedy in Canada to not devolve into Americans arguing over racism and gun laws in the US. We're not the same country, even if we're similar in a lot of ways. Sure, maybe some talking points could have been supplied, but it reasonably could have been about the Liberal's response, maybe some ideas about how this could affect the gun control debate in our country. Hell, maybe it could have touched on Parliament even meeting right now.

Regardless, I feel like a basic moral floor for any thread should be "no fascist/white supremacist dogwhistling". But maybe I'm just out of step.

[Risottia]

Gun control at work

You mean LACK OF gun control at work.

wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_ ... _in_Canada
In April 2012, the requirement to register non-restricted firearms was dropped in every province and territory, except for Quebec, with the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act coming into force.

But please do substitute reality with your "alternate facts".

[Telconi]

Gun control at work

You mean LACK OF gun control at work.

wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_ ... _in_Canada
In April 2012, the requirement to register non-restricted firearms was dropped in every province and territory, except for Quebec, with the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act coming into force.

But please do substitute reality with your "alternate facts".

I'm quite certain Canada has firearms regulations other than registries on non-restricted long guns.

[Australian rePublic]

Do we have a motive?

[Vistulange]

I believe the scum who did the shooting died as well, so in a way, they did have the death penalty for this crime.

I hope that's true.

Well, I'm personally glad Canada does not have the death penalty. I'd hate being the citizen of a country that endorses such barbarity.