NATION

PASSWORD

23 Dead in Canada's worst mass shooting

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Gig em Aggies
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7728
Founded: Aug 15, 2009
Iron Fist Consumerists

23 Dead in Canada's worst mass shooting

Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:21 pm

Links
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ctims.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gu ... li=BBnb7Kz

ENFIELD, Nova Scotia (AP) — Canadian police said at least 10 people were killed after a 51-year-old man went on a shooting rampage across the northern part of the province of Nova Scotia.
The man was identified as Gabriel Wortman. He was arrested by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in a gas station in Enfield, Nova Scotia, northwest of downtown Halifax. Police later announced that he had died.
“In excess of 10 people have been killed,” RCMP Chief Superintendent Chris Leather said. "We believe it to be one person who is responsible for all the killings and that he alone moved across the northern part of the province and committed what appears to be several homicides.”
Brian Sauvé, President of National Police Federation union, said a police officer was among those killed in a shooting and another was injured.
Police have not provided a motive for the attack. By late morning, there were half a dozen police vehicles at the scene. Yellow police tape surrounded the gas pumps, and a large silver-colored SUV was being investigated by police.
The incident started in the small, rural town of Portapique, with police advising residents to lock their homes and stay in their basements.
Several building fires were reported by residents as well, but police didn’t immediately confirm details.
“I never imagined when I went to bed last night that I would wake up to the horrific news that an active shooter was on the loose in Nova Scotia," Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil. “This is one of the most senseless acts of violence in our province’s history.”
He said it was an additional “heavy burden” amid efforts to contain the new coronavirus, and that police will announce further details later.
Police stated earlier Sunday the suspect was driving a car that looked like a police vehicle and wearing a police uniform, but later said he was “believed to be driving a small, silver Chevrolet SUV,” traveling southbound on a highway. They said he is not an RCMP employee or officer.
Cpl. Lisa Croteau, a spokeswoman with the provincial force, said police received a call about “a person with firearms” at around 10:30 p.m. Saturday and the investigation “evolved into an active shooting investigation.”
“My heart goes out to everyone affected in what is a terrible situation,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said.
Christine Mills, a resident of the town, said it had been a frightening night for the small town, with armed officers patrolling the streets. In the morning, helicopters flew overhead searching for the suspect.
“I feel better now to know he’s in custody," Mills said. “It’s nerve-wracking because you don’t know if somebody has lost their mind and is going to beat in your front door.”
Tom Taggart, a lawmaker who represents the Portapique area in the Municipality of Colchester, said the quiet community has been shaken.
“This is just an absolutely wonderful, peaceful quiet community and the idea that this could happen in our community is unbelievable," Taggart said by phone from his home in Bass River, near the lockdown area.
Croteau confirmed a tweet saying there are “multiple victims” but could not provide a number or say whether any people had been killed.
A Gabriel Wortman is listed as a denturist in Dartmouth, according to the Denturist Society of Nova Scotia website. A suspect photo issued by the RCMP matches video footage of a man being interviewed about dentures by CTV Atlantic in 2014.
Mills also said that Wortman was known locally as a denturist who divided his time between a residence in Halifax and a residence in Portapique.
Taggart said he didn’t know Wortman well, but spoke to him a few times when he telephoned about municipal issues.
Taggart described knowing Wortman’s ``lovely big home″ on Portapique Beach Road. He said Wortman owned a few other properties and was believed to divide his time between Portapique and his business in Dartmouth.


Not really what I or the world needs to hear right now but it sad seeing as the story from DM stated the POS Shooter supposedly dressed as a cop to lure people into a false sense of security then murder them in cold blood. lets just hope the families get to at least say goodbye one final time.
Last edited by Gig em Aggies on Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:53 pm, edited 4 times in total.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Senator
 
Posts: 4070
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:25 pm

Fuck, ninja’d
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:29 pm

What are we talking about here?

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:31 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:the POS Shooter supposedly dressed as a cop to lure people into a false sense of security then murder them in cold blood.

Reminds me of Wilhelm Voigt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
I'm kind of surprised nobody has done this before

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Senator
 
Posts: 4070
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:32 pm

Gun control at work
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:38 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work


Do people with guns normally shoot police officers on sight? This guy looks like he laid traps for people and took them by surprise a lot, rather than the usual 'walk into a place and start shooting' sort of deal.

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Senator
 
Posts: 4070
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:40 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work


Do people with guns normally shoot police officers on sight? This guy looks like he laid traps for people and took them by surprise a lot, rather than the usual 'walk into a place and start shooting' sort of deal.

What are you trying to say?
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:41 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work

Yeah I agree

People who say they feel safer with only the police having guns seem to have a lack of experience with the police. I'm not saying you have to grow up in Compton and your mother gets executed by the LAPD for taking your water pistol outside, just getting ticketed by frumpy female police officers with shrill voices and bodies like bags of potatoes, watching them give violent drug addicts that mug people slaps on the wrist because the watchhouses are full, witnessing their passive-aggressive questioning towards completely normal people going for a run in a not-too-terrible neighbourhood even and having them do nothing about your stolen car should be proof enough these people are clowns who get off on controlling others. I think the shooter fit right in before he even got the uniform on, maybe he should have sent them a job application before doing this and the mass shooting could have been either avoided or done legally on behalf of the state.If my boys all got a gat I feel much safer because I know they have my back and don't ultimately exist to keep me from going after politicians, landlords and the taxman while terrorising me into a docile state of submission.

User avatar
The Two Jerseys
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20990
Founded: Jun 07, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:41 pm

Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:the POS Shooter supposedly dressed as a cop to lure people into a false sense of security then murder them in cold blood.

Reminds me of Wilhelm Voigt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
I'm kind of surprised nobody has done this before

I would've gone with Operation Greif.

Given all the recent backlash against the coronavirus lockdowns, I'm wondering if it was just a lure like Aggies said or if the shooter was trying to stage some sort of anti-authoritarian false flag operation.

EDIT: It's also the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, so I'd definitely look into some sort of ulterior motive.
Last edited by The Two Jerseys on Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
Head of State: HM King Louis
Head of Government: The Rt. Hon. James O'Dell MP, Prime Minister
Ambassador to the World Assembly: HE Sir John Ross "J.R." Ewing II, Bt.
Join Excalibur Squadron. We're Commandos who fly Spitfires. Chicks dig Commandos who fly Spitfires.

User avatar
Grinning Dragon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11115
Founded: May 16, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:42 pm

Wouldn't "spree killing" be a more apt description than "mass shooting"?
This act was after all carried out at many different locations.

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:42 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Do people with guns normally shoot police officers on sight? This guy looks like he laid traps for people and took them by surprise a lot, rather than the usual 'walk into a place and start shooting' sort of deal.

What are you trying to say?


That gun control probably has little to do with people not being armed to defend themselves, since this piece of shit looks to have laid traps and used a disguise to deny people the ability to fight back even if armed.

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:43 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work


Do people with guns normally shoot police officers on sight? This guy looks like he laid traps for people and took them by surprise a lot, rather than the usual 'walk into a place and start shooting' sort of deal.

Maybe if people did this tragedy could have been avoided.
That would be terrible, obviously. they risk their lives to protect the public, which is why a significant portion of murders (and almost all arsons!) go unsolved, and the police have a lower mortality rate on the job than truck drivers, fishermen and lumberjacks (next time you buy something from the store, open a can of tuna or use your wooden furniture for study or relaxation make sure to thank those people instead - their job isn't easy!). doesn't stop cops across the country from marching when one of them gets shot in a shithole neighbourhood anyone would have been shot in though. Where I live, the cops closed off the road and marched after a retired one died of cancer. They really do sacrifice so much for the public.
Last edited by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania on Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha
Senator
 
Posts: 4364
Founded: Apr 05, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:44 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work

We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

Meanwhile, how if at all would having unregulated guns have been beneficial? The usual answer is the idea of a "good guy with a gun" but untrained civilians carrying taking matters into their own hands could've made matters much, much worse. In Canada we leave policework to the police.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:46 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

That's not because of guns.

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Wouldn't "spree killing" be a more apt description than "mass shooting"?
This act was after all carried out at many different locations.


Sort of like a hyper-speed serial killer. Some people are truly shit.

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Senator
 
Posts: 4070
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:48 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Gun control at work

We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

Meanwhile, how if at all would having unregulated guns have been beneficial? The usual answer is the idea of a "good guy with a gun" but untrained civilians carrying taking matters into their own hands could've made matters much, much worse. In Canada we leave policework to the police.

Canada has around 1/10 the population of the United States. If your murders were equal something would be very, very wrong.
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:48 pm

Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

That's not because of guns.


Why is it?

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:50 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:We still have fewer murders overall. Just saying.

Meanwhile, how if at all would having unregulated guns have been beneficial? The usual answer is the idea of a "good guy with a gun" but untrained civilians carrying taking matters into their own hands could've made matters much, much worse. In Canada we leave policework to the police.

Canada has around 1/10 the population of the United States. If your murders were equal something would be very, very wrong.


According to a few seconds of Google searching (i.e. I could be wrong) but per capita it seems Canada's murder rate is one third that of the US. A lot of that could have to do with being less densely populated in places, and being too polite to kill each other as much.

The polite one was a joke, don't ban me pls.

User avatar
Greed and Death
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 53383
Founded: Mar 20, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Greed and Death » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:53 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:What are we talking about here?

I think we are all agreeing the Canada needs to adopt American gun laws.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
Barack Obama

User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:54 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:What are we talking about here?

I think we are all agreeing the Canada needs to adopt American gun laws.


:lol:

Yes. That is exactly what we are doing. :p

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:That's not because of guns.


Why is it?

13%

User avatar
Kargintina the Third
Senator
 
Posts: 4070
Founded: Dec 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:57 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:What are we talking about here?

I think we are all agreeing the Canada needs to adopt American gun laws.

Sounds good to me!
Representative Earl Tenson (R-MT-All)

Senate candidate Christina Mudale (R-AL)

Senator Nickolai Dernilski (D-OH)

Houston Mayor Harold Baines (D-TX)

User avatar
Fartsniffage
Post Czar
 
Posts: 42052
Founded: Dec 19, 2005
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:58 pm

Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Why is it?

13%


Pls Explain.

User avatar
Purple Rats
Diplomat
 
Posts: 782
Founded: Mar 20, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Purple Rats » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:59 pm

Gun freedom protectors can say whatever they want, I am still really glad we have heavy gun control in our country. People drink and fight here so much, that I would not even want to imagine how it would be if they would have guns as well..

User avatar
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 135
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:59 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania wrote:13%


Pls Explain.

13% of the US population is responsible for about 50% of all violent crime
there aren't many of those 13%ers in Canada though
If you look at the gun crime rate for various groups outside that 13%, it's actually pretty reasonable. It looks like Europe or maybe a nice Latin American country in some cases. The 13% brings up the numbers a lot.
Last edited by Accelerationist Poland-Lithuania on Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Big Eyed Animation, Bisofeyr, Duvniask, Elejamie, Europa Undivided, Google [Bot], Hrstrovokia, Kreigsreich of Iron, Middle Barael, Nikolaias, Shidei, Shrillland, Statesburg, Tiami, Umeria, Zantalio

Advertisement

Remove ads