The 'Best' & 'Worst' U.S. Presidents In History

[Ethel mermania]

Ah yes. John Kennedy, the man who was a drug addict and an adulterer. What a great example of a catholic. He was a racist too by the way. Boogey republics and all.

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

Tell that to marylin monroe

[Novus America]

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

Tell that to marylin monroe

Well if we assume Marilyn Monroe is what is right...

[Crockerland]

Andrew Jackson was the 1800s version of Trump mixed with Hitler and Ron Paul. Not a good President in general, much less as a person. For a guy who is adored by neo-liberals and white supremacist, Jacko sure loved plunging the country into a deep recession.

It was in the name of shattering the influence if the big bank.

Killing unarmed native american women and children to own the bankers

[Ethel mermania]

It was in the name of shattering the influence if the big bank.

Killing unarmed native american women and children to own the bankers

1. Name me a president who treated the indians well in the antebellum period?

2. If you dont own property, you have jackson to thank for your right to vote.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Ah yes. John Kennedy, the man who was a drug addict and an adulterer. What a great example of a catholic. He was a racist too by the way. Boogey republics and all.

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

What, like gassing children?

[Sundiata]

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

What, like gassing children?

Excuse me?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

What, like gassing children?

Excuse me?

You heard me, fascist.

[Crockerland]

Killing unarmed native american women and children to own the bankers

1. Name me a president who treated the indians well in the antebellum period?

Compared to Jackson, every president treated the Indians well.

But sure, John Quincy Adams
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/indian-policy-fraudulent-and-brutal-says-john-quincy-adams-Rv7toLuKtEKF7j6K6F9PVA
-Opposed the Indian Springs Treaty after it had been signed and wanted to reverse it
-Reversed the unfair treaty with the 1826 Treaty of Washington
-Refused to support Georgia’s aggressive pressure for Indian removal, arguing that removal should be voluntary
-Did his best to beat brutal mass murderer Andrew Jackson in the election and stop him from being president
-Called Indian abuse "among the heinous sins of this nation"

2. If you dont own property, you have jackson to thank for your right to vote.

Since I'm not white that would probably be Ulysses S. Grant, actually.

[Aeritai]

Excuse me?

You heard me, fascist.

Whoa that's a pretty big accusation.

[Rojava Free State]

Ah yes. John Kennedy, the man who was a drug addict and an adulterer. What a great example of a catholic. He was a racist too by the way. Boogey republics and all.

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

John Kennedy was the Hillary Clinton of the early 1960s. He was a racist, a cheater, and all around one of the fakest motherfuckers in the city of Washington DC. He was the classic politician. His vice president was no better. I feel for Jackie, considering that her husband had to go and treat her like second class property, out there giving Marilyn Monroe the Kennedick.

[Rojava Free State]

1. Name me a president who treated the indians well in the antebellum period?

Compared to Jackson, every president treated the Indians well.

But sure, John Quincy Adams
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/indian-policy-fraudulent-and-brutal-says-john-quincy-adams-Rv7toLuKtEKF7j6K6F9PVA
-Opposed the Indian Springs Treaty after it had been signed and wanted to reverse it
-Reversed the unfair treaty with the 1826 Treaty of Washington
-Refused to support Georgia’s aggressive pressure for Indian removal, arguing that removal should be voluntary
-Did his best to beat brutal mass murderer Andrew Jackson in the election and stop him from being president
-Called Indian abuse "among the heinous sins of this nation"

2. If you dont own property, you have jackson to thank for your right to vote.

Since I'm not white that would probably be Ulysses S. Grant, actually.

You're black?

[Rojava Free State]

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

What, like gassing children?

John Kennedy was that guy who would write a book about civil rights while calling African nations boogey republics. If I was the head of an African country, I would have only called him long enough to tell him to kiss my ass.

[Rojava Free State]

Rumors. John F. Kennedy stood for what is right.

Tell that to marylin monroe

And this is why when someone tells me they wanna go back to the 1950s or early 60s, I ask them if they're naive.

Every bad thing that is happening now (racism, drug abuse, suicide, domestic violence, teen pregnancy) happened then, but back then everybody was a fake piece of crap, and pretended that wasn't happening.

Kennedy did the same shit behind his wife's back that trump does, but nowadays trump openly talks about it while Kennedy had to pretend to be a good Irish catholic man (he was Irish but a good catholic man he was not).

[Crockerland]

Compared to Jackson, every president treated the Indians well.

But sure, John Quincy Adams
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/indian-policy-fraudulent-and-brutal-says-john-quincy-adams-Rv7toLuKtEKF7j6K6F9PVA
-Opposed the Indian Springs Treaty after it had been signed and wanted to reverse it
-Reversed the unfair treaty with the 1826 Treaty of Washington
-Refused to support Georgia’s aggressive pressure for Indian removal, arguing that removal should be voluntary
-Did his best to beat brutal mass murderer Andrew Jackson in the election and stop him from being president
-Called Indian abuse "among the heinous sins of this nation"



Since I'm not white that would probably be Ulysses S. Grant, actually.

You're black?

No, I'm mixed race. I credit Ulysses Grant because he passed and supported the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which says "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude," extending voting rights to all Americans regardless of ethnicity... At least on paper.

The tactic after that became to deny people citizenship if they were the "wrong" race, as with the Chinese Exclusion Act and Elk v. Wilkins, or otherwise disenfranchise voters with workarounds like the poll taxes with the grandfather clause, and it wasn't until president Coolidge signed the Indian Citizenship Act and president LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that people truly had the right to vote no matter their race.

But I think if you have to attribute it to one president, the one who signed the 15th Amendment would probably be the best choice.

[Rojava Free State]

You're black?

No, I'm mixed race. I credit Ulysses Grant because he passed and supported the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which says "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude," extending voting rights to all Americans regardless of ethnicity... At least on paper.

The tactic after that became to deny people citizenship if they were the "wrong" race, as with the Chinese Exclusion Act and Elk v. Wilkins, or otherwise disenfranchise voters with workarounds like the poll taxes with the grandfather clause, and it wasn't until president Coolidge signed the Indian Citizenship Act and president LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that people truly had the right to vote no matter their race.

But I think if you have to attribute it to one president, the one who signed the 15th Amendment would probably be the best choice.

Yeah the post civil war amendments gave citizenship to Europeans and Africans, but it wasn't till the 20th century that anyone could become a citizen regardless of national origin.

And man, the rights black Americans were owed as citizens sure weren't respected for another 100 years.

[Ethel mermania]

Tell that to marylin monroe

And this is why when someone tells me they wanna go back to the 1950s or early 60s, I ask them if they're naive.

Every bad thing that is happening now (racism, drug abuse, suicide, domestic violence, teen pregnancy) happened then, but back then everybody was a fake piece of crap, and pretended that wasn't happening.

Kennedy did the same shit behind his wife's back that trump does, but nowadays trump openly talks about it while Kennedy had to pretend to be a good Irish catholic man (he was Irish but a good catholic man he was not).

A lot of good things also started in the 50's the civil rights movement, mass market stores bring luxury goods to the lower middle class, advances in entertainment and medicine, like the polio vaccine.

An interesting book to read about the period and its effects afterwards is called the 50's by David halbastrand


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifties_(book)

[Rojava Free State]

And this is why when someone tells me they wanna go back to the 1950s or early 60s, I ask them if they're naive.

Every bad thing that is happening now (racism, drug abuse, suicide, domestic violence, teen pregnancy) happened then, but back then everybody was a fake piece of crap, and pretended that wasn't happening.

Kennedy did the same shit behind his wife's back that trump does, but nowadays trump openly talks about it while Kennedy had to pretend to be a good Irish catholic man (he was Irish but a good catholic man he was not).

A lot of good things also started in the 50's the civil rights movement, mass market stores bring luxury goods to the lower middle class, advances in entertainment and medicine, like the polio vaccine.

An interesting book to read about the period and its effects afterwards is called the 50's by David halbastrand


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifties_(book)

There's always some good happening in the world even in the bleakest of times. It's just the 50s were too conservative, too hypocritical and too fake for me to have survived in.

In some ways, living during the end times ain't quite so bad.

[Ethel mermania]

1. Name me a president who treated the indians well in the antebellum period?

Compared to Jackson, every president treated the Indians well.

But sure, John Quincy Adams
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/indian-policy-fraudulent-and-brutal-says-john-quincy-adams-Rv7toLuKtEKF7j6K6F9PVA
-Opposed the Indian Springs Treaty after it had been signed and wanted to reverse it
-Reversed the unfair treaty with the 1826 Treaty of Washington
-Refused to support Georgia’s aggressive pressure for Indian removal, arguing that removal should be voluntary
-Did his best to beat brutal mass murderer Andrew Jackson in the election and stop him from being president
-Called Indian abuse "among the heinous sins of this nation"

2. If you dont own property, you have jackson to thank for your right to vote.

Since I'm not white that would probably be Ulysses S. Grant, actually.

Adam's, ... that's fair. But he was the only one.

[Novus America]

And this is why when someone tells me they wanna go back to the 1950s or early 60s, I ask them if they're naive.

Every bad thing that is happening now (racism, drug abuse, suicide, domestic violence, teen pregnancy) happened then, but back then everybody was a fake piece of crap, and pretended that wasn't happening.

Kennedy did the same shit behind his wife's back that trump does, but nowadays trump openly talks about it while Kennedy had to pretend to be a good Irish catholic man (he was Irish but a good catholic man he was not).

A lot of good things also started in the 50's the civil rights movement, mass market stores bring luxury goods to the lower middle class, advances in entertainment and medicine, like the polio vaccine.

An interesting book to read about the period and its effects afterwards is called the 50's by David halbastrand


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifties_(book)

They were no utopia at all but were a time of great progress.
The amount of advances in technology and science was massive. Compare an aircraft from 1950 with one from 1960. Of course this meant a newly developed fighter would be obsolete in a few years.
Modern computers and networked computers which would become the internet started then too
Space exploration as well.

And of course big advances in civil rights.

Actually someone from them would be disappointed to see our technology now, they thought by the 2000s we would have nuclear powered interplanetary spaceships and all based on the rate technology advanced. That because everything would be nuclear air pollution would be gone.

But sure trying to go back is neither possible nor desirable and there were a lot of problems.

Although being before the drug war and deindustrialization were benefits too.

But anyways it was of course a very flawed time in many ways but it does not deserve the hate it sometimes gets either. It is is easy to see why it has appeal, besides simple aesthetics. It had some very good and some very bad aspects.

But sure we cannot turn back time, and not would we want to.

[Rojava Free State]

A lot of good things also started in the 50's the civil rights movement, mass market stores bring luxury goods to the lower middle class, advances in entertainment and medicine, like the polio vaccine.

An interesting book to read about the period and its effects afterwards is called the 50's by David halbastrand


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifties_(book)

They were no utopia at all but were a time of great progress.
The amount of advances in technology and science was massive. Compare an aircraft from 1950 with one from 1960. Of course this meant a newly developed fighter would be obsolete in a few years.
Modern computers and networked computers which would become the internet started then too
Space exploration as well.

And of course big advances in civil rights.

Actually someone from them would be disappointed to see our technology now, they thought by the 2000s we would have nuclear powered interplanetary spaceships and all based on the rate technology advanced. That because everything would be nuclear air pollution would be gone.

But sure trying to go back is neither possible nor desirable and there were a lot of problems.

Although being before the drug war and deindustrialization were benefits too.

But anyways it was of course a very flawed time in many ways but it does not deserve the hate it sometimes gets either. It is is easy to see why it has appeal, besides simple aesthetics. It had some very good and some very bad aspects.

But sure we cannot turn back time, and not would we want to.

You can't go back to the past. You can only make the future bright.

[Novus America]

They were no utopia at all but were a time of great progress.
The amount of advances in technology and science was massive. Compare an aircraft from 1950 with one from 1960. Of course this meant a newly developed fighter would be obsolete in a few years.
Modern computers and networked computers which would become the internet started then too
Space exploration as well.

And of course big advances in civil rights.

Actually someone from them would be disappointed to see our technology now, they thought by the 2000s we would have nuclear powered interplanetary spaceships and all based on the rate technology advanced. That because everything would be nuclear air pollution would be gone.

But sure trying to go back is neither possible nor desirable and there were a lot of problems.

Although being before the drug war and deindustrialization were benefits too.

But anyways it was of course a very flawed time in many ways but it does not deserve the hate it sometimes gets either. It is is easy to see why it has appeal, besides simple aesthetics. It had some very good and some very bad aspects.

But sure we cannot turn back time, and not would we want to.

You can't go back to the past. You can only make the future bright.

Exactly. We can learn from the past, try to learn from what worked and what did not, but we cannot go back to the past, only build the future.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

You heard me, fascist.

Whoa that's a pretty big accusation.

Integralism is a form of fascism and he identifies as one. *shrug*

[Rojava Free State]

Whoa that's a pretty big accusation.

Integralism is a form of fascism and he identifies as one. *shrug*

A christian fascist?

[Sundiata]

Whoa that's a pretty big accusation.

Integralism is a form of fascism and he identifies as one. *shrug*

That's incorrect. Catholic Integralism is not fascism. I am strongly opposed to fascism.

[Sundiata]

You heard me, fascist.

Whoa that's a pretty big accusation.

Our friend is just mistaken, it's fine.