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Why do you think casual sex is immoral or should not be practiced, if you do?

My religion says so
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13%
It promotes STD spread
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16%
It is degrading
61
15%
It is selfish
35
9%
Other (describe in a reply)
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5%
I don't think it is immoral
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Total votes : 405

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Postby Auristania » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:11 pm

Please define Casual Sex.

Women often fuck alpha males and rarely fuck beta males.

Are you saying it is a Virtue for women to fuck alphas and a Vice for them to fuck betas?

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:24 pm

Auristania wrote:Please define Casual Sex.

Women often fuck alpha males and rarely fuck beta males.

Are you saying it is a Virtue for women to fuck alphas and a Vice for them to fuck betas?

To the best of my understanding, there's no convincing evidence that the whole Alpha/Beta dynamic exists in humans.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:28 pm

Auristania wrote:Please define Casual Sex.

Women often fuck alpha males and rarely fuck beta males.

Are you saying it is a Virtue for women to fuck alphas and a Vice for them to fuck betas?


I'm just gonna stop you right there. Women fuck beta males all the time, and that's because as Bob Seger said "there's always women for the second best."

The only places where women throw themselves at some alleged big cheese is places like where I live, aka shitholes. This doesn't happen anywhere where less than 10% of the population are degenerate scum. I really feel for you, since something clearly warped your view of relationships. But not everyone is awful.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:28 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Auristania wrote:Please define Casual Sex.

Women often fuck alpha males and rarely fuck beta males.

Are you saying it is a Virtue for women to fuck alphas and a Vice for them to fuck betas?

To the best of my understanding, there's no convincing evidence that the whole Alpha/Beta dynamic exists in humans.


To be fair some people are more assertive than others.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:33 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Alvecia wrote:To the best of my understanding, there's no convincing evidence that the whole Alpha/Beta dynamic exists in humans.


To be fair some people are more assertive than others.

That's stretching a bit
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:55 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Alvecia wrote:To the best of my understanding, there's no convincing evidence that the whole Alpha/Beta dynamic exists in humans.


To be fair some people are more assertive than others.

Some people also have brow ridges, but it doesn't mean that we're innately alpha males.

It's just a coincidence that we are.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
To be fair some people are more assertive than others.

That's stretching a bit


No it isn't. There are definitely individuals who are more assertive and confident than others.
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Postby Kernen » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:22 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Alvecia wrote:That's stretching a bit


No it isn't. There are definitely individuals who are more assertive and confident than others.

That does not an alpha make.
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Postby Kortunal » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:23 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Auristania wrote:Please define Casual Sex.

Women often fuck alpha males and rarely fuck beta males.

Are you saying it is a Virtue for women to fuck alphas and a Vice for them to fuck betas?

To the best of my understanding, there's no convincing evidence that the whole Alpha/Beta dynamic exists in humans.

There's no convincing evidence it even exists in wolves, where the idea originated. It was all based on a study of a bunch of unrelated, captive wolves that were housed together, which is about as useful as a study of ten polar bears kept in an enclosure that formerly housed camels. The study only tells us anything about how wolves behave when forced into that specific unnatural situation, and needless to say, it tells us precisely nothing about humans.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:33 pm

Kernen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
No it isn't. There are definitely individuals who are more assertive and confident than others.

That does not an alpha make.


Well what do you define as an alpha then?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:38 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Kernen wrote:That does not an alpha make.


Well what do you define as an alpha then?

nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Well what do you define as an alpha then?

nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.

I just googled it to see if I was right, and apparently the guy who popularised the idea of the "alpha/beta" dynamic in wolves, has since rejected that such thing exists in wolves, let alone humans.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Well what do you define as an alpha then?

nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.


So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.


So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?

An asshole?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?

An asshole?


I didn't know that being able to take charge when it's time to rise to the occasion made one an asshole.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:03 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:An asshole?


I didn't know that being able to take charge when it's time to rise to the occasion made one an asshole.

Being "domineering" does.

Domineer - to assert one's will over another in an arrogant way.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I didn't know that being able to take charge when it's time to rise to the occasion made one an asshole.

Being "domineering" does.


I think we're thinking of different things when that word is used. You're thinking of a guy who forces other people to obey him without question and tries to feel superior to others, while I'm thinking of the guy who yells "you call 911, and you go get mall security" when an old guy has a heart attack at the shopping center.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:05 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Being "domineering" does.


I think we're thinking of different things when that word is used. You're thinking of a guy who forces other people to obey him without question and tries to feel superior to others, while I'm thinking of the guy who yells "you call 911, and you go get mall security" when an old guy has a heart attack at the shopping center.

So you're using the word incorrectly.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:07 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I think we're thinking of different things when that word is used. You're thinking of a guy who forces other people to obey him without question and tries to feel superior to others, while I'm thinking of the guy who yells "you call 911, and you go get mall security" when an old guy has a heart attack at the shopping center.

So you're using the word incorrectly.


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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:11 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.


So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?

a confident guy? a chad? there's plenty of terms that aren't rooted in bullshit evopsych
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Postby New haven america » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:nothing, because alphas are a myth invented by misogynistic PUAs and incels.


So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?

Annoying.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So what do you call a man who is super confident and domineering in personality?

Annoying.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:46 pm


Correlation =/= Causation.

Besides, the real reason for wanting to keep people, specifically women, from casual sex is the fear that if they have any experiences they can compare, they may realize their lover may not be that good.

The answer is not to keep people ignorant, it's to have good/put effort into improving one's technique.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:50 pm

Shillistan wrote:Higher levels of sexual promiscuity correlates with higher rates of drug abuse and depression, so aside from the risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancy you're also doing your mental health a disservice if you behave like a skank.

Blame the man-whores who also have sex outside of marriage then.

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:57 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Terran Peoples Combine wrote:I seem to recall Jesus whipping the bankers and distributing fish.


I remember Jesus going and kicking the money changers' asses. I know we have this idea of Jesus being a pacifist and an overall nice guy but that was one time someone fucked with Jesus and shouldn't have fucked with him.

Don't forget it was premeditated. He sat down and braided the whip before he went in there upending tables and scourging the moneylenders.

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