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Why do you think casual sex is immoral or should not be practiced, if you do?

My religion says so
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It promotes STD spread
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It is degrading
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It is selfish
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Other (describe in a reply)
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5%
I don't think it is immoral
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:36 am

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No one would ask someone underage to do something like that.

All we are saying is, since you are young, your concept of this subject is limited.

You cannot simply wait for someone to have sex with. Relationships happen, and break down. It's part of human development.

I can wait, thanks.


Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 08, 2020 9:37 am

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:NSG: "no you can't say that you're doing a fallacy"
also NSG: "oh, you're 15? guess your opinion doesn't count"

"Rules for thee, but not for me" I guess. Of course, we already knew NSG was like this from the fact most threads don't involve people shouting for a source like seagulls. Which is what almost every reply to me has been in this thread.


Then learn to provide authority for claims to support them. Otherwise it's no more convincing, as mentioned before, than "I like turtles."

And for what its worth, you lacking practical experience and sources mean your arguments are without any support but your feels.

Well, as David Hume said, reason is and ought to be a slave to the passions.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 08, 2020 9:38 am

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I can wait, thanks.


Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

What if you don’t enter any relationships since everyone you know treats you like some kind of nobody? Hypothetically speaking, of course. :^(
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 9:38 am

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Celritannia wrote:Yeah, I don't think a 15 year old has any experience to give sex or dating advice.


If Tiktok is to be believed many 15 year olds already had over 5 sexual partners.

Actual studies say otherwise. If by TikTok you mean people saying that on the app, maybe it has something to do with the culture of pressuring children into having sex at a very young age so they can be cool and mature and all that.

Not at all related to what anyone on this thread has said before someone starts going 'SO WHERE ON THIS THREAD DID SOMEONE SAY THAT' but it's really 'funny' (it's not) when people go "medieval people forced children to have sex!! Thank god I do not live in the world of completely accurate television show Game of Thrones" while they themselves are furthering something even worse. Like idk at least the vast majority of marriages back then in England at least were late teens to early twenties, now it's early teens to mid teens or you're not normal and probably an incel or something.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:38 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
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Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

What if you don’t enter any relationships since everyone you know treats you like some kind of nobody? Hypothetically speaking, of course. :^(


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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri May 08, 2020 9:39 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
No one would ask someone underage to do something like that.

All we are saying is, since you are young, your concept of this subject is limited.

You cannot simply wait for someone to have sex with. Relationships happen, and break down. It's part of human development.

I can wait, thanks.


The question is if you should. There exists an extreme amount of sexual activities and all humans have preferences. The only way to discover what yours are is to experiment.

You can ofc do that with someone you have already decided you want to spend your life with; but chances are high they will not share many of your preferences. Does not have to be a dealbreaker - marriage is more than sex after all - but something to keep in mind.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 9:40 am

Celritannia wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I can wait, thanks.


Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

I'd like one relationship that lasts forever, but if that's not possible I'll take lifelong celibacy over multiple relationships that don't or casual sex, thanks.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:40 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
If Tiktok is to be believed many 15 year olds already had over 5 sexual partners.

Actual studies say otherwise. If by TikTok you mean people saying that on the app, maybe it has something to do with the culture of pressuring children into having sex at a very young age so they can be cool and mature and all that.

Not at all related to what anyone on this thread has said before someone starts going 'SO WHERE ON THIS THREAD DID SOMEONE SAY THAT' but it's really 'funny' (it's not) when people go "medieval people forced children to have sex!! Thank god I do not live in the world of completely accurate television show Game of Thrones" while they themselves are furthering something even worse. Like idk at least the vast majority of marriages back then in England at least were late teens to early twenties, now it's early teens to mid teens or you're not normal and probably an incel or something.


Those marriages at those young ages back then was for political influence. Marriage was not about love.

People waiting to get marriage is actually a good thing, especially how women and men hold jobs now.

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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:41 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

I'd like one relationship that lasts forever, but if that's not possible I'll take lifelong celibacy over multiple relationships that don't or casual sex, thanks.


I thought that when I was between 18 and 25, didn't happen.

Life does not work out like you expect it will.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:41 am

Celritannia wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I can wait, thanks.


Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.


I remember when I first met the girl of my dreams...and then I met the next girl of my dreams and the next and the next and the next and the next...

...and then I grew the hell up and realized it was my dick doing the thinking and that no relationship lasts forever and soul mates aren't a thing. I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years now and while I wouldnt mind us being together forever, I don't get my hopes up.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

What if you don’t enter any relationships since everyone you know treats you like some kind of nobody? Hypothetically speaking, of course. :^(


I mean thats how people treated me for years and I still got girls. I just didn't keep them.
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am

Celritannia wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I can wait, thanks.


Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

Dating's actually a relatively new activity, at least in the West.

It used to be that your parents sold you off or you wait until your an adult, meet someone, and then marry them and never get divorced. No other options.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.


I remember when I first met the girl of my dreams...and then I met the next girl of my dreams and the next and the next and the next and the next...

...and then I grew the hell up and realized it was my dick doing the thinking and that no relationship lasts forever and soul mates aren't a thing. I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years now and while I wouldnt mind us being together forever, I don't get my hopes up.


What time did you leave the strip club? :lol2:

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am

Celritannia wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I'd like one relationship that lasts forever, but if that's not possible I'll take lifelong celibacy over multiple relationships that don't or casual sex, thanks.


I thought that when I was between 18 and 25, didn't happen.

Life does not work out like you expect it will.


Damn, you've had longer to become disillusioned than even I have.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:43 am

New haven america wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

Dating's actually a relatively new activity, at least in the West.

It used to be that your parents sold you off or you wait until your an adult, meet someone, and then marry them and never get divorced. No other options.


Yup, that I know :P

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 am

Celritannia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I remember when I first met the girl of my dreams...and then I met the next girl of my dreams and the next and the next and the next and the next...

...and then I grew the hell up and realized it was my dick doing the thinking and that no relationship lasts forever and soul mates aren't a thing. I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years now and while I wouldnt mind us being together forever, I don't get my hopes up.


What time did you leave the strip club? :lol2:


I was carried out kicking and screaming on amphetamines at maybe almost 4 in the morning. Spent a day in the slammer before my friend Josh bailed me out and said "Mark get your shit together. You're busy ruffling feathers."
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 am

New haven america wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Just remember, not all relationships you enter will last forever.

Dating's actually a relatively new activity, at least in the West.

It used to be that your parents sold you off or you wait until your an adult, meet someone, and then marry them and never get divorced. No other options.


Untrue. You could rape your intended spouse. Then the two of you had to marry according to Biblical law.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
I thought that when I was between 18 and 25, didn't happen.

Life does not work out like you expect it will.


Damn, you've had longer to become disillusioned than even I have.


It was my first and only relationship thus far.

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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

Celritannia wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Actual studies say otherwise. If by TikTok you mean people saying that on the app, maybe it has something to do with the culture of pressuring children into having sex at a very young age so they can be cool and mature and all that.

Not at all related to what anyone on this thread has said before someone starts going 'SO WHERE ON THIS THREAD DID SOMEONE SAY THAT' but it's really 'funny' (it's not) when people go "medieval people forced children to have sex!! Thank god I do not live in the world of completely accurate television show Game of Thrones" while they themselves are furthering something even worse. Like idk at least the vast majority of marriages back then in England at least were late teens to early twenties, now it's early teens to mid teens or you're not normal and probably an incel or something.


Those marriages at those young ages back then was for political influence. Marriage was not about love.

People waiting to get marriage is actually a good thing, especially how women and men hold jobs now.

The vast majority of marriages of which I speak were about love, at least in (significant) part.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
New haven america wrote:Dating's actually a relatively new activity, at least in the West.

It used to be that your parents sold you off or you wait until your an adult, meet someone, and then marry them and never get divorced. No other options.


Untrue. You could rape your intended spouse. Then the two of you had to marry according to Biblical law.


Ah yes, good old religion. Here to make the world even more hellish in the name of heaven.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

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Celritannia wrote:
What time did you leave the strip club? :lol2:


I was carried out kicking and screaming on amphetamines at maybe almost 4 in the morning. Spent a day in the slammer before my friend Josh bailed me out and said "Mark get your shit together. You're busy ruffling feathers."

Your name is Mark?
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I'd like one relationship that lasts forever, but if that's not possible I'll take lifelong celibacy over multiple relationships that don't or casual sex, thanks.


I thought that when I was between 18 and 25, didn't happen.

Life does not work out like you expect it will.

Thought all of it or?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Those marriages at those young ages back then was for political influence. Marriage was not about love.

People waiting to get marriage is actually a good thing, especially how women and men hold jobs now.

The vast majority of marriages of which I speak were about love, at least in (significant) part.


Most people didn't marry for love in say 1352.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Those marriages at those young ages back then was for political influence. Marriage was not about love.

People waiting to get marriage is actually a good thing, especially how women and men hold jobs now.

The vast majority of marriages of which I speak were about love, at least in (significant) part.


Pahaha, if you are refering to before 1900s, then no.

Economic stance and a family's power meant far more than love.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 am

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Damn, you've had longer to become disillusioned than even I have.


It was my first and only relationship thus far.


You were with a girl from 18 to 25?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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