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Why do you think casual sex is immoral or should not be practiced, if you do?

My religion says so
51
13%
It promotes STD spread
65
16%
It is degrading
61
15%
It is selfish
35
9%
Other (describe in a reply)
22
5%
I don't think it is immoral
171
42%
 
Total votes : 405

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Postby New haven america » Fri May 08, 2020 4:12 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.

If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.

Wait till they learn about FWB's...
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:13 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.

If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.

I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 08, 2020 4:16 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.

I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

Then if sex is that important to you in a relationship (Which is weird considering how much you've ranted against it thus far), then don't date asexuals.

Problem=Solved.
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Postby Kernen » Fri May 08, 2020 4:16 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.

I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

Based on some of your expectations, it might be.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 08, 2020 4:17 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.

I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

Based on your posts, yes.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:18 am

Kernen wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

Based on some of your expectations, it might be.

Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)
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Postby Kernen » Fri May 08, 2020 4:18 am

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Why would you and how can you say this

Well, in my opinion, many young men have not seen how virtue enhances beauty. If they did, they'd be attending church in droves. It's almost like seeing Mother Mary in the flesh.


I've seen virtuous women that meet the standard you've outlines. Not my cup of tea.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 08, 2020 4:19 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Kernen wrote:Based on some of your expectations, it might be.

Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Oh, are you giving up the Northumbria pipe dream? That's fantastic news; maybe there is hope for you yet!
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:19 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Explain your arguments rather than resorting to just saying "Google it"; you have done that several times now. It is academically lazy, so this argument is getting thrown in the bin until as and when you can explain it yourself.

NSG is not academic.

In as much as NSGeneral is used for debating it is academic in its style, so trying to fob me off with some "just Google it!" bullshit is academically lazy, even for our purposes here.
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Postby Kernen » Fri May 08, 2020 4:19 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Kernen wrote:Based on some of your expectations, it might be.

Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Thats the great thing about a liberal attitude. You do you, I'll do what works for me, and we'll both be happy.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:20 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Oh, are you giving up the Northumbria pipe dream? That's fantastic news; maybe there is hope for you yet!

I have come to recognise the place of Northumbria within the English nation.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:20 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:NSG is not academic.

In as much as NSGeneral is used for debating it is academic in its style, so trying to fob me off with some "just Google it!" bullshit is academically lazy, even for our purposes here.

No debate in NSG has ever been academic.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 08, 2020 4:21 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Oh, are you giving up the Northumbria pipe dream? That's fantastic news; maybe there is hope for you yet!

I have come to recognise the place of Northumbria within the English nation.

Recognizing the territorial integrity of England is the first step on the path to getting a girlfriend, so keep up the good work, pal!
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:21 am

Kernen wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Thats the great thing about a liberal attitude. You do you, I'll do what works for me, and we'll both be happy.

Not really.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri May 08, 2020 4:22 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Kernen wrote:Thats the great thing about a liberal attitude. You do you, I'll do what works for me, and we'll both be happy.

Not really.

Why not?
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Postby Kernen » Fri May 08, 2020 4:22 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
Kernen wrote:Thats the great thing about a liberal attitude. You do you, I'll do what works for me, and we'll both be happy.

Not really.


You're right. Its more like "I genuinely don't care what you do so long as you leave me alone to live how I want," but in the end, I'm happy, and that's what matters.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:25 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I have come to recognise the place of Northumbria within the English nation.

Recognizing the territorial integrity of England is the first step on the path to getting a girlfriend, so keep up the good work, pal!

There are some lines I'm not going to cross.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 08, 2020 4:25 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:In as much as NSGeneral is used for debating it is academic in its style, so trying to fob me off with some "just Google it!" bullshit is academically lazy, even for our purposes here.

No debate in NSG has ever been academic.

Of course many have been academic in style. But since you cannot provide your own argument then your "just Google it" can be dismissed.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri May 08, 2020 4:38 am

Kernen wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Well, in my opinion, many young men have not seen how virtue enhances beauty. If they did, they'd be attending church in droves. It's almost like seeing Mother Mary in the flesh.


I've seen virtuous women that meet the standard you've outlines. Not my cup of tea.
If so, I'm surprised.

While I wouldn't use the word perfect to describe such women, their countenance does mirror it. They often become nuns and religious sisters like Mother Theresa.

Timeless beauty.
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Postby Snakeden » Fri May 08, 2020 4:40 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.


Ah, yes. How silly of me. How could I possibly have mistaken one of my regular friendships for my partner? Because I own joint bank accounts with all of my friends, and rent homes with all of my friends, and sleep in the same bed all the time as all of my friends, and introduce all my friends to my parents as the people I want to stick with until I'm 90 and can't tell my face from my feet. I totally talk about whether I'm going to share a grave space with my friends, or be side by side of them, or whether I'd like to be cremated and sprinkled over their plot. I deep dive onto painful personal subjects I couldn't even reliably tell a therapist with every friend I have. All my friends and I make habits of deciding whether we should adopt kids together or just spoil our pets forever instead. I roll over and wake up every friend I have and sob on their shoulder when I have a terrible nightmare. This'll make helping my friends try on and choose clothing a lot easier too, now that I can just waltz into the fitting room with them all while they disrobe and redress. I guess I can't have any visitors during family hours only now that all I have are friends. Those other friends I have are going to have to sit down with me and discuss grocery bills and furniture purchases and whether we want to paint the walls or not. And oh boy, won't my friends be stunned when I tell them we could have all been scrubbing each other's back in the shower the whole time? Gosh, I just keep thinking of things. Boy, I wish I'd known that sex was the only real difference between the two! I guess I'll go break the news to my partner now. I'm sure we'll get a huge laugh out of it together!

Anyway. It's clear to me that a lot of these religious arguments are controlling and outdated bunk, and fall apart the minute someone gets outside of the immediate range of one allosexual man + one allosexual woman with a church-given worldview, simply due to the fact that other people exist as valid proof of not immediately bursting into flames or living horrible, miserable lives. I've no use for them in my life and wash my hands of them and their views of casual sex (or lack of, apparently).
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Postby Sundiata » Fri May 08, 2020 5:05 am

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

You already have eternal love. :p

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Devote your life to Christ and bear his cross, the rest is vanity.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri May 08, 2020 5:08 am

Sundiata wrote:
Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:I just want a qt gf and mutual eternal love, is that too much to ask

You already have eternal love. :p

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Guess I'll just devote my life to my country instead then :)

Devote your life to Christ and bear his cross, the rest is vanity.

Question:

By what right do you proselytize the notion that people's personal relationships should be controlled by your religious beliefs, when the sole basis of these beliefs cannot be proven?
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Who are you to tell us what we may and may not do? We stopped being your slaves an era ago. "
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In the midst of a room-temperature cultural revolution that's lost its momentum, the Party carefully plans its next move.
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Postby Kernen » Fri May 08, 2020 5:08 am

Sundiata wrote:
Kernen wrote:
I've seen virtuous women that meet the standard you've outlines. Not my cup of tea.
If so, I'm surprised.

While I wouldn't use the word perfect to describe such women, their countenance does mirror it. They often become nuns and religious sisters like Mother Theresa.

Timeless beauty.

Its almost like this is all subjective and we all have different wants and priorities in life.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri May 08, 2020 5:12 am

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Sundiata wrote:You already have eternal love. :p


Devote your life to Christ and bear his cross, the rest is vanity.

Question:

By what right do you proselytize the notion that people's personal relationships should be controlled by your religious beliefs, when the sole basis of these beliefs cannot be proven?

Divine right.

There are many proofs for my beliefs but this is not the thread for Aquinas.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri May 08, 2020 5:45 am

Sundiata wrote:Divine right.


Nah. You have a perfectly valid right to speak your beliefs and hold them dear, but you don't have a special right that your particular faith is correct or anything. Yours is but one possibility and God isn't poking his head down to tell us which one is true.

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