The morality of casual sex

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

I am a radical disciple of Robert Lanza, who you should google if you want to understand me (just as how a basic understanding of who Marx is can be considered essential for engaging with Marxist posters on NSG).

Explain your arguments rather than resorting to just saying "Google it"; you have done that several times now. It is academically lazy, so this argument is getting thrown in the bin until as and when you can explain it yourself.

NSG is not academic.

[New haven america]

That's nice, Unwin is a fucking racist cunt so imma need a better source for that.

Also, you can have sex without having kids, deary~

Alright explain to me how he's a "fucking racist cunt".

Probably because he was a European scientist who spent most of his time studying "Primitive Civilizations" of the time in order to come up with various explanations for why they are the way they are, namely that them being more open to sex is why they're lesser evolved.

Which just reeks Social Darwinism.

[Cekoviu]

Yeah, but some people (totally justifiably) don't want to put in the large amount of effort required to do that. I'm not one of them, but I can't blame them tbh.

See 5. here.

(modify for your case of not being one of them)

Now, I know you don't believe in time, but bear with me here: When someone makes a blanket decision to not date virgins, they are not in love with a virgin at the time. They are making that decision purely on the basis of a hypothetical, amorphous set of virgins. Oftentimes, it's not completely set in stone and if they do happen to fall in love with a virgin, they will be willing to put in the time and effort.

[New haven america]

I am a radical disciple of Robert Lanza, who you should google if you want to understand me (just as how a basic understanding of who Marx is can be considered essential for engaging with Marxist posters on NSG).

Explain your arguments rather than resorting to just saying "Google it"; you have done that several times now. It is academically lazy, so this argument is getting thrown in the bin until as and when you can explain it yourself.

Apparently his main inspiration comes from JD Unwin, a European anthropologist and seeming Social Darwinist who spent most of his time trying to find out why other civilizations weren't as advanced as the West and came to the ultimate conclusion that it's because of sexual immorality.

[Kernen]

Nah, my wife is an expert on many, many tunes. Because she got in there and learned before she met me.

Why would you and how can you say this

Well, one because its fact.

Two, because she met me with all the skills to be a good partner, which included experience in bed. Which I expected. I was absolutely unwilling to kick off a relationship with a virgin.

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

Alright explain to me how he's a "fucking racist cunt".

Probably because he was a European scientist who spent most of his time studying "Primitive Civilizations" of the time in order to come up with various explanations for why they are the way they are, namely that them being more open to sex is why they're lesser evolved.

Which just reeks Social Darwinism.

Really? Not even the people who go after him over feminism (incorrectly, because he supported equal rights for men and women) have tried to use that attack against him to my knowledge. Either they have somehow all missed what would be a very powerful attack or it's an even less [you get what i'm saying here but i've forgot the word] line of attack than the equality one.

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

Explain your arguments rather than resorting to just saying "Google it"; you have done that several times now. It is academically lazy, so this argument is getting thrown in the bin until as and when you can explain it yourself.

Apparently his main inspiration comes from JD Unwin, a European anthropologist and seeming Social Darwinist who spent most of his time trying to find out what other civilizations weren't as advanced as the West and came to the conclusion that it's because of sexual immorality.

In that post I was talking about Robert Lanza, who is not J. D. Unwin.

[Kernen]

Oh, so you've done both to compare?

With matters other than sex, yes.

Unless those matters were "playing basketball," I'm not sure they're comparable.

As somebody who has experience with both, I can assure you that is not the case.

[New haven america]

Apparently his main inspiration comes from JD Unwin, a European anthropologist and seeming Social Darwinist who spent most of his time trying to find out what other civilizations weren't as advanced as the West and came to the conclusion that it's because of sexual immorality.

In that post I was talking about Robert Lanza, who is not J. D. Unwin.

You were talking about Lanza, I was talking about Unwin, who you've mentioned multiple times thus far.

[Cekoviu]

Apparently his main inspiration comes from JD Unwin, a European anthropologist and seeming Social Darwinist who spent most of his time trying to find out what other civilizations weren't as advanced as the West and came to the conclusion that it's because of sexual immorality.

In that post I was talking about Robert Lanza, who is not J. D. Unwin.

You got a source for that claim, mate?

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

In that post I was talking about Robert Lanza, who is not J. D. Unwin.

You were talking about Lanza, I was talking about Unwin, who you've mentioned multiple times thus far.

And you were replying to a post concerning Lanza.

[New haven america]

You were talking about Lanza, I was talking about Unwin, who you've mentioned multiple times thus far.

And you were replying to a post concerning Lanza.

Yes, I'm 100% aware.

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

In that post I was talking about Robert Lanza, who is not J. D. Unwin.

You got a source for that claim, mate?

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

[Kernen]

You got a source for that claim, mate?

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

Arguments require support of rigorous reason or evidence. Without either, it's just an opinion. This is how debate works.

[New haven america]

You got a source for that claim, mate?

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

So you don't have a source?

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

So you don't have a source?

Sure, scroll up. It's right there.

[Sundiata]

Nah, my wife is an expert on many, many tunes. Because she got in there and learned before she met me.

Why would you and how can you say this

Well, in my opinion, many young men have not seen how virtue enhances beauty. If they did, they'd be attending church in droves. It's almost like seeing Mother Mary in the flesh.

[New haven america]

So you don't have a source?

Sure, scroll up. It's right there.

Where?

[Cekoviu]

You got a source for that claim, mate?

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

i was kidding, which i thought was obvious because i was responding to a tautology, but ok

[New haven america]

Why would you and how can you say this

Well, in my opinion, many young men have not seen how virtue enhances beauty. If they did, they'd be attending church in droves. It's almost like seeing Mother Mary in the flesh.

Mary was 14 when she got pregnant so that'd be pretty fucking creepy if they did.

[Snakeden]

In fact, sex is so fantastic, it's required to consummate a marriage.

Good to know that all marriages involving at least one asexual partner who is uninterested in or flat out repulsed by it aren't valid in the eyes of your god. I'd just love to know how you suggest those marriages be validated without trampling all over the rights and autonomy of the uninterested partner or denying their ability to love another person at all. Go on, tell me; I'll make a bag of popcorn while I wait. I'm sure it'll be a riot.

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

This post just feels the same as the other "Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't." posts directed at me in this thread tbh

i was kidding, which i thought was obvious because i was responding to a tautology, but ok

Yeah, that's the point, the joke post demanding a source just feels like all the other posts demanding a source

[Munkcestrian RepubIic]

In fact, sex is so fantastic, it's required to consummate a marriage.

Good to know that all marriages involving at least one asexual partner who is uninterested in or flat out repulsed by it aren't valid in the eyes of your god. I'd just love to know how you suggest those marriages be validated without trampling all over either the rights and autonomy of the uninterested partner or denying their ability to love another person at all. Go on, tell me; I'll make a bag of popcorn while I wait. I'm sure it'll be a riot.

Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.

[New haven america]

Good to know that all marriages involving at least one asexual partner who is uninterested in or flat out repulsed by it aren't valid in the eyes of your god. I'd just love to know how you suggest those marriages be validated without trampling all over either the rights and autonomy of the uninterested partner or denying their ability to love another person at all. Go on, tell me; I'll make a bag of popcorn while I wait. I'm sure it'll be a riot.

Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.

Are you asexual?

[Cekoviu]

Good to know that all marriages involving at least one asexual partner who is uninterested in or flat out repulsed by it aren't valid in the eyes of your god. I'd just love to know how you suggest those marriages be validated without trampling all over either the rights and autonomy of the uninterested partner or denying their ability to love another person at all. Go on, tell me; I'll make a bag of popcorn while I wait. I'm sure it'll be a riot.

Sounds more like friendship than marriage to me.

If you think the only thing separating a friendship from a marriage is sex, then you have absolutely no right to be making proclamations about proper relationships here tbqhwy.