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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:24 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Tell that to the Mormons.

I'm an ex-Mormon whose parents were both Mormon, so I'm maybe not the best person to be saying that to?

My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:fun fact: ideology is not genetic

Tell that to the Mormons.

Am Mormon, got ideology from trade unionist grandpa.

He was neither mormon nor actually the source of my ideology so not sure what I’m trying to say here.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm an ex-Mormon whose parents were both Mormon, so I'm maybe not the best person to be saying that to?

Twas a joke.

Ever heard the saying "it's funny because it's true"? Might want to incorporate that into your jokes into the future.
Northern Davincia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm an ex-Mormon whose parents were both Mormon, so I'm maybe not the best person to be saying that to?

My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.

I must begrudgingly admit that Catholicism is slightly better than Mormonism, yes.
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Lucja
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Postby Lucja » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:25 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm an ex-Mormon whose parents were both Mormon, so I'm maybe not the best person to be saying that to?

My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.


I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:26 pm

Lucja wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.


I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.

Wrong direction, buckaroo.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:26 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I'm an ex-Mormon whose parents were both Mormon, so I'm maybe not the best person to be saying that to?

My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.

In terms of theology, sure.
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South Odreria 2
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:fun fact: ideology is not genetic

Tell that to the Mormons.

Also, I wonder what you would think if someone said “tell that to the muslims” or “tell that to the Jews.”
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:31 pm

Lucja wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.


I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.

Speaking of which, the end of social distancing means that people can LARP again. /s
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:31 pm

Lucja wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:My maternal grandparents were Mormon, and now I am but a humble papist.
This is an improvement in my book.


I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.


Based and redpilled. I wasn't born into Christianity per se but I was raised around Christians and picked it up before leaving the faith eventually.
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Lucja
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Postby Lucja » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:32 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Lucja wrote:
I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.

Wrong direction, buckaroo.


Who would not want to worship Perun or Devana though?
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Policje - tajne, widne i dwu-płciowe -
Przeciwko komuż tak się pojednały?
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:34 pm

Lucja wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Wrong direction, buckaroo.


Who would not want to worship Perun or Devana though?

The only fun pagan religions are Hellenism and Egyptian. The rest are not worth touching.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:36 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lucja wrote:
Who would not want to worship Perun or Devana though?

The only fun pagan religions are Hellenism and Egyptian. The rest are not worth touching.


Idk fam I've been to a blot or two and they're enjoyable events.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:37 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Lucja wrote:
Who would not want to worship Perun or Devana though?

The only fun pagan religions are Hellenism and Egyptian. The rest are not worth touching.

Not even the paganism of Ancient Rome? Unless you count that as Hellenism...
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lucja wrote:
I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.


Based and redpilled. I wasn't born into Christianity per se but I was raised around Christians and picked it up before leaving the faith eventually.

So do you really believe in it or do you just kinda do it
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:38 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Based and redpilled. I wasn't born into Christianity per se but I was raised around Christians and picked it up before leaving the faith eventually.

So do you really believe in it or do you just kinda do it


Firmly believe. Religious experience is what brought me into polytheism, before that I was an at times obnoxiously militant atheist.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:41 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Tell that to the Mormons.

Also, I wonder what you would think if someone said “tell that to the muslims” or “tell that to the Jews.”

Religion and theology are not ideology. Ideology is secularized theology.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:So do you really believe in it or do you just kinda do it


Firmly believe. Religious experience is what brought me into polytheism, before that I was an at times obnoxiously militant atheist.

Based, actually.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:42 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The only fun pagan religions are Hellenism and Egyptian. The rest are not worth touching.

Not even the paganism of Ancient Rome? Unless you count that as Hellenism...

I suppose Hellenism can be an umbrella term for the faith of Greeks, Romans, Carthaginians, and Trojans.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:So do you really believe in it or do you just kinda do it


Firmly believe. Religious experience is what brought me into polytheism, before that I was an at times obnoxiously militant atheist.

What sort of experience could possibly lead someone to polytheism?
It sounds like a Protestant inversion of discovering faith.
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:43 pm

Fahran wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Also, I wonder what you would think if someone said “tell that to the muslims” or “tell that to the Jews.”

Religion and theology are not ideology. Ideology is secularized theology.


I'm not sure I entirely agree with that claim. Judaism in particular very much has some components that could be said to be ideological, especially nowadays.

Northern Davincia wrote:What sort of experience could possibly lead someone to polytheism?
It sounds like a Protestant inversion of discovering faith.


The same sort that could lead people to any faith really. It's not like Christianity has a monopoly on that.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:47 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Tell that to the Mormons.

Also, I wonder what you would think if someone said “tell that to the muslims” or “tell that to the Jews.”

I'd probably chuckle.

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:Not even the paganism of Ancient Rome? Unless you count that as Hellenism...

I suppose Hellenism can be an umbrella term for the faith of Greeks, Romans, Carthaginians, and Trojans.

Heh heh, Trojans.

The way that Abrahamism is an umbrella term for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam?
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Postby Lucja » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lucja wrote:
I was born a Catholic and became a pagan.

Which is even better.


Based and redpilled. I wasn't born into Christianity per se but I was raised around Christians and picked it up before leaving the faith eventually.


It was hard to escape Catholicism where I was raised. I don't have any animosity toward the Church but I struggle to comprehend why some members of my family consider it so interconnected with our identity when Catholicism has been only so much pain and suffering for Poland.
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Policje - tajne, widne i dwu-płciowe -
Przeciwko komuż tak się pojednały?
- Przeciwko kilku myślom... co nienowe!

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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:52 pm

Lucja wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Based and redpilled. I wasn't born into Christianity per se but I was raised around Christians and picked it up before leaving the faith eventually.


It was hard to escape Catholicism where I was raised. I don't have any animosity toward the Church but I struggle to comprehend why some members of my family consider it so interconnected with our identity when Catholicism has been only so much pain and suffering for Poland.

I assume it’s because Poland and Catholicism are deeply intertwined with one another, and trying to understand Poland without Catholicism is like eating pizza without cheese.
Possible. But stupid.
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Postby Italios » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:53 pm

I dont trust ppl who are like atheist, no wait christian, no atheist, no pagan, no christian

God is not fleeting

been reading Anselm of canterbury recently and enjoying it very much so
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
Lucja wrote:
It was hard to escape Catholicism where I was raised. I don't have any animosity toward the Church but I struggle to comprehend why some members of my family consider it so interconnected with our identity when Catholicism has been only so much pain and suffering for Poland.

I assume it’s because Poland and Catholicism are deeply intertwined with one another, and trying to understand Poland without Catholicism is like eating pizza without cheese.
Possible. But stupid.

On the other hand, removing the marinara sauce from pizza to make a margherita pizza makes it much better -- one could argue that Catholicism is the tomato sauce of Poland rather than the cheese.
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