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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:50 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US can likely force Hormuz open without much trouble.

Why would we open it?
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:50 am

if Iran closes it and tries to prevent Arabs from exporting through it
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:51 am

oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:51 am

Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck

Oil supply is so much greater than demand that oil companies are literally having to pay the market to take their oil.
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Postby New Lunenburg » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am

Diopolis wrote:
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Haha that does sound fun. I suppose the Mass in honour of Bl. Karl is the Austrian equivalent of our Masses in England said in honour of Charles, King and Martyr.

We're not Austrian.
Why American trads have such a devotion to him, I'm not sure. He speaks to us, somehow.


I suppose it's the lack of Saints that represent a Catholic America in the same way that a beatified Habsburg represents Catholic Austria. It's somewhat similar in England given that Catholicism was forced underground for centuries and was mainly grown by waves of Irish, Italian and Polish immigration after that.
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am

Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck

it means if you own futures in oil you move them for a loss because you expect their value to decrease (whereas the buyer doesnt)
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck

Oil supply is so much greater than demand that oil companies are literally having to pay the market to take their oil.

absolute madmen
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am

Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck


Time to stock up.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:54 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck


Time to stock up.

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Postby Sundiata » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sundiata wrote:More faithful, potentially.


Given the YouTuber in question they're probably a bunch of zoomers who know nothing of scripture.

That's just fine. Our Lord didn't come for the learned.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:55 am

Sundiata wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Given the YouTuber in question they're probably a bunch of zoomers who know nothing of scripture.

That's just fine. Our Lord didn't come for the learned.


I don't think he came for tide pod eaters either :p
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:55 am

Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck

green revolution time, my lads
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Postby Italios » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:58 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:if Iran closes it and tries to prevent Arabs from exporting through it

why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
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Postby Sildorian Empire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:59 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:oil is literally less than worthless now?
how the fuck

green revolution time, my lads

Honestly I hope this thing jump-starts the entry of the world into using only clean energy, but it's more likely we'll get a war to rectify the situation than anything sane.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:59 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Religion has been historically more high status than it is today, whether or not individually women are more religious than men.

US is a bit behind on the trend compared to Europe, but religion is losing, not gaining statius.

And women remain more religious than men in the United States, even as religion becomes somewhat less associated with status. The same appears to hold true of Latin America and Europe as well. In terms of claimed adherence to a religion, there doesn't seem to be a single country where men surpass women. In the countries where women fall behind in terms of attending services, it's notable that women's ability to travel and engage in activity beyond the home is often quite limited - with male relatives needing to be present in some places. My point here is that women always seem to have been important as a subsection of the congregation and have usually been less willing to stray.

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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:00 pm

Italios wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:if Iran closes it and tries to prevent Arabs from exporting through it

why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
yeah exactly.

If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:01 pm

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Religion has been historically more high status than it is today, whether or not individually women are more religious than men.

US is a bit behind on the trend compared to Europe, but religion is losing, not gaining statius.

And women remain more religious than men in the United States, even as religion becomes somewhat less associated with status. The same appears to hold true of Latin America and Europe as well. In terms of claimed adherence to a religion, there doesn't seem to be a single country where men surpass women. In the countries where women fall behind in terms of attending services, it's notable that women's ability to travel and engage in activity beyond the home is often quite limited - with male relatives needing to be present in some places. My point here is that women always seem to have been important as a subsection of the congregation and have usually been less willing to stray.

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That's mildly interesting (sincerely) but it doesn't detract from what I was saying.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:03 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
yeah exactly.

If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

Closing the strait would raise the price.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:03 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
yeah exactly.

If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.


But Iran closing the straight would increase oil prices, which is actually what we want. Plus cut our competition out of the market.

Them closing it would benefit us.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:04 pm

...

yeah duh, brainfart, sorry
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:05 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:That's mildly interesting (sincerely) but it doesn't detract from what I was saying.

It's mostly a contradiction with a previous point you made. Christian women especially seem to be observant and active in their community. Jewish, Muslim, and Hindu women aren't doing too shabby either, though we seem to fall behind in attendance and prayers for a variety of reasons. And women are more likely than men to self-identify with these religions everywhere.

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:women mostly aren’t religious (read: christian) because religion is low status. in islamic or hindu societies where religion is high status, almost all women are religious
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:06 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
yeah exactly.

If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

Would that cause a war? Is there any perceivable way to fix this?
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:06 pm

Sildorian Empire wrote:
Italios wrote:i pray every day iran does the right thing and closes the strait of hormuz lol

It's gonna be glorious, they might bring it back up to 0$ if they do it fast enough lmao

I appreciate this banter.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:08 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote: yeah exactly.

If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

Would that cause a war? Is there any perceivable way to fix this?
aside from my prior brainfart

On a general note if Iran "closes the strait of Hormuz" that involves aero-naval forces physically preventing any ships from entering or leaving. The task is then to the US Navy (and whoever else they can get to help them, possibly British, French and Indians) to "open" the strait by pretty much uninstalling the Iranian navy and air force, which wouldn't be too big of a problem.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:09 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Would that cause a war? Is there any perceivable way to fix this?
aside from my prior brainfart

On a general note if Iran "closes the strait of Hormuz" that involves aero-naval forces physically preventing any ships from entering or leaving. The task is then to the US Navy (and whoever else they can get to help them, possibly British, French and Indians) to "open" the strait by pretty much uninstalling the Iranian navy and air force, which wouldn't be too big of a problem.

Sooooo is the US economy unfixable or no? My rational mind says anything is fixable, but my panic switch says, “What, how?”
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