Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US can likely force Hormuz open without much trouble.
Why would we open it?
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by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:50 am
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:US can likely force Hormuz open without much trouble.

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:50 am

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by New Lunenburg » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am
Diopolis wrote:New Lunenburg wrote:
Haha that does sound fun. I suppose the Mass in honour of Bl. Karl is the Austrian equivalent of our Masses in England said in honour of Charles, King and Martyr.
We're not Austrian.
Why American trads have such a devotion to him, I'm not sure. He speaks to us, somehow.

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 am

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by Italios » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:58 am
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:if Iran closes it and tries to prevent Arabs from exporting through it

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by Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:59 am
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Religion has been historically more high status than it is today, whether or not individually women are more religious than men.
US is a bit behind on the trend compared to Europe, but religion is losing, not gaining statius.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:00 pm
yeah exactly.Italios wrote:Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:if Iran closes it and tries to prevent Arabs from exporting through it
why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:01 pm
That's mildly interesting (sincerely) but it doesn't detract from what I was saying.Fahran wrote:Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Religion has been historically more high status than it is today, whether or not individually women are more religious than men.
US is a bit behind on the trend compared to Europe, but religion is losing, not gaining statius.
And women remain more religious than men in the United States, even as religion becomes somewhat less associated with status. The same appears to hold true of Latin America and Europe as well. In terms of claimed adherence to a religion, there doesn't seem to be a single country where men surpass women. In the countries where women fall behind in terms of attending services, it's notable that women's ability to travel and engage in activity beyond the home is often quite limited - with male relatives needing to be present in some places. My point here is that women always seem to have been important as a subsection of the congregation and have usually been less willing to stray.
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by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:03 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:yeah exactly.Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

by Novus America » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:03 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:yeah exactly.Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:04 pm

by Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:05 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:That's mildly interesting (sincerely) but it doesn't detract from what I was saying.
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:women mostly aren’t religious (read: christian) because religion is low status. in islamic or hindu societies where religion is high status, almost all women are religious
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Luminesa » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:06 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:yeah exactly.Italios wrote:why would we though? negative oil prices can't be healthy for the US. we export a lot of oil too, we're going to take loses from this, especially because as of 2019 we're ramping up oil production to fill in venezuela's gap in the market.
If Iran tries to close the strait and cut the price of oil further (or in fact in any situation) US could probably easily force the strait open again.

by Fahran » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:06 pm
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:08 pm
aside from my prior brainfart

by Luminesa » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:09 pm
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:aside from my prior brainfartLuminesa wrote:Would that cause a war? Is there any perceivable way to fix this?
On a general note if Iran "closes the strait of Hormuz" that involves aero-naval forces physically preventing any ships from entering or leaving. The task is then to the US Navy (and whoever else they can get to help them, possibly British, French and Indians) to "open" the strait by pretty much uninstalling the Iranian navy and air force, which wouldn't be too big of a problem.
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