RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Proctopeo]

"I'm With Her" was slightly worse, at least this one rhymes

I dunno, at least that contains a crap attempt at feminism. With vote blue, the slogan itself denies that it represents any values.

Actually, I'd say it's an excellent attempt at feminism.

According to polls, yes.

According to the polls last time, Trump was supposed to lose.

Forgive me for not putting stock int that.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[Kowani]

According to polls, yes.

According to the polls last time, Trump was supposed to lose.

Forgive me for not putting stock int that.

Margin of error.

Every goddamn poll had Hillary and Trump within the Margin of error.
Biden’s up by larger percentages than Hillary was across…every demographic, iirc, and in those same polls.

Also, the media reporting was terrible around the polls, which is related, but the underlying numbers were good.

[South Odreria 2]

I dunno, at least that contains a crap attempt at feminism. With vote blue, the slogan itself denies that it represents any values.

Actually, I'd say it's an excellent attempt at feminism.

Can we compromise and say it's an excellent parody of feminism?

[Hanafuridake]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

[Bear Stearns]

Oh my god.

Own worst enemy.

[Salus Maior]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

[Bear Stearns]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Force of power + enough time for people to think your rule is normal

[Salus Maior]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Force of power + enough time for people to think your rule is normal

That's literally any form of government.

[Bear Stearns]

Was the Kaiserreich really all that bad

[Northern Davincia]

Was the Kaiserreich really all that bad

No.

[South Odreria 2]

Force of power + enough time for people to think your rule is normal

That's literally any form of government.

I think that's the point?

[Salus Maior]

Was the Kaiserreich really all that bad

It'd be better if Prussia weren't the driving nationality.

[Hanafuridake]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

But in that case why not just a presidential system?

[Albrenia]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

Did anyone ever ask God if the kings were the right ones? Many Kings didn't inherit their crowns, and gained them by particularly human means.

[Remaris]

(Question for monarchists) - What do you think confers legitimacy on kings and why are certain bloodlines chosen to rule over others?

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

In a nutshell, this.

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

But in that case why not just a presidential system?

A presidential republic would make no sense in a country with no history of such a system, and besides that presidencies generally do not preserve the symbolic connection between the state and the divine present in traditional monarchies. There are other, practical arguments in favour of hereditary monarchies that aren't about legitimacy per se.

Was the Kaiserreich really all that bad

It'd be better if Prussia weren't the driving nationality.

Hard disagree. No other state besides Prussia could realistically have achieved German unification, other than perhaps Austria; but the Habsburgs' ability to act as an effective leader of the German states was hampered by the fact that most of their own domains were predominantly inhabited by non-Germans and their own interests lay largely outside Germany. Besides, they were Roman Catholics whereas a majority of Germans in that period were Protestant, and in general Protestant populations should not be forced to live under Roman Catholic rulers.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Rate my Western Front

That's at the beginning of 1915 too

[Mostrov]

The most patrician question is which of the Tragedians was best.

That's a difficult question. At the moment, I'm leaning towards Sophocles on the strenth of his extant Theban Cycle or Euripedes on the strength of The Bacchae, Medea, and The Trojan Women. Pathos for days. What's your opinion?

The Poetry of Aeschylus is unmatched in grandeur (and in Greek only by the Iliad), only Oedipus in Coloneus do we see such beauty approached. Euripides is, however, the superior dramatist, for he made the innovation of writing of ἁμαρτία not as merely as a conscious error but as an unconscious one—the introduction of the psychological to drama. The Troades is the supreme example of political commentary, quite unmatched in human history, but it is inferior to his Hecuba.

I have been reading about Sanskrit theatre, and it seems that Greece aside, no other culture ever produced drama. What makes the Greeks unique in this respect?

[Salus Maior]

Divine Providence, and legitimacy according to the cultural traditions of the nation in question.

But in that case why not just a presidential system?

If it's traditional in that country, I don't see why not.

[Salus Maior]

Hard disagree. No other state besides Prussia could realistically have achieved German unification, other than perhaps Austria; but the Habsburgs' ability to act as an effective leader of the German states was hampered by the fact that most of their own domains were predominantly inhabited by non-Germans and their own interests lay largely outside Germany. Besides, they were Roman Catholics whereas a majority of Germans in that period were Protestant, and in general Protestant populations should not be forced to live under Roman Catholic rulers.

But Roman Catholics should be forced to live under Protestant rulers? In particular, Protestants which are hostile to Catholicism?

Seems like a two-faced argument.

Also, daily reminder that the Prussian military institution is partially responsible for how bad the Great War was, and what drove Germany to ruin.

[The Reformed American Republic]

vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo

I hate the politics in this country.

You are far from alone. There is a reason why many don't bother to vote.

[The New California Republic]

I hate the politics in this country.

You are far from alone. There is a reason why many don't bother to vote.

Y'all need more than two major parties, to mix it up a bit.

[Cekoviu]

You are far from alone. There is a reason why many don't bother to vote.

Y'all need more than two major parties, to mix it up a bit.

bring back the whigs!

[Blackdove]

You are far from alone. There is a reason why many don't bother to vote.

Y'all need more than two major parties, to mix it up a bit.

Even the smaller parties in the US are absolutely horrid to be honest.

[The Reformed American Republic]

You are far from alone. There is a reason why many don't bother to vote.

Y'all need more than two major parties, to mix it up a bit.

I have desired a multi party system for years. The duopoly will never allow that to happen. We should maybe shoot for maybe an Article V convention to get rid of first past the post.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Y'all need more than two major parties, to mix it up a bit.

bring back the whigs!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Whig_Party