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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Mon May 25, 2020 9:52 am

San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Prager University Published a Video saying how Texas' Right Wing Economy is now outgrowing California's Left Wing one which has the highest poverty rates in the country. Fahran would be proud.

https://youtu.be/6Svc7GLUqd4

Lol imagine thinking Texas has a right wing economy.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon May 25, 2020 9:54 am

If Dennis Prager was an serbian orthodox priest half of rwdt would be all over his nuts
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon May 25, 2020 9:54 am

San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Prager University Published a Video saying how Texas' Right Wing Economy is now outgrowing California's Left Wing one which has the highest poverty rates in the country. Fahran would be proud.

https://youtu.be/6Svc7GLUqd4

Prager University is a university in the sense that a bottle of Captain Morgan can sail a ship.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon May 25, 2020 9:56 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Prager University Published a Video saying how Texas' Right Wing Economy is now outgrowing California's Left Wing one which has the highest poverty rates in the country. Fahran would be proud.

https://youtu.be/6Svc7GLUqd4

Prager University is a university in the sense that a bottle of Captain Morgan can sail a ship.

Don't slander the captain of the Valdez like that!
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 25, 2020 9:58 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Prager University Published a Video saying how Texas' Right Wing Economy is now outgrowing California's Left Wing one which has the highest poverty rates in the country. Fahran would be proud.

https://youtu.be/6Svc7GLUqd4

Prager University is a university in the sense that a bottle of Captain Morgan can sail a ship.


Prager University is a university in the sense that I, also, am a university.
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon May 25, 2020 10:03 am

Taihei Tengoku wrote:If Dennis Prager was an serbian orthodox priest half of rwdt would be all over his nuts


Maybe he could actually make better theological arguments then than he does in videos now.
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Postby Kowani » Mon May 25, 2020 10:04 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:If Dennis Prager was an serbian orthodox priest half of rwdt would be all over his nuts


Maybe he could actually make better theological arguments then than he does in videos now.

To be fair, making better Theological arguments than Prager is not a major challenge.
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Postby Galloism » Mon May 25, 2020 10:05 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Prager University Published a Video saying how Texas' Right Wing Economy is now outgrowing California's Left Wing one which has the highest poverty rates in the country. Fahran would be proud.

https://youtu.be/6Svc7GLUqd4

Prager University is a university in the sense that a bottle of Captain Morgan can sail a ship.

Challenge accepted.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon May 25, 2020 10:08 am

Fahran wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
RWDTers as monarchs -

UMN - proclaimed the Tsar of Russia because his striking resemblance to Nicholas II made everyone think he's a Romanov, he doesn't want the throne but accepts it reluctantly, preferring to wander around the Russian countryside barefoot talking with peasants. Prisoners are not executed but instead subjected to hours long lectures on Kantian imperatives which is enough to deter even the hardest criminal.

Fahran - she is discovered to be the closest living descendant of David HaMelech and hastily enthroned in Jerusalem as Queen of the Jews, her weird Southern habits of drinking iced tea and riding horses into the desert are regarded as odd habits by her subjects. Over time their opinion of her becomes worse and worse as she insists on people listening to her poetry. When they don't, she brings out the army to make them. After insisting that her top generals all follow her Instagram account or she'll fire them, she's overthrown and exiled.

Hana - is enthroned as maharaja of the united Indochinese federation, the sangha celebrates her coronation and proclaims her dhammaraja, with her building numerous statues and wats. Over time their enthusiasm wanes into her reign because of her obviously heretical ideas and penchant for deva worship. She is tied into a bag and thrown into a river to avoid spilling royal blood, which would not have happened had she not fired everyone who was swole for being "unaesthetic." because she's a Millennial, her cat is her designated heir, and his reign is remembered as a golden age.

Washington Resistance Army - declared king over one of the many city-states after the United States collapses into infighting, he makes Hellenic paganism the state religion and consecrates the city to Hephaestus. Because of all the weapons that he hoarded before the collapse, the city is extremely militarized and manages to conquer vast territories which were previously occupied by gun control advocates. The empire collapses after his death because of infighting by his generals.

East Marches - manages to become regent of the Neo-Ottoman Empire after his husband the sultan's convenient death. His mercantile policies and connections with Anglo wallets expands the treasury of the Empire which is promptly funneled into the vaporwave industry. He is called TEM the Greek after death.

Salus - proclaims himself Emperor of New Zealand and is consecrated by the pope after the British royal family are arrested for Epstein's degeneracy. He tries to model his reign on the Hapsburgs but the political climate of the country leads to turmoil and it fractures into different polities after death.

Tfw your female Jewish Nero.


If you believe certain legends in the Talmud, then you would just be female Nero.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 25, 2020 10:08 am

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Joohan wrote:
But they do though...

Holodomor is acceptable - but white genocide is woke territory.

I didn't say like, I said sympathize. If you haven't at least considered joining a hyper-masculine militant death cult, hell bent on destroying feminine society by forcibly tedpilling banks and starbucks with plastic explosive - then here's your pussy hut, you'll need it at your new address.

Can’t we get some female superiority right wing amazon stuff going?

sign me the FUCK up
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Postby Novus America » Mon May 25, 2020 10:10 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:The justification is they don’t deserve to live.

That's not how crime & punishment ought to work. If your punishment is more severe than the crime, you are a barbaric sadist.


Not necessarily. You are assuming a strictly retributive model of criminal justice.
Whereas a primarily support the death penalty (with safeguards obviously) as a form of incapacitation over retribution.
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Postby Holy Roman Empires2 » Mon May 25, 2020 10:14 am

Novus America wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:That's not how crime & punishment ought to work. If your punishment is more severe than the crime, you are a barbaric sadist.


Not necessarily. You are assuming a strictly retributive model of criminal justice.
Whereas a primarily support the death penalty (with safeguards obviously) as a form of incapacitation over retribution.

The punishment much fit the crime. Being strict doesnt mean being a sadist. An eye for an eye, not a head for an eye.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon May 25, 2020 10:17 am

Cekoviu wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Can’t we get some female superiority right wing amazon stuff going?

sign me the FUCK up


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Woke: reading Bachofen about how bands of warlike maidens killed men and founded matriarchal societies.
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Postby Novus America » Mon May 25, 2020 10:29 am

Holy Roman Empires2 wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Not necessarily. You are assuming a strictly retributive model of criminal justice.
Whereas a primarily support the death penalty (with safeguards obviously) as a form of incapacitation over retribution.

The punishment much fit the crime. Being strict doesnt mean being a sadist. An eye for an eye, not a head for an eye.


It is more a cost benefit analysis. Sure a punishment where the punishment is disproportionate to what it achieves just becomes sadistic. But why assume it only seeks to achieve retribution?

But besides a huge amount of subjectivity in measuring the costs and benefits, retribution is not the only purpose or model of criminal justice.

Eye for an eye retribution is an obsolete and not very good model.

You are still assume a strictly retributive model. What is the purpose of the punishment?
If retribution sure, but if not maybe not.

The real purpose of the death penalty should be incapacitation over retribution, changing the calculation.

If the person is dangerous to incarcerate (say attacking guards or other prisoners or running criminal operations from prison) or likely to commit more serious crimes after release, the death penalty there can be used simply to prevent them from committing more crimes, not simply retribution.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon May 25, 2020 10:40 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote: we can start by hanging child sex criminals :)

The harshest justifiable crime & punishment philosophy is "an eye for an eye" so there is no justification for the death penalty for any crime other than first degree murder.

There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon May 25, 2020 10:42 am

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:The harshest justifiable crime & punishment philosophy is "an eye for an eye" so there is no justification for the death penalty for any crime other than first degree murder.

There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 25, 2020 10:42 am

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:The harshest justifiable crime & punishment philosophy is "an eye for an eye" so there is no justification for the death penalty for any crime other than first degree murder.

There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

Blasphemy is absolutely not worse than murder wtf
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Postby Galloism » Mon May 25, 2020 10:44 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

Blasphemy is absolutely not worse than murder wtf

Tbh, anything you can be threatened into submitting to under threat of being murdered is not as bad as the murder. Otherwise, you’d choose to take the murder instead.
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Postby Dylar » Mon May 25, 2020 10:45 am

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.

Saying mean things about God isn't blasphemy.
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Postby Kowani » Mon May 25, 2020 10:48 am

Dylar wrote:
Kowani wrote:You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.

Saying mean things about God isn't blasphemy.

The functional difference between the two is what exactly?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 25, 2020 11:19 am

Kowani wrote:
Diopolis wrote:There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.


You run into a lot of such problems with an omni-everything deity tbh. It makes less sense the more you think about it.
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Postby Sildorian Empire » Mon May 25, 2020 11:28 am

Diopolis wrote:There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

"Unjustifiable" Slavery? Slavery is by definition unjustifiable. Also lmao "blasphemy is worse than murder"
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon May 25, 2020 11:30 am

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:The harshest justifiable crime & punishment philosophy is "an eye for an eye" so there is no justification for the death penalty for any crime other than first degree murder.

There are quite a few crimes worse than murder. Rape, blasphemy, treason, severe child abuse, unjustifiable enslavement, certain kinds of mutilations, etc.

Blasphemy is not worse than murder. It is just an opinion you do not like.
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Postby Kowani » Mon May 25, 2020 11:37 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kowani wrote:You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.


You run into a lot of such problems with an omni-everything deity tbh. It makes less sense the more you think about it.

The many contradictions in an omni-everything deity are hard to explain away...

Sildorian Empire wrote:
Kowani wrote:You’d think an all forgiving, all powerful god wouldn’t be bothered by people saying mean things about him.

"Unjustifiable" Slavery? Slavery is by definition unjustifiable. Also lmao "blasphemy is worse than murder"

Why did you quote me...?
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Postby Sildorian Empire » Mon May 25, 2020 11:39 am

Kowani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You run into a lot of such problems with an omni-everything deity tbh. It makes less sense the more you think about it.

The many contradictions in an omni-everything deity are hard to explain away...

Sildorian Empire wrote:"Unjustifiable" Slavery? Slavery is by definition unjustifiable. Also lmao "blasphemy is worse than murder"

Why did you quote me...?
Oh right, my bad. I meant to quote Dio.
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Overview || Archon | Military | Species
Daily News: IVC Lothal enters battle with new Xadian Flagship the Dreadnought Ronthawa in Galataea. Lothal had destroyed the 3 previous Xadian flagships in battle. | Mugeya fails to crack Wrothgar Prime, forced to retreat to unknown location in Sildorian Space by the Wrothgar Fleet. IVC Pride II to be rerouted to aid in finding and potentially capturing the hostile World Cracker. | New strain of the Frontline Pox breaks out in Nodex Prime, particularly affects the Xuni thralls. Planetary government passes edict to cull Xuni population to fight the disease before it can affect Silda population.

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