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Which alcoholic beverage is the most right-wing?

Wine (Blood and Body?)
23
21%
Beer
22
21%
Vodka
6
6%
Mead
12
11%
Whiskey/Whisky
18
17%
Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)
9
8%
Rakı (option included specifically for Marches)
4
4%
Seltzers/Hard Ciders (because the Claw is the LAW)
5
5%
Gin
4
4%
Other (Rum/Brandy/Cognac/Tequila)
4
4%
 
Total votes : 107

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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:54 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Leggings should be underwear, and stay that way.
Not normal out and about clothes.

hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Learn to make skirts, then.
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South Odreria 2
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I gave up on effortposts because no matter how many you did and no matter how many sources you used nobody would be open to changing their opinions and beliefs and it was a waste of time. I'll still talk seriously about a topic if I find it engaging enough but beyond that it's just not really worth the time investment when you can largely make your point in a much shorter post.

I mean, your sigged effortposts convinced me to be pro gun rights, though I was already soft on the issue
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:55 pm

Diopolis wrote:Learn to make skirts, then.

Why do your solutions to problems always involve sending women sewing kits?

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Postby Italios » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:55 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:On the contrary, Stalin should be listened to about LGBTQIABC types and very little else.

stalin wrote this poem
The pinkish bud has opened,
Rushing to the pale-blue violet
And, stirred by a light breeze,
The lily of the valley has bent over the grass.

he's definitely a closet homosexual so you may want to rethink that move there

didn't he have a 21 year old age gap with one of his wives?

in before fahran harps on about how poetry can be a masculine hobby
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:55 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:On the contrary, Stalin should be listened to about LGBTQIABC types and very little else.

stalin wrote this poem
The pinkish bud has opened,
Rushing to the pale-blue violet
And, stirred by a light breeze,
The lily of the valley has bent over the grass.

he's definitely a closet homosexual so you may want to rethink that move there

Add his opinions on art to things he should be listened to.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:56 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Diopolis wrote:When you go far enough left, the whole world is right.

I love how that only works for the left and right wingers are always moderate.

^this
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Leggings should be underwear, and stay that way.
Not normal out and about clothes.

hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Nothing wrong with leggings but I doubt they’re actually cheaper considering they wear out a lot faster than pants
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Alternately, shop in places with good sales, and you can get good skirts, pants, and dresses cheap.

true, but those are less reliably available
Diopolis wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Learn to make skirts, then.

i'm very bad at sewing (actually, that's not true, my sewing machine is very bad at sewing, but still)
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Cisairse
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:57 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
neoliberals aren't "the left" they're right-wing




I agree. However, you must realize that words change all the time. People transform concepts constantly , and this applies perfectly to what is and what isn't left-wing. In a way, I'm saying the Neo-liberals have hijacked leftism as a concept, it had reassignment surgery and changed its behaviors to fit something else( a greater agenda).

No, rightists started slandering neoliberals as leftists when they aren't. Case in point, you just did it.
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

I officially endorse Fivey Fox for president of the United States.

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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Learn to make skirts, then.

Why do your solutions to problems always involve sending women sewing kits?

The fashion industry is degenerate. It furthers globalization, immodesty, homosexuality, and all capitalist excesses.
On the other hand, clothes being made in the home by women is properly right wing and virtuous.
Texas nationalist, right-wing technocrat, radical social conservative, post-liberal.

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Italios wrote:in before fahran harps on about how poetry can be a masculine hobby

Don't make me summon Mostrov to the thread.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Italios wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:stalin wrote this poem

he's definitely a closet homosexual so you may want to rethink that move there

didn't he have a 21 year old age gap with one of his wives?

in before fahran harps on about how poetry can be a masculine hobby

his second wife was like 13 years younger than him iirc

tbf poetry can be masculine, it's just that stalin's particular brand definitely wasn't
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Kowani wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Your absolutely right, I get angry time when fellow leftist talk about their identity politics and their simplistic nonsense . It is always funny to see MLs wave the pride flag,and they get angry every time when I show them that their libertine behaviors are revisionist. Stalin would've denounce them.

Almost as if Stalin was a traitor to the revolution and a bloody butcher whose opinions on LGBT+ people should be listened to about as the old French Army on uniform colors. None.



This sounds good, in my opinion. When a pseudo-revolutionary says that the "revolution was betrayed", that means that the revolution was a success. Real communism hasn't happen in your opinion. It was corrupted, and it would only be a utopia of Freedom , peace and "equality( disgusting nonsense in the context of idealist) if it went your way.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:That’s really not true.

Why talk about right and left when there is simply right or wrong? :p

Well, yes, there is my opinion (right) and everyone else (wrong).

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I gave up on effortposts because no matter how many you did and no matter how many sources you used nobody would be open to changing their opinions and beliefs and it was a waste of time. I'll still talk seriously about a topic if I find it engaging enough but beyond that it's just not really worth the time investment when you can largely make your point in a much shorter post.

I mean, your sigged effortposts convinced me to be pro gun rights, though I was already soft on the issue

Sometimes, they can actually work.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Why do your solutions to problems always involve sending women sewing kits?

The fashion industry is degenerate. It furthers globalization, immodesty, homosexuality, and all capitalist excesses.
On the other hand, clothes being made in the home by women is properly right wing and virtuous.

i'm going to regret asking this but how does the fashion industry further homosexuality
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Why do your solutions to problems always involve sending women sewing kits?

The fashion industry is degenerate. It furthers globalization, immodesty, homosexuality, and all capitalist excesses.
On the other hand, clothes being made in the home by women is properly right wing and virtuous.

I agree that making skirts is more frugal, but I need to get the motivation to sew. Plus I just bought a great skirt for like a fourth of its market price, so I'm good!
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faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:00 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:hard disagree. leggings are the best solution for bottoms if you want to remain warm, look decent, and be comfortable (unless you are doing hard physical labor). they are also often cheaper than full p*nts or dresses/long skirts, which is important if you are frugal and/or poor

Nothing wrong with leggings but I doubt they’re actually cheaper considering they wear out a lot faster than pants

depends on the leggings. i've got these ones that are insulated and thicker than usual which were pretty cheap and they are totally intact despite lots of use (the cheaply-made ones do fall apart quicker though)
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:01 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Communal concils wrote:


I agree. However, you must realize that words change all the time. People transform concepts constantly , and this applies perfectly to what is and what isn't left-wing. In a way, I'm saying the Neo-liberals have hijacked leftism as a concept, it had reassignment surgery and changed its behaviors to fit something else( a greater agenda).

No, rightists started slandering neoliberals as leftists when they aren't. Case in point, you just did it.



no I didn't, I simply stated that Leftism has been change. If it change, then its definition must have been transformed into something else.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:01 pm

I’m pretty sure purchasing modest clothing incentivizes manufactures to produce more immodest sexualized clothing.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:02 pm

Italios wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Scotch (option included for Questers and old people)

wow

my desk when I was living alone tho

you okay

im just lokoing at my dropbox from 2015/16 and loling

I bought this on the day that charlie hebdo attack happened, to "show solidarity with the french people" (Deep cringe - altho ricard is amazing)

and things have been much worse in the past

so yeah im ok I guess. Im quite drunk rn.
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There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Nothing wrong with leggings but I doubt they’re actually cheaper considering they wear out a lot faster than pants

depends on the leggings. i've got these ones that are insulated and thicker than usual which were pretty cheap and they are totally intact despite lots of use (the cheaply-made ones do fall apart quicker though)

Not leggings, but I have wool tights that are far more cozy than normal tights, they're insulated and go with everything.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:03 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:I’m pretty sure purchasing modest clothing incentivizes manufactures to produce more immodest sexualized clothing.

That would depend I guess on the brand and maker. Vintage clothing is coming back into style in a lot of places.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:03 pm

Cekoviu wrote:tbf poetry can be masculine, it's just that stalin's particular brand definitely wasn't

Descriptions of nature that evoke feelings of fragility and ephemerality speak to that in us which is temporal and which perceives beauty and sadness in sunsets or in the wilting of rose petals.

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:03 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Cisairse wrote:No, rightists started slandering neoliberals as leftists when they aren't. Case in point, you just did it.



no I didn't, I simply stated that Leftism has been change. If it change, then its definition must have been transformed into something else.

Its definition has only been "transformed" by rightists who mischaracterize what leftism is.
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

I officially endorse Fivey Fox for president of the United States.

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Communal concils
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Postby Communal concils » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Fahran wrote:Why do your solutions to problems always involve sending women sewing kits?

The fashion industry is degenerate. It furthers globalization, immodesty, homosexuality, and all capitalist excesses.
On the other hand, clothes being made in the home by women is properly right wing and virtuous.



I completely agree with you on the fashion industry, we might as well follow the path of Jean Baudrillard and Guy debord and say that Consumerism in general is a horrible concept that enslaves mankind under pointless pleasure. it is a hyper-totalitarian system hidden by a simulacrum of degeneracy.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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